> I don't think it's off-topic to once again point out that this way of phrasing it is very developer-centric. That's not a wrong way to look at it, but an end-user-centric way of looking at it is also valid.
It seems to me that "developer" here refers to a very different kind of developer than me, which is probably because I mostly care about getting my mathematics done and (probably because of that) use only linux. I never had any severe build problems, although recently I have had some problems with TMPDIR. When I say "developer-centric", you probably are already in this category, since you have quite a bit of expertise and also do development work with FriCAS (if I recall correctly?). Anyone building from scratch more than once would probably count in this category :-) but you are right that especially those dealing with the non-mathematical part of the build are most impacted by this disagreement. When I think of "user-centric", I'm thinking more about the mathematicians John Cremona has helped install Sage, often laboriously, or the people that the 3_manifolds project create the Mac binary for, or (especially) people wanting to use Sage to help them with their undergraduate teaching and their research at the same time. People who are not particularly likely to use Github, even if they happen to have an account, people who might not mind a command line to do math, but don't want to mess with things like homebrew or conda or whatever on a work-owned system. (And yes, also people wanting to apt-get Sage, maybe with the AIMS desktop?) My thinking is (as ever) in terms of potential users, not just the already committed. Sage as such has distinct benefits over "just a Python library" in similar ways that M* does. That doesn't mean we should stick with any particular model, but making sure it's not a big roadblock to people creating end-user output is key. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/4db1774e-716e-436e-a30e-8397e80ae0bdn%40googlegroups.com.
