D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Sunday 05 October 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>> participation is has done nothing to sway me, and, frankly, quite a lot to
>> convince me that I'm wasting my time bothering to talk to you at all.
> 
> Although that sense of irritation is mitigated by the realization that I just 
> got a message that was sent on Thursday, and it's Saturday night.
> 
> SourceForge is having spasms again, and their track record for this kind of 
> things sucks.  That much is definitely an obstacle for everyone.

No kidding. Several days after managing to cram a subscription through, 
I finally got the reply with my password. Sigh.

It still doesn't help that none of the messages that *should* be in the 
moderation queue have shown up though. From my perspective, that says 
that legitimate moderated traffic isn't getting through. And I still say 
it doesn't help that gmane mail seems to have gone to /dev/null (else I 
should have seen at least the moderation bounce, and I didn't).

Perhaps one person's inconvenience isn't worth much overall... but then, 
if every potential newcomer is subject to enough inconvenience to drive 
them away (as I nearly was), well, then you don't get any newcomers. 
Eventually that can kill a project. Of course, so can spam, but maybe 
that means the list is the real problem (see below).

I'm using smtp again to send this; I don't trust gmane for this list.

> The demand that posters be subscribed, not so much.  Unless you really want 
> everyone who does subscribe to be inundated with penis enlarging Nigerian 
> breast enhancement home refinance phishing scams.

Maybe try a different list provider? Plenty of KDE lists seem to be 
non-moderated, and yet aren't innundated with spam. At least a list 
provider that isn't so unfriendly to subscribing :-/.

-- 
Matthew
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