Peter's paper can be downloaded from
http://www.hipaasummit.com/pastwest2/agenda/index.html

Rachel Foerster
Principal
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
Professionals in EDI & Electronic Commerce
39432 North Avenue
Beach Park, IL 60099
Phone: 847-872-8070
Fax: 847-872-6860
http:/www.rfa-edi.com


-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:32 AM
To: WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing
Subject: Re: Are only 15 characters in the ISA receiver ID enough?


Dave:

I took a look at my insurance card for Anthem Community Choice, and
besides my ID no. and group name, the BC/BS plan code of 332/834 (Inst.
vs. Professional) appears on the front.  There're also the usual phone
numbers, and the claim submission mailing address.  So how does a
provider (today) know how to go from the respective Blue Cross/Blue
Shield plan no. to an EDI Identifier?

But I certainly hope *NOT* that "the best identifier of all for
discovering the CPP is that contact address or phone number..."  I want
the payer or plan EDI identifier to appear directly on the insurance
card - in order that things can be automated (without phone calls and
paper).

Speaking of Plans, Peter Barry presented a paper on Identifiers at the
HIPAA Summit West in San Francisco last month.  Maybe he can be
persuaded to share the paper with the group.  But anyway, the impression
I came away with is that the National Plan ID will appear on the
patient's Health Identification Card - and by using the National Plan ID
as a key, you can access the National Plan ID database whence you're
cross linked to the entities processing those plans (e.g., payers,
employers, Third party administrators).  If those cross links were to
CPPs, then the National Plan ID database itself would supplant any need
for a separate CPP Registry for payers.

However, I wouldn't bet the farm on the possibility there would be any
government sponsored databases available and running in time for
H-day! - even though the HIPAA Funding proposal in the Bush Budget
includes "$34.5 million to implement a system to assign unique
identifiers for providers and health plans."

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
+1 (614) 487-0320

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