Chris.....I agree....but two comments.... 1. As an Architect...You READ dimensions from A drawing...never scale...sure to get you in trouble.... 2. Have you noticed K-Lines new Allegeny...they are now advertizing it as 1/58 th scale...Will this be A new guage coming up?...SO guage? Could all this scale change stuff be because they are on A decimal system and can't read our figures.... I have A model airplane kit from Japan ...When they translated RUDDER into English...it came out ***K...so every where you have A rudder connection...well you get the pic....Engine cowels came out Nassels ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Zizzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "slist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:33 AM Subject: [S-Trains] Re: New Flyonel
> Chuck F. rightly asks: > >What's all this about "anger?" Why does > >any criticism of Lionel stir up accusations of "getting emotional?" > > As usual, Chuck, I was not just responding to one post. Your reply about > exact size prompted my little diatribe, but the posts of others on this same > thread have indeed been angry and emotional. A recent post about some poor > quality control on NYC PA's was somewhat heated (with jusification) and I > have read other recent and older posts that slam Lionel at every turn. I > guess I was collecting all those thoughts under one response umbrella. > > My focused point is that although you are correct when you say "an object is > either of a certain scale or it isn't", the degree to which variances from > dead center are allowable, varies depending on who you are and how you > model. A very good point was made in today's posts about Gilbert TOFCs, > those tiny, two to a 40 foot flat car, trailers with the black wheels on the > outside. If you are running trains with those cars coupled in, how can you > hold a micrometer to the Lionel intermodal trailers? If you are a scaler > interested in accuracy, then yes, you will hold to fairly tight tolerances. > Even there, you might let a small degree of inaccuracy slide by in the > interests of some expediency or other. But in the toy train world, scale > takes on looser parameters. > > Scaling is not an "either it is or it isn't" proposition unless you are an > architect doing a scale drawing that people need to take measurements from. > Scaling in toy trains works a great deal on what looks OK. That is a > subjective value and it varies from observer to observer. I took several > tractors and trailers including the Lionel trailers, the separate sale > Lionel tractors/trailers, and a variety of so called 1/64th. tractor > trailers including some NASCAR racing team promotionals, a WinRoss, an ERTL, > a separate sale AM trailer, and two trucks from the Tonka (1/72?) series. > Although there were differences, I found them to be minor and not > objectionable. My view was that they would look good together on my > highways, delivering in my factory and warehouse truck bays and loaded onto > my TOFC and spine car sets. I am reasonably fussy about size. I am not one > of the advocates of using 1/48 buses because there aren't too many available > in 1/64. I wish some of that gorgeous die cast stuff put out by Corgi was > smaller, but it isn't and it doesn't fit. I don't plop various non-scale > stuff around because "what the hell, it's all toys anyway." > > I am not a scaler, but I try to stay close to scale, so I'm not a "toy-boy" > either! Maybe that's part of being a hi-railer, being a "near-scaler". > Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. > > Chris Zizzo > > > > S-Trains list sponsor: http://www.americanflyertrains.com > All the Flyer you desire...books and accessories too! > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > S-Trains list sponsor: http://www.americanflyertrains.com All the Flyer you desire...books and accessories too! To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
