Balaji,

If TCAM is your best example, you are not making a convincing
argument.  See the prior response.

Curtis


In message <CAHF4apPa++YH-B4f-cJdY62Vt-qUF=ja_on2n6t8xzuamto...@mail.gmail.com>
Balaji venkat Venkataswami writes:
 
> Dear Eric,
>  
> You had written...
>  
> If yes...
>  - please provide concrete examples of how this actually works.  In my
> experience the power draw by a router or switch is pretty constant, more
> driven by the *existence* of links (because links -> linecards -> power
> draw) than by the *traffic* on those links.
>  
> If not, what do you hope to accomplish by avoiding higher-power nodes?
>  
> <balajivenkat> Our answer to the above question is this. We are rephrasing
> the question as "Can you send more traffic through low power consuming
> nodes ?". Therefore If yes does not come into the picture.
>  
> The end objective slowly the traffic will migrate to the low power nodes
> and the high power consuming nodes can be dismantled.
>  
> The other mail for TCAM that I had sent will deal with answer to your
> problem.
>  
>  
> thanks and regards,
> balaji venkat
>  
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Balaji venkat Venkataswami <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>  
> > Dear Eric,
> >
> > Please take a look at the tcam-efficiency draft that we have published.
> >
> > The URL to the draft is
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-panet-tcam-power-efficiency-00
> >
> > A follow up draft that defines TCAM efficiency in terms of a metric is
> > also outlined in...
> >
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-panet-tcam-power-ratio-02
> >
> > With the help of the above schemes and additional work that is in progress
> > we intend to reduce the
> > power footprint of a device/router/switch/chassis such that important
> > power guzzling components of
> > the router are optimized.
> >
> > In summary, the above 2 drafts coupled with the protocol schemes will we
> > feel result in better power
> > saving than what we have today. So essentially optimizing the power
> > consumed within a device
> > coupled with using protocol schemes between devices will result in saving
> > power.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > thanks and regards,
> > balaji venkat
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Eric Osborne (eosborne) <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> [size trimmed]
> >>
> >> OK, so you want to avoid nodes which draw more power.
> >> Are you assuming that minimizing the traffic across a node also minimizes
> >> the power that node draws?
> >>
> >> If yes:
> >>  - please provide concrete examples of how this actually works.  In my
> >> experience the power draw by a router or switch is pretty constant, more
> >> driven by the *existence* of links (because links -> linecards -> power
> >> draw) than by the *traffic* on those links.
> >>
> >> If not, what do you hope to accomplish by avoiding higher-power nodes?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> eric
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Balaji venkat Venkataswami [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:59 AM
> >> > To: Eric Osborne (eosborne)
> >> > Cc: Shankar Raman; [email protected]; [email protected]
> >> > Subject: Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested from routing
> >> > community
> >> >
> >> > Dear Eric,
> >> >
> >> > We seem to be discussing at cross purposes.
> >> >
> >> > The root of our position is not what you have stated. We do not say if
> >> you dont
> >> > use a link you consume less power. We are not for avoiding links but we
> >> are for
> >> > avoiding nodes/routers/switches which have a large power footprint. The
> >> > essence of using link metrics is to avoid nodes with larger power
> >> footprints.
> >> > That is how SPF or CSPF works. When it computes a low power path it
> >> avoids
> >> > nodes and also links that lead to that node which has a larger power
> >> footprint.
> >> > So the premise that we are just avoiding links is WRONG.
> >> >
> >> > For #1 question, we dont even talk about the power the link draws. We
> >> talk
> >> > about the power footprint of the node that it is connected to.
> >> >
> >> > For #2 question, again we state that your premise of avoiding links in
> >> your
> >> > example is a non-starter for us.
> >> >
> >> > thanks and regards,
> >> > balaji venkat
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