On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Xu Xiaohu <x...@huawei.com> wrote:
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>> -----邮件原件-----
>> 发件人: rrg-boun...@irtf.org [mailto:rrg-boun...@irtf.org] 代表 Christopher
>> Morrow
>> 发送时间: 2010年2月3日 11:00
>> 收件人: Tony Li
>> 抄送: RRG; Robin Whittle
>> 主题: Re: [rrg] SEAL critique, PMTUD, RFC4821 = vapourware
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Tony Li <tony...@tony.li> wrote:
>> > Robin Whittle wrote:
>> >
>> >>                 I argue against Fred Templin's position that
>> >>                 ordinary RFC1191 DF=1 Path MTU Discovery (and
>> >>                 therefore its RFC1981 IPv6 equivalent) is "busted".
>> >>
>> >>                 Where is the evidence that networks filtering out
>> >>                 PTB (Packet Too Big) messages is a significant
>> >>                 problem?
>> >
>> >
>> > This happens.  Consult some operator folks, privately and quietly.  Many
>> > enterprises blocked all inbound ICMP when DDoS attacks started happening.
>>
>> yes, not just for 'dos attack' problems but because often people don't
>> understand what ICMP is there for :( the dreaded 'people can ping
>> you!!' apparently == 'deny icmp any any'
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> Yes, based on the above practice, some router vendors even give up the 
> support for PMTUD in their router OSes.

that seems like a VERY BAD PLAN, being dumb and turning a knob off is
one thing, removing the knob is entirely different (and far worse).

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> Xiaohu
>
>> PMTUD is horrendously supported :(
>>
>> -chris
>> (operatorish guy)
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