it leaves me with a strange disquiet, and I don't make it a real point to catch 
it the way I do, say "Burn Notice" or "Army Wives" (guilty pleasure!)  
Typically I'll watch if it's later at night and my wife and I want to watch a 
little TV while finishing up bills or work. But I don't expect to keep watching 
it with any real regularity

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From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> So Guys. It sounds like you have watched it as much as me. Do you like 
> it or not? will you keep coming back or is it too disturbing? I ask, 
> because I feel like I have a morbid fascination for the show and I find 
> myself looking forward to it. After each viewing, I have to shake off 
> the feeling. I used to say I was going to stop viewing it. But I kept 
> coming back. I've accepted that at least for now, I will be tuning in 
> scratching my head. However, I can see the possibility of sometime 
> feeling n overload 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > 
> > For me, it's that wife having to put up with her husband's boss' 
> > advances, and her husband having to do same (though he kinda sorta got 
> > back at him)...the weird looking guy in the office making love to the 
> > naive secretary on his couch, then treating her with contempt borne of 
> > jealousy at a party...the way the star has run from his past (even 
> > changed his name) and told his desperate-to-be-family half-brother 
> > "don't ever come back"...the way that salad-eating lady gives that 
> > young boy a lock of her hair after knowing he'd spied on her in the 
> > shower--like i said, it's just a little on the sinister side for me. 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "ravenadal" > 
> > Interestingly, the things in Mad Men that fascinate and appall me the 
> > most are the simple everyday things - like pregnant women smoking and 
> > drinking, children being unretrained while bouncing around inside 
> > cars, people being allowed to drive after obviously imbibing way too 
> > much alcohol, the ad guy bringing the boss home unexpectantly and the 
> > wife having to eat a salad (while pretend to be on a diet) while the 
> > men eat steak. Stuff like that. 
> > 
> > ~(no)rave! 
> > 
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > , "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
> > Tracey L. Minor)" wrote: 
> > > 
> > > I totally agree. It is a well-written, well produced and performed 
> > > show, but the world projected to the viewers is like some dark ugly 
> > > caricature of the worse parts of the sixties. The portrayal of 
> > Blacks 
> > > does not bother me as much because, in advertising-- even now there 
> > are 
> > > very few blacks despite the crack down by the federal government in 
> > 1978 
> > > and last year by the New York attorney general. . I do not think 
> > our 
> > > world and their world overlapped much accept for as 
> > cleaning /janitorial 
> > > staff. I would have had simmer anger boiling underneath if I had 
> > to be 
> > > the invisible underlings of these nasty pricks. 
> > > 
> > > A major problem, is there is no protagonist in the traditional 
> > sense to 
> > > root for. The protagonists of the story are cynical, jaded, 
> > > self-centered and egotistical. Right now the only characters that 
> > are 
> > > appealing are the divorcee and the jewish female department store 
> > > owner. Neither are major characters. The secretary might be 
> > appealing, 
> > > but her sexual behavior initially toward her boss and then the guy 
> > who 
> > > used to play Vincent on angel is strange. Viewers may not always 
> > agree 
> > > with the actions and motivations of characters, but it is the job 
> > of the 
> > > writers to help us understand them. I do not think the writers did 
> > that 
> > > with her character. Sometimes I get the impression that the 
> > characters 
> > > are drawn to bring about the the shock we feel at the jaded aspects 
> > of 
> > > the show. The main character is interesting, but again UGLY. Its 
> > hard 
> > > to route for him. 
> > > 
> > > I keep saying I'm not going to watch anymore, because of all the 
> > > negative feeling it evokes, but I sometimes find myself returning 
> > in 
> > > fascinated horror. I wonder how the show would have been if if it 
> > had a 
> > > more balanced look at "mad men" of that era 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > i watch it, but find it to be strange. "Dark", indeed, it's 
> > almost 
> > > > like some kind of funhouse mirror of the time, showing all the 
> > warped 
> > > > and borderline perverted aspects of the time. Can't quite put my 
> > > > finger on it, but it makes me uncomfortable. There's palpable 
> > menace 
> > > > in every show, even when the people are joking. It's as if any 
> > second 
> > > > you expect one of the men (and this is about men) to do something 
> > > > brutal. They can be extremely callous towards and dismissive of 
> > women, 
> > > > most of whom are just objects to be used for work or play, then 
> > > > discarded. Of course the only blacks I've seen are elevator 
> > operators 
> > > > and janitors. Many of the men speak in slow, stilted speech, 
> > almost 
> > > > mumbling, like they're angry or guarded. 
> > > > 
> > > > It's almost like a stylized dream (nightmarish) version of the 
> > time. 
> > > > The look is dead on, but almost too much so, if that makes sense. 
> > The 
> > > > colors feel too vibrant, the suits and hairstyles too perfect, 
> > the 
> > > > sets too dead on, as if someone took all the obvious visual 
> > aspects of 
> > > > the time and put them on screen. It almost feels like a Julie 
> > Taymor 
> > > > ("Freda", "The Lion King" musical) type treatment. 
> > > > 
> > > > I can't get comfortable with any of the men, who run the gamut 
> > from 
> > > > predatory to psycho. Some of the women seem really troubled, as 
> > if the 
> > > > oppression of the times has warped their minds--they can't 
> > fulfill 
> > > > themselves as they'd like in a man's world, so they find other, 
> > odd 
> > > > ways to get release. 
> > > > 
> > > > Everyone in the show feels slightly off, twisted, more like 
> > patients 
> > > > in a mental ward. Really weird vibe. 
> > > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > I remeber there being a few fans of this dark look at the 60ths 
> > on the 
> > > > > list, so I thought this would interest you. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mad Men Gets a Second Season 
> > > > > AMC series will be back for more. 
> > > > > by IGN Staff 
> > > > > 
> > > > > September 19, 2007 - Variety reports that AMC's Mad Men is 
> > about to be 
> > > > > renewed for a second season, with the official announcement set 
> > to be 
> > > > > made as early as the end of today. The series, focusing on New 
> > York 
> > > > City 
> > > > > advertising executives in the 1960s, has been a critical 
> > favorite this 
> > > > > season and done well for the cable station. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Variety notes the ratings for the series have shown a 
> > particular 
> > > > upswing 
> > > > > in the male demographic for AMC. 
> > > > > http://tv.ign.com/articles/821/821190p1.html 
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
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