On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:59 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 11:25 AM kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Though see this: > > https://www.wolfram.com/engine/faq/#can-i-use-the-free-engine-in-an-open-source-project > > That says " However, the Free Engine license does not permit end-user > use, except when this use is for further development. For end-user > uses, users must have a separate license for the Wolfram Engine." > which seems to me to make it crystal clear that it would not be legal > to install cocalc-docker (or even Jupyter notebook) and along with > Wolfram Engine and use it for any purpose except for development of > cocalc or Jupyter itself (i.e., to make sure the UI works). > Everything in that FAQ is about "developing a product".
I'm not a lawyer, but in Wolfram's mindset a scientific paper is a product, too, no ? (Especially assuming it has enough self-promotion hype in it - not sure, if this is a joke :-)) Would putting Wolfram Engine on cocalc with a warning saying "read their terms of use" be too dangerous, risking more than just being slapped with a "cease and desist" letter? Dima > This is a > license aimed at increasing the number of reasons people will buy > Mathematica, by being nice to developers who are building products > that use Mathematica. > > The discussions like this > > https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/274333/wolfram-engine-jupyter-stackrel-mathematica > > (and the corresponding reddit thread) seem to me to be wildly > optimistic in their interpretation. > > Anyway, I'm not a lawyer, though I applaud Wolfram, Inc. for posting > that very clearly worded plain language FAQ instead of just some > massive wall of legalese. > > William > > > On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 2:24:15 PM UTC-5 kcrisman wrote: > >>> > >>> The same could also apply to Cocalc ... except that Cocalc is also a > >>> commercial product, therefore excluded from Wolfram terms for the > >>> *gratis* Wolfram engine... > >> > >> > >> Technically if someone ran a Cocalc instance (say, from a Docker image) > >> that was not commercial, maybe that would be okay? (IANAL as usual.) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "sage-support" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-support/58eebc97-408e-4511-bbc8-c1a61d19249en%40googlegroups.com. > > > > -- > William (http://wstein.org) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-support" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-support/CACLE5GBGVdaisv4SN0g2ZPZXw%3DksWWv1ZXhX8JhaCq3F02xo7w%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-support" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-support/CAAWYfq02EOCja16ceAxgMxx-EycXGybPjz9j_HMd%2B%2BKo%3DBUm0g%40mail.gmail.com.
