Thanks. The story certainly looks interesting. It's just made my wishlist.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Milton Davis <mv_media_...@...> wrote: > > There's a brother at blacksciencefictionsociety.com named Ronald T. Jones > that writes excellent military sci/fi. I have his book Chronicle Of The > Vindicator. He's currently submitting manuscripts to publishers. You should > Chronicles if you get a chance. > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, votomguy <votom...@...> wrote: > > > From: votomguy <votom...@...> > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream > sci-fi press? > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 2:52 PM > > > > > > > > > True. I love the hard science/ military scifi books so those were always the > books that I looked for. I got tired of not being able to find hard science/ > military scifi books writen by blacks or that have blacks as the main > character (real characters not cheeseballs) . I took to studying the Black > presence in WWII and I picked up a couple of books. Alot of males in general > (hey let's face it white guys don't read as much as everybody thinks). I > would love to see another book like Dark Matter come out. It went along way > towards pointing me to Black scifi writers. I always took solace in my > favorite comic writers (Dwayne McDuffie and Christopher Priest). Not only do > they write comics, but they also write comics I can read. > > --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Milton Davis <mv_media_atl@ ...> wrote: > > > > I do book signings at least once a month. The majority of the books I have > > sold have been to black women. I did a book club meeting last year, all > > women. I have a book club meetingĀ sheduled in August, all women. I'm > > confident I'll find more black men willing to read my books and I am seeing > > more interest among the brothers, especially the young ones. I'm convinced > > that when made aware of what's available the brothers will come. I hope I'm > > right. > > > > --- On Thu, 6/25/09, votomguy <votomguy@ .> wrote: > > > > > > From: votomguy <votomguy@ .> > > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream > > sci-fi press? > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:07 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before the hiphop/street novel craze, my mom told me about an article (this > > was in the 90s) that said that Publishers refuse to publish books because > > black men don't read enough. To which I replied, "If they never publish the > > books then how will we ever find anything to read." My mom simply said that > > maybe publishers don't want black men to read. > > > > --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, "Reece Jennings" <mcjennings124@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > It might be a combination of all of that, Milton. Yes, Black Women will > > > set > > > up book > > > clubs, and discuss books, etc. But when I mention Sci-Fi to most Black > > > Women, and > > > even try to get the to read some of Ms. Butler's books, they tend to > > > pre-judge and reject > > > without looking. So I keep it to myself...except here, of course. I think > > > a lot of women are > > > cutting off a vast expanse of great reading by pre-judging SF. > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com] On > > > Behalf Of Milton Davis > > > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:38 PM > > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > > Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream > > > sci-fi press? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know a lot a black male fans of Butler. I just seems in my experience > > > most > > > of her fans I've met were black females. But then again that might be > > > because black females read a lot more than we brothers. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ ...> > > > Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream > > > sci-fi press? > > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > > Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 4:37 PM > > > > > > > > > That comprises a graduating class of considerable note. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > > Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream > > > sci-fi press? > > > Date : Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:22:52 -0400 > > > From : "Reece Jennings" <mcjennings124@ yahoo.com> > > > To : <scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com> > > > > > > I love her. She's my favorite because of the social aspect of her > > > writing.. > > > I've been a Black Male all say (peeking to make sure!) > > > > > > Of course, we are both 1947 Cancerians, so that might have something to > > > do > > > with it! :o) > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] > > > On > > > Behalf Of Milton Davis > > > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:32 AM > > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream > > > sci-fi press? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know plenty young black science fiction fans that credit Octavia Butler > > > as > > > > > > the beacon that led them to science fiction. I'm an old school science > > > fiction fan, raised on Assimov, Delany, Herbert and Ellision. I like > > > Butler's work, but I consider it more social science fiction. She deals > > > more > > > > > > with relationships and issues rather than the technical aspect of science > > > fiction, which we all know gets more attention. I think that's the reason > > > her prose seems to have special appeal to black female science fiction > > > fans. > > > > > > I enjoyed everything I've read by her but I can't say I'm a fan. She was > > > a > > > greater writer than I'll probably ever be and got her respect among the > > > sci/fi elite if not the mainstream. > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, B. Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: B. Smith > > > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream > > > sci-fi press? > > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:19 AM > > > > > > > > > She's highly regarded but not given the same respect as the legendary > > > hard > > > sci-fi types. Her work falls into the more literary side of the genre and > > > in > > > > > > some ways she was more highly regarded outside the genre. > > > > > > --- In scifino...@yahoogro > > > > > > ups.com, "Martin Baxter" wrote: > > > > > > > > George, it's possible, but I see her lack of props as being more a > > > > matter > > > of the mainstream SF press not knowing what the frell it's doing. IMO, > > > they've become like the music industry, more interested in the flavor of > > > the > > > > > > week than actual decent work. When I go to the bookstore and browse the > > > SF/fantasy shelves, the stuff I see is so derivative as to be > > > embarrassing. > > > Nine times out of ten, I can figure out what the story inside the covers > > > is > > > solely by what pose the characters on the cover are striking. Shouldn't > > > be > > > that easy, even for a guy with my brain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > > > > > > Subject : [scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi > > > press? > > > > > > > Date : Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > From : George Arterberry > > > > > > > To : scifino...@yahoogro > > > > > > ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > I've rarely seen her represented in so-called mainstream press. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? > > > v=JQdwk8Yntds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds > > > > > >