On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Tony Li wrote:

> 
> 
> I agree, but as you correctly point out, SIDR is an engineering solution.  If 
> you dislike that particular solution, you're of course free to propose 
> others. However, the correct forum for engineering solutions is the IETF.  

I was hoping for some research and fresh thinking related to 
rate+state+autonomous operations &security in inter-domain routing, hence my 
message here.  I don't have a solution envisaged, I just know what I'm seeing 
in current work is err.., going to present some challenges.

I was hoping for "architectural alternatives, research and experimentation in 
secure routing architectures and algorithms being encouraged, with an aim to 
understand whether new directions can provide effective solutions, to work out 
candidate designs as necessary for a complete solution, and to fully understand 
both the gains and the tradeoffs that the new solutions may bring." (some of 
that text may sound familiar :-)

As a side benefit, whether the routed protocol changes or not, using security 
as the fulcrum may well help foster broader consideration of alternative routed 
protocols...

Else -- some work into scalable *static* inter-domain routing techniques and 
solutions might be a worthwhile endeavor *8^/

If that's not within RRG scope then I suppose I understand how we arrived where 
we currently are...

-danny




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