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From: "Bob Werre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ctxmf74" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: S-Scale Modeling Long passenger cars on tight curves
I read these emails nightly, this topic is an interesting coincidence. As a
diversion from hand laid track, hi tech electronics, and the ore boat (ok
work, taxes, and politics!), I decided to start building my first rolling
stock -a scratch built Pullman standard streamliner. The 7500 (82' coupled)
headed the CNW "400", as a baggage, lunch counter, tavern and lounge built
9/39. This car rolled through the city where I work today, I was born to
late, never had the opportunity to ride one of these. They were absolutely
first class.
Since I never saw one and it is gone-I obtained what information I could
from the "official Pullman standard library, Vol 9 CNW. I used this
information for CAD files for patterns, but was left without undercarriage
detail. A web search found that two of three remaining "400" cars (coaches
3453 &3444) were at the Jackson Street round house (St Paul) for
restoration. So I went there and got really dirty measuring and
photographing one of the coaches. The coaches were factory rebuilt by
Pullman in 1958, acquired by the GN for the "62" Worlds Fair-Seattle, then
Amtrak and finally the Minnesota Transportation Museum. Well I also spent
some time looking at the NP 2156, Q3 4-6-2 (Casey Jones) being restored
there. Photographed and measure a Waukesha enginator... Although this was
great, I realized that the coaches were modified and different from the 7500
car so I contacted the CNW historical society. CNW vigorously scrapped
these cars and tossed the drawings at the end of passenger service. Joe
Renville (CNW historical society) suggested I contact the Illinois Railroad
Museum who has the Pullman standard drawings. Ted from the museum was very
helpful, found the exact car-and today I received 1.5" scale undercarriage
details. They are labeled east and west and 3'x5') Just had a commercial
thought, would they make great wall paper in the bedroom when I am done. I
also received full scale drawings for the "400" insignia that was used on
the car, along with side frame and roof details. The undercarriage details
are precise -this car had 6 propane bottles, two battery boxes, a Waukesha
ice engine and Waukesha generator (saw both of these at the Jackson Street
round house) radio converter box, steam lines, air reservoirs...we take for
granted how wonderfully complex these cars were and how much labor went into
there operation.
So now I have the information, know one is going to build these, I will
try. I ordered the appropriate brass from on line metals, an 8 way head for
the sherline, along with some new end mills, fly cutter, rotary
table...years after this thread dies I will enjoy building this model in as
much detail as possible.
Will I ever finish it, (NASG 2030 I will bring a model) I think so, but I
seem to dream of new models much quicker than I can build the ones I have
started. So on this list we dream of what could be, what we might build,
and what our vendors and friends are building. Wish I had more time and
money!
Enjoy, a mild winter in Wisconsin, Kent
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