On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:16 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem might not get much worse if Sage-native code starts > providing more functionality. Also, this is an area where the > upstream people might be willing to chip in some effort, since it > would be directly helping them... Perhaps I'm just old-fashioned and showing my age here, but I learned that the user of someone else's work was the one with the responsibility for doing full diligence and work on proper citation, not the other way around. But maybe in this 2.0 world the rules are different, and things are just a free for all with no credit required unless upstream does the leg work... Forgive my tone, but honestly, if an outsider sees messages like the above with a hint of "we'll give proper citation sif the original authors help us", it should come as no surprise that upstream projects are beginning to see inclusion in Sage as an asymmetrical relationship (as commented earlier in this thread) , that benefits entirely one party at the expense of the work of the other. I know for a fact that this is emphatically NOT what William wants, and that he is highly scrupulous of accreditation. But I do think that the project as a whole needs to do a better job of maintaining healthy, *collaborative, 2-way* relationships with all of its upstream projects. Sage would simply not exist if it weren't for the hundreds of thousands of lines of other code it can build upon. That's a well that I think would be a shame to poison. Yes, it's more work to collaborate with someone than to simply take the fruits of their labor. But it's better in the long run. And it also happens to be the right thing to do, which some of us still care about. Cheers, f --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
