Ahhhh, Bob;

Lets  think about this for a second. Did you ever have to wire an F unit 
backward to make up an A-B-A loco set? On two rail DC every correctly wired 
locomotive will run the same direction, regardless of facing. So, while DCC has 
lots of advantages over plain DC, this doesn't happen to be one of them. More 
to the point is that mid or rear train helpers can actually be operated as on 
the real railroad, by a different crew and at different speeds if required. 
Also, models with different gearing can be run together more easily than with 
DC systems. The ability to run some units facing the opposite way is NOT an 
advantage of DCC.

Pieter Roos

Bob Werre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob,  I think you misread my note.  I 
didn't mention running helpers 
without DCC.  I was talking about the N&W running helpers in reverse 
mode in some old time video that I have.  Those Y's were pushing trains 
tender first.  I had never seen that before.  This is something that 
can't be done with conventional DC unless you wire your pusher engine 
backward.

The other part of my message was about running two engines, both DCC, on 
separate throtttles so I could use whistle signals for greater sound 
effects.  This is quite realistic as each steam engine would have a crew 
and would have to signal each other to avoid problems. 

I need not mention that if your using DCC you can add an engine anyplace 
along the line, you don't need a little block.  This is something I 
occasionally do, and is a feature in the 'Rail Ops' program.  For 
instance a train pulling into a town--one engine and a dozen cars.  The 
train picks up a long string of loaded hoppers and has no set outs.  The 
program will then call for an additional helper engine to the next town 
where many of those cars might be set outs along with the helper.  The 
RailOps program runs hand in hand with DCC.  The program keeps track of 
tonnage ratings, loads, empties, etc. and the DCC can make most of the 
physical operations possible.

Of all the model railroads who have 'operating sessions' in the Houston 
area I don't think there are any left who use conventional DC anymore.  
It's almost a 'must' now days to be able to grasp a Dynatrol or DCC 
throttle and go to work.  I have used Dynatrol, Lenz, Easy DCC, and 
Digitrax throttles with only a couple of minutes of 'education' from 
management.  I find the throttles are very much like different cars.  If 
you frequent the rental car facilities at the airport, you will find 
that some cars won't start unless you put your foot on the break, some 
cars will wash the windows when you think your turning on the lights, 
etc., etc.  Everything is generally there, but in different places.

Does DCC have it problems, certainly.  I  dislike running all those 
wires from the engine to tender on steam engines.  Digitrax, at one time 
cranked out a bunch of defective decoders (DH121) that would loose their 
memories,  some of the older decoders didn't work well with certain 
coreless can motors and I'm sure there are a few more problems that have 
come up.  But just like tuning a noisy engine, there have been solutions 
to all the problems. 

Bob Werre












Robert Nicholson wrote:

> -
> Personally, I don't understand Bob Werre's comment about running
> helpers without DCC. Running mid-train helpers (or pushers) is,
> prototypically, a matter of proper train make-up.
>
>
> Bob Nicholson
>
>  




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