the item 3 - deleted completely.

Can you shed more light on "retirement" discussion. I am new here and
probably missed it.





On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:

> I would remove 3 entirely - that's not needed for graduation.
>
> You should also mention the result of the "retirement" discussion -
> give the ipmc/board some insight: that folks stepped up and are
> pushing forward, i.e. no retirement at this point.
>
> Patrick
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Tikhonov <o...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Thanks !
> >
> > Added Patrick's & Flavio's comments.
> > http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8
> >
> >
> > Is there anything else?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Oleg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM, FPJ <fpjunque...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> When you say put out more releases, do you mean more in number or having
> >> releases more frequently? S4 has had two releases already, but the
> >> frequency
> >> of releases has been low in the past. I think activity is a real issue.
> >>
> >> Your point 2 is a good summary of what I've been trying to say. We are
> on
> >> the same page there.
> >>
> >> -Flavio
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:ph...@apache.org]
> >> > Sent: 03 September 2013 06:42
> >> > To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report
> >> >
> >> > I have a few comments:
> >> >
> >> > 1) I don't think the issues listed in "Three most important issues to
> >> address in
> >> > the move towards graduation" are apropos. What you want to list here
> is
> >> > things blocking graduation. IMO this is two things; 1) put out more
> >> releases,
> >> > and 2) build community (of which 2 is more important at this point)
> >> >
> >> > 2) I think you should also include mention of a PPMC member requesting
> >> > that the podling be retired - and the results of that discussion.
> >> >
> >> > Patrick
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net>
> wrote:
> >> > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote:
> >> > >> Thanks for the effort! That looks good to me, except maybe that in
> my
> >> > >> view the real issue about graduation is the activity. Adding more
> >> > >> requirements will only raise up the bar for graduation.
> >> > >
> >> > > I think the IPMC would expect to see a more active and
> self-governing
> >> > > project before voting for graduation, whether or not the podling
> puts
> >> > > that down as an issue. (See:
> >> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community)
> >> > >
> >> > > Best,
> >> > >
> >> > > jzb
> >> > > --
> >> > > Joe Brockmeier
> >> > > j...@zonker.net
> >> > > Twitter: @jzb
> >> > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> >>
> >>
>

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