I was advice on the list to check primarily the web page then the w3svc. The
problem is that the web page is load balanced between three DMZ servers; the
page is always up no matter one of the three servers is down.

This is the log I sent that time 

Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:54:45 PM NTService check of w3svc on SERVER18
failed
Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:54:45 PM Sending email message (SERVER18(DMZ) is
DOWN)
Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:55:30 PM ERR: Getservice status - OpenSCManager
-  0




 -----Original Message-----
From:   Kevin Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:47 PM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: [SA-list] Monitoring NT service: w3svc

When Servers Alive is running as a service it runs as the system account
by default and this has been reliable in my experience. 

When checking services you can have it authenticate with any account you
choose for local or remote systems., this is specified in the check
itself.  Normally for local services you do not need to specify an
account.  In my case I use the format domain\account because my Servers
Alive system is not a domain member and I check 60 remote servers.

-Kevin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Navarrete, Jose
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:36 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring NT service: w3svc
> 
> 
> Which account is used to get the Services information 
> connecting to the Remote Service Manager...is it the SYSTEM 
> account Will it improve if I run Servers Alive with an 
> account that has the same username and password as the local 
> administrator account in all the monitored servers. Some days 
> these false alerts are a true pain. The alert e-mail sent to 
> the Data center generates page calls to several admin people 
> who started to complain that the product is not consistent.
> 
> Jose.
> 
>   
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:28 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: [SA-list] Monitoring NT service: w3svc
> 
> The service is not down, it's just not possible to check it 
> at that time, and that is already a problem.  So no you 
> should not stop monitoring services.
> 
> 
> dirk.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Navarrete, Jose
> Sent: Fri Mar 07 4:43 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring NT service: w3svc
> 
> 
> That's true Dirk, I have verified older logs and they are 
> about the same with any Service that was monitored (of course 
> it doesn't happen all times). So the problem is not 
> necessarily  that a Service is DOWN, as a matter of fact all 
> the alerts pertaining a Service were "false" in my case. 
> Should I just stop checking services? Is there any further advice?
> 
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:01 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: [SA-list] Monitoring NT service: w3svc
> 
> Most likely the problem is that it can't connect to the 
> remote service manager to get the list of services.  
> Increasing the timeout won't help. Most Nebios calls (those 
> are part of the OS and used for service/diskspace/... checks) 
> don't accept timeout's and will timeout when they want to 
> timeout.  Personaly I find this a big issues within the 
> Netbios calls that MS "provides" to programmers. (and 
> apparently they realy don't think timeout's are usefull since 
> in the WMI interface (also programmer calls provided by the 
> OS) they again didn't provide any timeouts).
> 
> 
> 
> dirk.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Navarrete, Jose
> Sent: Fri Mar 07 3:53 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring NT service: w3svc
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of you for your support; this is the Log:
> 
> Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:54:45 PM NTService check of w3svc 
> on SERVER18 failed Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:54:45 PM 
> Sending email message (SERVER18(DMZ) is
> DOWN)
> Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:55:30 PM ERR: Getservice status - 
> OpenSCManager
> -  0
> 
> Jose.
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:37 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: [SA-list] Monitoring NT service: w3svc
> 
> When you get the false downs, what is in the log (same 
> question as always, please check the logfile and give the 
> messages that are in the log)
> 
> 
> dirk.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Navarrete, Jose
> Sent: Thu Mar 06 11:36 PM
> To: Salive (E-mail)
> Subject: [SA-list] Monitoring NT service: w3svc
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I am having problems monitoring the W3SVC service in three 
> very busy IIS servers. Several times the Alert generates DOWN 
> messages even thou the Server is running fine. I had 
> increased the timeout value to 4 seconds to prevent the 
> "false" alerts  but I am not sure if it is a good value 
> (maybe it is too
> high) to have a true reading for the W3SVC service.
> 
> Any help is appreciated,
> Jose.
> 
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