Hi everybody.

I see this discussion is getting less focus in this moment.

I am fine with this, I see people has a lot of stuff to do. At the
same time, would you please consider updating the open ticket on SAGE:

http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3852

I think this would make at least this discussion useful for the
future.

Best regards

Maurizio

On 23 Mar, 22:37, Maurizio <maurizio.gran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> People,
> I'm really glad about having brought this discussion to a reasonably
> interesting level.
>
> From now on, I can't give any other comment (I can't deal with code so
> specific issues), but I'd like to hear those coming from the
> mantainers ofSAGE.
> As far as I'm concerned, I was trying to get the attention of
> Quantities' developers, and I think I accomplished this in a fairly
> satisfying way. I can try to give my comments now, but the situation
> now seems to be tightly related on whether there is any chance that
> anybody works on anything.
> So, words are becoming less important than actions in this phase, in
> my opinion.
> By the way, to me, it doesn't seem that dealing with numpy quantities
> should be a big deal (at least for the time being), otherwise how
> comes are we using already numpy for numerical stuff at the moment? I
> know this could be bad for my final aim (that is, bringing physical
> units to a higher degree of functionalities, related to polynomials
> and symbolic, and I've seen that other people have interest in this),
> because maybe getting this simple feature could calm down this
> discussion and let people forget this issue.
>
> To connect to the other discussion we are having in this days, I think
> this engineering related features should be enhanced and stressed (and
> possibly clearly documented), and I don't think this needs to create
> another distribution ofSAGE, the current one is very good and I'd
> like to have a single version.
>
> I still encourage you guys to at least give your comments
>
> Regards and thanks everybody
>
> Maurizio
>
> On 23 Mar, 21:03, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 22, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Darren Dale wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, Jason Grout <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote:
> > >> Maurizio wrote:
> > >>> Not yet... I think I was previously asking whether some of you guys
> > >>> are interested in trying to contact them, if you do think it does
> > >>> makes sense.
>
> > >>> I mean, if this community is interested in having this feature, the
> > >>> Quantities developers are going to find some good feedback,  
> > >>> otherwise,
> > >>> we could just probably end up losing a good occasion, because things
> > >>> are not ready yet (although I hope that's not the case)!
>
> > >> I think there are a good number of people now that would like to have
> > >> the feature, and as you well know, there are lots and *lots* of  
> > >> future
> > >> users that would like to have the functionality.
>
> > >> I'd say it's time to contact them and see if they can help.  If there
> > >> needs to be changes made to Quantities, then making them now,  
> > >> while it
> > >> is still solidifying, would be advantageous.
>
> > > Hello, I am Darren Dale, the developer of Quantities. Thank you
> > > Maurizio for contacting me.
>
> > Glad to hear from you.
>
> > [...]
>
> > > I guess the question I have for this list is, what would be required
> > > for quantities to work insage? I would prefer to try to work out the
> > > numpy issues I alluded to before quantities gets too much exposure, in
> > > case changes in API are required (unlikely).
>
> > Am I correct in understanding that the values in Quantities all need  
> > to be NumPy values? If this is the case, it probably boils down to  
> > NumPy's not handling of non-Python types. This really needs to get  
> > resolved.
>
> > - Robert
>
>
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