On Nov 26, 8:35 am, Colin Law <clan...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Not true for 'every single problem'. I think if you were to look at > my first post on this thread it says that most advise against using > Windows, but if you have to then use railsinstaller. For some reason > the OP has declined to do that. >
I was doing a generalization, a high percentage of that is what I see over stackoverflow, here and other forums. I was not accusing you and apologies if that was the tone. > > > 2) Users do have Linux/bash/git/gcc/apt-get/portage/whatever previous > > experience > > No such assumption is made. Most IT professionals will jump at the > chance of learning Linux. It is an excellent plus on the CV. Using > Rails is an ideal excuse for doing this :) > On some business they see a lost of time by doing that, why try something new (which has a huge learning curve) when you are more billable using the existing tools, even if they make you cry. (believe me, I've heard this argument) Anyhow, for someone that wants to checkout Rails for the first time, the learning curve going that path is too huge for the time they wish to spend on this experiment. Sometimes people uses Rails as a good excuse to try out new prototypes and "sell" it to their bosses. > > Problem is, most of the time these assumptions do not apply and > > increase the frustration of newcomers/newbies that want to try out > > this thing called "Rails" > > > So for those who can't comply with these two assumptions the message > > is "you're not cool enough for this". > > Rubbish, at least on my part anyway. > Apologies again for making it sound was you, I was generalizing from what normally happens on many forums. Yet still, rubbish or not, it happens. > > Projects like RailsInstaller and RubyInstaller exist to help out > > better integration and transition from Windows to Linux environments, > > but that only will happen when users feel comfortable with the newer > > tool. > > I am not sure the Railsinstaller developers would agree that it exists > to help people move to Linux, but perhaps you are right. Dr Nic is the idea generator of RailsInstaller, Wayne E. Seguin was the developer and I assisted him on ensure best usage of RubyInstaller and DevKit. Now, related to what is the goal of RailsInstaller, you can read it here: http://www.slideshare.net/drnic/what-is-your-job-at-your-ruby-club Anyhow, as RubyInstaller developer is not our goal to alienate Windows developers/user and force them to migrate to Linux, but instead give them a choice. RubyInstaller project is working on providing a better and solid Ruby for Windows and RailsInstaller, by using it, will improve too. But, for that to happen, a supportive and friendlier community is required. -- Luis Lavena -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
