Ted Kosan wrote:
> Jaap wrote:
> 
>>> With bandwidth and memory capacity increasing exponentially, this is
>>> fast becoming a non-issue.
>>>
>> I've heard that before! But I don't believe this is the panacea!
> 
> The exponential growth of computing indicates that by 2020, a $1000
> computer will have the same capacity as a human brain.  By 2050, a
> $1000 computer will have the same capacity as all the human brains on
> the planet.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PPTExponentialGrowthof_Computing.jpg
> 
> http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?main=/articles/art0134.html?
> 
> To me, exponential growth seems more like magic than anything else,
> even if it is just simple science :-)
> 
> If these projections are even close to being accurate then computer
> capacity is not going to be a problem for Java.  I truly believe that
> the real issue we will be dealing with in the not so distant future is
> the best way to upload Sage into human brains.
> 
> 

Count me off!

> 
>> Maybe java is popular, but ask your self why? Managers want it, but they
>> usually don't know why!
> 
> Java is one of the most popular languages for manager-free open source
> projects on sourceforge too:
> 
> http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~flab/languages.html
> 

People and lemmings have something in common! See the primaries in the USA.
The best thing java has brought us is Jython.

> I agree, though, that Java has a significant amount of hype associated
> with it and this is definitely a distraction.
> 
> 
> 
>> Ok, I once thought java was the way to go, but now I'm a convert.
>> I hate java.
> 
> Truth be told, I like programming in Python better than Java when this
> is feasible.  For rich cross-platform browser-based applications,
> however, it is difficult to beat.
> 

I'm not convinced as long Microsoft exists!?

> 
> 
>> E.g. why the hell the new jmoll graphics does not work on
>> my Fedora 7 install from the sage command line?
> 
> Some of this might be due to the quickness with which jmol was added
> to Sage so that it could be demonstrated at the AMS meeting.
> 

Don't think so. It just demonstrates that java is not the
ubiquitous platform to rely on!

Jaap


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