Hi Dima, On 2016-04-08, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote: > mind you, Magma group invites such people for paid months-long visits, > where they work on implementing these algorithms in close contact with > Magma core devs. > If only Sage could do this too... :-)
Sage has SageDays, and Sage has a rather responsive community. I recall that in the past, the only serious issue in cooperative projects in Sage was the time difference between Europe/Africa, Americas and Asia. But that could be solved by staying up late. So, I think it *is* possible to implement algorithms in close contact with Sage core devs. > or it might make things worse, as the functionality becomes a function of a > multitude of versions of different parts... +1 And *making* it modular in the first place or even just *coping* with modularisation is something that doesn't lie within the core competences of (most) Sage developers, IMHO. > But there is a way to make code work in Sage as upgrades happen - making it > a part of Sage :-) Indeed that's the approach that I now take with my optional group cohomology spkg. Thereby making it modular, just to give that concept a try. Splitting off one third-party component, upgrading to the current upstream version; rebasing a second third party component on top of the upgraded first third party component (that's the main obstacle); and eventually rebasing my own code on top of it, putting it into the Sage library rather than keeping it in one spkg together with the other two components. But it costs me resources that I'd prefer to spend in a more productive way --- and *nothing* came out of it yet! The attempt to modularise and upgrade one upstream source to cooperate with a more recent version of another upstream source takes longer than creating the original version of the spkg! > Thus I don't buy this "future-proof" statement +1 > (well, of course, Sage may > fold if sufficient number of right people get hit by a bus - but the same > is true for Magma) Perhaps that's the hidden purpose of SageDays. Let's make a conspiracy theory out of it ;-) Cheers, Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
