My best guess and a heavy dose of speculation for rails 3 rc1 1. Bundler needs to go to rc1 - maybe in a few days with no bugs - maybe in a couple weeks with lots of bugs. That may be all - but.....if that isn't the last issue here are next couple of issues that seem important. 2. ActiveRecord is about half as fast as it was in rails 2.3.5 - it won't remain that way. There is a lot of stuff and junk that has to be cleared out of it - it will probably be a couple of weeks before jose valim and possibly wycats turn their attention to a major clean up of active record to get old stuff out of the way. 3. Memory leaks......seems to me that you wouldn't wan't to deploy a high traffic site with beta4 and ruby 1.9.2 rc..x... until the memory issues are taken care of. That might be a ruby 1.9.2 issue...it might be a rails issue, that is beyond me at the moment.
If I were a betting man, and I'm not, I'd bet we will see rails 3 rc1 within two weeks, and we may see it in the next 4 or 5 days (today being July 25, 2010) This is a (somewhat) educated guess after following the "f*cking bug tracker" (is there just a "bug tracker"?) and reading through what to me would be the most important issues. (And if a bug is on the "bug tracker" how does it get bumped up to the "f"cking bug tracer"??) My best guess at the silence about what is going on? I dunno.... Seems that one blog post or twitter post confirming the above would be all that it would take now and all that it would have taken a month ago just to let people who are interested what is going on. Part of the big push for rails 3 is to expand not only what experts can do with the system, but what beginners and intermediates can do, and to expand the total base of users. This has been the stated goal of the core team over and over. Not communicating is not the way you expand the total base of users. And while whining about "where is it?" doesn't help, how exaclty does it hurt? To paraphrase New Jersey's governor...."you must be some of the thinnest skinned people I've ever known". If you are on the core team, and you don't get why people are excited and confused and a little bit irritated at the lack of communication....let me restate that, I don't know how you could not understand after most of you have given presentation after presentation about what is coming. But this is an opportunity. You build a community by communicating.......see that the root of both words is the same? You build irritation by not communicating. And those of you who want the noobs to take a ticket and fix it and send the patch......how long have you been working in rails...a couple years?? As a member of the ruby and rails community you can't give others a couple of years to catch up - and in some cases - surpass your ruby and rails skill? And rails itself.....it's no accident that it took this long to re- factor it. Rails 3 really is a lot of merb, isn't it? And only because it was rebuilt with lots of new outside blood will it be as good as it's going to be. All the more to look to the future of what will rails 3 would have been without merb.....and what will rails 4 or 5 be without @whineynoobgenius4 sticking around? So listen up.....@dhh, @wycats, @josevalim, @spastorino etc. You have a giant opportunity to sooth the massive amount of people who have become interested, well, largely by your own efforts to attract their interest. Use that opportunity to communicate and set a foundation for some of the outside blood that is coming in. For every noob that you find irritating and will disappear in a couple of months because they can't pay their dues, there are 5 others that are irritated and will pay their dues and may be on the rails 4 core team, if you are will to communicate. Just a blog post or twitter post a day from one of you will more than suffice. I've noticed a couple of those things in the last day or two and it really helps. And @jeremy/@bitsweet - good for you for speaking your mind, but the FU stuff has a way of coming back to haunt you in things like client negotiations. That post will be here for eons....and you have no idea of all of the people who have seen it and taken note. If I had done that it would keep me up at night. So yes....everybody remain calm. Our long community nightmare is almost over. A few days - couple of weeks at the outside, and people can finish their gems and plugins, and books, and ide's and projects, and hosting platforms and.....well, you get the idea... There I've said it. I'll go back to the shadows now.... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
