No, there won't be a side meeting in Orlando. However, we secured more time (than the regular 90 min) for rtgwg so that we can have a discussion there.
Alia and I will send out more details (objectives, ground rules, etc.) soon. Thanks! Alvaro. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:53 AM, "Eric Osborne (eosborne)" <[email protected]> wrote: > Will this side meeting be in Orlando? I'm sceptical of some of the current > approaches but am very interested in where they might go. > > > > > > eric > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Mingui Zhang >> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 2:10 AM >> To: Tony Li; [email protected] >> Cc: Susan Hares; [email protected] >> Subject: PANET side-meeting >> >> Hi Tony and Curtis, >> >> Let me retrospect some history to clear up the chaos floating around. >> >> On Feb 4th, I organized a conference call among a dozen of guys (from >> operators, vendors and Universities) who are interested in PANET, in order to >> prepare for a side meeting in IETF. There was a rough consensus that a side- >> meeting is a good way to call for interest, coordination and contribution to >> PANET. However, requests was _prematurely_ sent out afterwards, without >> including all the effort from the conference attendees. I hope this email >> can get >> us back on track. So I change its title. >> >> I believe the most efficient way for us is to play the game according to the >> rule >> of IETF/IRTF. Therefore, we are trying to find a place to accommodate the >> side- >> meeting. We should not delve into discussion of specific solutions before we >> make clear the problem scope. A charter should be published, which will help >> us figure out what is the problem we are trying to solve. Before that, let me >> add some pointers of drafts from my side. I believe these drafts can also >> help >> people to figure out the scope of PANET. >> Power-Aware Networks (PANET): Problem Statement, >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-panet-problem-statement/ >> Use Cases for Power-Aware Networks, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft- >> zhang-panet-use-cases/ >> Requirements for Power Aware Network, >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-panet-requirement/ >> >> On the 84th IETF rtgwg f2f meeting, there were two presentations relevant to >> greening. I also list them as follows FYI. >> A Framework and Requirements for Energy Aware Control Planes, >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-00, [slides] >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-3.pptx >> Power-aware Routing and Traffic Engineering: Requirements, Approaches, and >> Issues, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-greennet/, [slides] >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-4.pptx >> >> Thanks, >> Mingui Zhang >> Huawei Technologies >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Tony Li >>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:02 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: Shankar Raman M J; [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested from routing >>> community >>> >>> >>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Curtis Villamizar <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think this is even material ready for IRTF consideration, but >>>> that is up to Tony and IRTF to decide. >>> >>> >>> As always, the IRTF does not require well-formed ideas as a >>> pre-requisite for starting work. Instead, there needs to be a clear >>> problem statement (i.e., a >>> charter) and a sufficient group of serious researchers who are >>> committed to following through in a committed manner. >>> >>> Note that it is, by definition, research. It is expected to have a >>> non-trivial likelihood of failure. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Tony >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rtgwg mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg >> _______________________________________________ >> rtgwg mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg
