Michal Rudolf schrieb:

Hi!

>>> I still don't get it why can't we really care about
>>> users.
>> Michal, you're wrong here. Acutally, I always care about
>> users. More that you may notice. ;)
> I understood you insist on removing/not implementing
> features requested by users, just because these features
> can be achieved in power user's way.

You definitely missunderstood that point.

> I may be wrong, but I was trying to oppose 'doing it
> developer's way' policy too many times.

You are wrong here. I just oppose to "imlement life, world
and everything" if there is a probably better way with
integrating with tools that are already there. (Like a
filemanager e.g.) In the case in question it's about to
delete all files with the same name and different
extensions. So, I feel they are easily collectable from
within such a tool and one should invest development time in
more viable things.

>>> Do you think all the features you don't use should be
>>> removed from Scid?
>> No.
>> I just feel adding Drag&Drop (if this is possible in TCL at
>> all) would be much more usefull compared to an not even
>> second class file manager.
> Why should we only have one of these?

Not "Only". Again, not "Only".

> As I wrote before, File Finder is just a better file
> browser than a very awkard Tcl one.

I agree in part with your critics on "file open". Ok, that
one is indeed cluttered by all .dirs. Now I notice what you
refered to.

>> Think about the ability to click on a PGN file from within
>> your normal file manager and it fires up in Scid, opens
>> there if scid is already running or starts Scid if not. (The
>> second part is easily done, the first AFAIK no possible
>> now.)
> If I remember correctly, there was a script to do both
> (writtern by Shane himself?) I will try to check this.

This would be a great tool, indeed. If there is something
please let us know :) I'd associate it ASAP with the scid
bases instead of scid itself.

>> I think that the main point to get things easy for the
>> user is to integrate with the stuff that the user already
>> uses.  Instead of building a file manager I'd think it is
>> much more usefull to reuse the existing one and integrate
>> with that.  Thats all.
> But, what is your suggestion for a very simple case: user
> (this means Windows user in 95% of cases) wants to delete
> database. If we add 'Delete database' command, we can do
> it by single menu item+confirmation. Is there any other
> easy way? Is it:
> 1. Open my Computer or Exporer
> 2. Find database directory

Ok, I admit that I always start here as I do not really use
programs but objects. (Ie. my normal way to open a DB is to
click on it.)

> 3. Select appropriate files (how should user know which
> files are relevant?)

Its the point: actually they are all basename.* Select them
and press DEL.

But I now see your point. This silly windows thing does not
know how to select basename.* So one has to click on each of
them. Sorting the list by name will ease up this.

> 4. Remove them
> 5. Confirm
> I find this not only more difficult, but also more
> error-prone.

Well, if you do it in TCL you might want to notice that it
bypasses the recycle bin. That is if you want to integrate
it avoiding usual windows file management it will not behave
as windows file management. So you come up here with an
other problem. (Same on Linux/Unix if your normal file
manager uses a recycle bin.)

Pascals idea to be able to archive a database I think is
worth considering here, especially if packed into one file
for archival storage. It would ease up the handling plus
give an easy way to exchange a DB.

-- 

Kind regards,

Alexander Wagner
Universitaetsbibliothek Ilmenau
Langewiesener Str. 37
98693 Ilmenau
Tel.: 03677/69-4521 , Fax.: 03677/69-4617

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