On 3 sep, 18:08, Rick <[email protected]> wrote:
> My point in bringing in C was that the tools you choose are those that
> can do the job.  If you have a real time requirement (something with
> msecs response) you won't be happy with interpreted code exchanging
> messages via email.  However, if what you've been given is more on the
> order of "use Ruby on Rails and make this as fast as possible" then
> you can certainly get the job done.

What I was given was:
- I'd like you to develop an app in PHP
- When x happens, an e-mail needs to be sent out as fast as possible
and every millisecond counts.

At that moment I mentioned Rails because I had no clue on what this
app needed to do and I just love Rails and want to limit the time I
spend coding PHP scripts. However, now I know the details, I think it
might be important to look into other programming languages and/or
frameworks. Of course, cost is an issue and it's an application for
which I could probably have a v0.1 ready in under 20 hours. If I need
to learn a new language, though, I might be taking alot longer. I
know, that's his problem, but I want to offer a set of possibilities
and it's for him to decide what's most important.

>
> The real tradeoff here is that to achieve real speed you must
> invariably give up flexibility.  Even though you could write a hard
> drive controller in Ruby I doubt you would be satisfied with the
> result.
>
> I would recommend that you spend some time defining what you are
> trying to do and get requirements set for the areas of your
> application in which performance is critical.  You should have real
> numbers here - or agreement with your user that "as fast as possible"
> is adequate.

The numbers aren't disclosed. We will need to develop the application,
cross our fingers and hope it's fast enough. It could easily be that
it's not possible and our e-mail messages arrive too late every time.
That's why I need to be sure that what we develop is the best we can
come up with within the budget. If C is the way to go, I will offer
that possibility. However, I'm quite sure I will need twice as long in
C and might have less time left for fine-tuning.

>
> Take a look at SNMP as a mechanism for collecting data from remote
> systems - you might look at MRTG for example.  Quite often you can
> partition the time sensitive portion out from the reporting portion.
> You could, for example, build status logs to report out when all is
> running in a pre-defined "good" way and make a nice web view that's
> driven from the logs.  You obviously need to develop a strategy for
> reporting and responding to the alert and alarm states that populate
> the "not good" space.  This is the place where time can be critical.

What you're saying might be very important. I know the kind of
information I'm looking for, so if I can assign the highest priority
to the incoming data that contains this information, that could help.
The third time-critical application will actually be designed so that
when the time-critical stuff comes up, it drops everything it does and
sends out the e-mail.

>
> So go for it - sounds like fun.

At least it's very interesting! It will be fun when I figure it out, -
if- I figure it out ;)
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