I would remove 3 entirely - that's not needed for graduation.

You should also mention the result of the "retirement" discussion -
give the ipmc/board some insight: that folks stepped up and are
pushing forward, i.e. no retirement at this point.

Patrick

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Tikhonov <o...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks !
>
> Added Patrick's & Flavio's comments.
> http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8
>
>
> Is there anything else?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Oleg
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM, FPJ <fpjunque...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> When you say put out more releases, do you mean more in number or having
>> releases more frequently? S4 has had two releases already, but the
>> frequency
>> of releases has been low in the past. I think activity is a real issue.
>>
>> Your point 2 is a good summary of what I've been trying to say. We are on
>> the same page there.
>>
>> -Flavio
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:ph...@apache.org]
>> > Sent: 03 September 2013 06:42
>> > To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report
>> >
>> > I have a few comments:
>> >
>> > 1) I don't think the issues listed in "Three most important issues to
>> address in
>> > the move towards graduation" are apropos. What you want to list here is
>> > things blocking graduation. IMO this is two things; 1) put out more
>> releases,
>> > and 2) build community (of which 2 is more important at this point)
>> >
>> > 2) I think you should also include mention of a PPMC member requesting
>> > that the podling be retired - and the results of that discussion.
>> >
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote:
>> > >> Thanks for the effort! That looks good to me, except maybe that in my
>> > >> view the real issue about graduation is the activity. Adding more
>> > >> requirements will only raise up the bar for graduation.
>> > >
>> > > I think the IPMC would expect to see a more active and self-governing
>> > > project before voting for graduation, whether or not the podling puts
>> > > that down as an issue. (See:
>> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community)
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > >
>> > > jzb
>> > > --
>> > > Joe Brockmeier
>> > > j...@zonker.net
>> > > Twitter: @jzb
>> > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>
>>

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