Hi Tony and Curtis,

Let me retrospect some history to clear up the chaos floating around. 

On Feb 4th, I organized a conference call among a dozen of guys (from 
operators, vendors and Universities) who are interested in PANET, in order to 
prepare for a side meeting in IETF. There was a rough consensus that a 
side-meeting is a good way to call for interest, coordination and contribution 
to PANET. However, requests was _prematurely_ sent out afterwards, without 
including all the effort from the conference attendees. I hope this email can 
get us back on track. So I change its title.

I believe the most efficient way for us is to play the game according to the 
rule of IETF/IRTF. Therefore, we are trying to find a place to accommodate the 
side-meeting. We should not delve into discussion of specific solutions before 
we make clear the problem scope. A charter should be published, which will help 
us figure out what is the problem we are trying to solve. Before that, let me 
add some pointers of drafts from my side. I believe these drafts can also help 
people to figure out the scope of PANET. 
Power-Aware Networks (PANET): Problem Statement, 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-panet-problem-statement/
Use Cases for Power-Aware Networks, 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-panet-use-cases/
Requirements for Power Aware Network, 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-panet-requirement/

On the 84th IETF rtgwg f2f meeting, there were two presentations relevant to 
greening. I also list them as follows FYI. 
A Framework and Requirements for Energy Aware Control Planes, 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-00, [slides] 
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-3.pptx
Power-aware Routing and Traffic Engineering: Requirements, Approaches, and 
Issues, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-greennet/, [slides] 
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-4.pptx

Thanks,
Mingui Zhang
Huawei Technologies


>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>Tony Li
>Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:02 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Cc: Shankar Raman M J; [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested from routing
>community
>
>
>On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Curtis Villamizar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't think this is even material ready for IRTF consideration, but
>> that is up to Tony and IRTF to decide.
>
>
>As always, the IRTF does not require well-formed ideas as a pre-requisite for
>starting work.  Instead, there needs to be a clear problem statement (i.e., a
>charter) and a sufficient group of serious researchers who are committed to
>following through in a committed manner.
>
>Note that it is, by definition, research.  It is expected to have a non-trivial
>likelihood of failure.
>
>Regards,
>Tony
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