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Irrespectively Yours,

John

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Balaji venkat Venkataswami
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:22 AM
To: Eric Osborne (eosborne)
Cc: Shankar Raman; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested from routing community

Dear Eric,

Please take a look at the tcam-efficiency draft that we have published.

The URL to the draft is 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-panet-tcam-power-efficiency-00

A follow up draft that defines TCAM efficiency in terms of a metric is also 
outlined in...

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-panet-tcam-power-ratio-02

With the help of the above schemes and additional work that is in progress we 
intend to reduce the
power footprint of a device/router/switch/chassis such that important power 
guzzling components of
the router are optimized.

In summary, the above 2 drafts coupled with the protocol schemes will we feel 
result in better power
saving than what we have today. So essentially optimizing the power consumed 
within a device
coupled with using protocol schemes between devices will result in saving power.

Hope this helps.

thanks and regards,
balaji venkat

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Eric Osborne (eosborne) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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OK, so you want to avoid nodes which draw more power.
Are you assuming that minimizing the traffic across a node also minimizes the 
power that node draws?

If yes:
 - please provide concrete examples of how this actually works.  In my 
experience the power draw by a router or switch is pretty constant, more driven 
by the *existence* of links (because links -> linecards -> power draw) than by 
the *traffic* on those links.

If not, what do you hope to accomplish by avoiding higher-power nodes?




eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Balaji venkat Venkataswami 
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:59 AM
> To: Eric Osborne (eosborne)
> Cc: Shankar Raman; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested from routing
> community
>
> Dear Eric,
>
> We seem to be discussing at cross purposes.
>
> The root of our position is not what you have stated. We do not say if you 
> dont
> use a link you consume less power. We are not for avoiding links but we are 
> for
> avoiding nodes/routers/switches which have a large power footprint. The
> essence of using link metrics is to avoid nodes with larger power footprints.
> That is how SPF or CSPF works. When it computes a low power path it avoids
> nodes and also links that lead to that node which has a larger power 
> footprint.
> So the premise that we are just avoiding links is WRONG.
>
> For #1 question, we dont even talk about the power the link draws. We talk
> about the power footprint of the node that it is connected to.
>
> For #2 question, again we state that your premise of avoiding links in your
> example is a non-starter for us.
>
> thanks and regards,
> balaji venkat
>

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