Yes. I was stating a sort of worst-case scenario, where no contract exists, and 
thus the defaults are for the people writing the code to own it -- lock, stock 
and barrel. A good IP lawyer (not just your general counsel) is an important 
place to start.

Walter

On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:53 PM, tamouse mailing lists wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Walter Lee Davis <wa...@wdstudio.com> wrote:
> Absent any agreement to the contrary, "the act of creation defines a 
> copyright with the author ... no registration is needed for this right to be 
> in place ... rights can only be transferred or licensed deliberately ... any 
> rights not explicitly licensed or transferred remain with the author". (Loose 
> paraphrase of the Copyright Action of 1976.)
> 
> 
> Quite so, the author being the agency in the OP's case. Depending on how a 
> contract is written, however, this may have been a "work for hire" situation, 
> in which case the OP's company is the copyright owner. It's tricky, and 
> obviously there is *lots* we don't know. Still stand by the advice of OP to 
> seek legal advice immediately. (Which I know you were not discounting, 
> Walter.)
> 
>  
> Walter
> 
> On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:41 PM, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
> 
> > I just want to caution the OP. You may not own the code. It depends upon 
> > who retains copyright, and licensing, etc. If you have paid the agency for 
> > their work, which you should do if you have a contract, you *may* have a 
> > right to the source code, or you may not, again, depending on your 
> > contract. Just taking the code by copying it off your server could very 
> > well be a breech of contract. You should consult an IP lawyer immediately.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Hassan Schroeder 
> > <hassan.schroe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:59 AM,  <sally.skidm...@conceptresourcing.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We are having issues with our currentl web agency who have built our 
> > > website
> >
> > Have you chosen a new agency yet? Because it sounds like you
> > need technical guidance *and* hands-on assistance at this point
> > to deal with determining and securing what's on your server.
> >
> > Your new agency would be the best ones to provide that.
> >
> > Good luck,
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