OK I know I am late, but please forgive, I did not know you were an author.
--Lavender


From: Milton Davis 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:38 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi 
press?




      I got a bit of advice from a writer friend of mine.He told me my audience 
was anyone who reads. He told me don't tell them my book is either science 
fiction or fantasy, just tell them what it's about. Get them into the story, 
not the genre. It's worked pretty well so far.

      --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Reece Jennings <mcjennings...@yahoo.com> wrote:


        From: Reece Jennings <mcjennings...@yahoo.com>
        Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in 
mainstream sci-fi press?
        To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 7:36 PM


        It might be a combination of all of that, Milton.  Yes, Black Women 
will set up book
        clubs, and discuss books, etc.  But when I mention Sci-Fi to most Black 
Women, and
        even try to get the to read some of Ms. Butler's books, they tend to 
pre-judge and reject
        without looking.  So I keep it to myself...except here, of course..  I 
think a lot of women are
        cutting off a vast expanse of great reading by pre-judging SF.




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        From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] 
On Behalf Of Milton Davis
        Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:38 PM
        To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
        Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in 
mainstream sci-fi press?


              I know a lot a black male fans of Butler. I just seems in my 
experience most of her fans I've met were black females. But then again that 
might be because black females read a lot more than we brothers.

              --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ lycos.com> 
wrote:


                From: Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ lycos.com>
                Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in 
mainstream sci-fi press?
                To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
                Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 4:37 PM


                      That comprises a graduating class of considerable note.





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                        Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler 
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                        Date : Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:22:52 -0400
                        From : "Reece Jennings" <mcjennings124@ yahoo.com>
                        To : <scifino...@yahoogro ups.com>

                        I love her. She's my favorite because of the social 
aspect of her writing. 
                        I've been a Black Male all say (peeking to make sure!) 

                        Of course, we are both 1947 Cancerians, so that might 
have something to do 
                        with it! :o) 


                        _____ 

                        From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ 
yahoogroups. com] On 
                        Behalf Of Milton Davis 
                        Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:32 AM 
                        To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
                        Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler 
underrated in mainstream 
                        sci-fi press? 






                        I know plenty young black science fiction fans that 
credit Octavia Butler as 
                        the beacon that led them to science fiction. I'm an old 
school science 
                        fiction fan, raised on Assimov, Delany, Herbert and 
Ellision. I like 
                        Butler's work, but I consider it more social science 
fiction. She deals more 
                        with relationships and issues rather than the technical 
aspect of science 
                        fiction, which we all know gets more attention. I think 
that's the reason 
                        her prose seems to have special appeal to black female 
science fiction fans. 
                        I enjoyed everything I've read by her but I can't say 
I'm a fan. She was a 
                        greater writer than I'll probably ever be and got her 
respect among the 
                        sci/fi elite if not the mainstream. 

                        --- On Wed, 6/24/09, B. Smith wrote: 




                        From: B. Smith 
                        Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler 
underrated in mainstream 
                        sci-fi press? 
                        To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
                        Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:19 AM 


                        She's highly regarded but not given the same respect as 
the legendary hard 
                        sci-fi types. Her work falls into the more literary 
side of the genre and in 
                        some ways she was more highly regarded outside the 
genre. 

                        --- In scifino...@yahoogro 

                        ups.com, "Martin Baxter" wrote: 
                        > 
                        > George, it's possible, but I see her lack of props as 
being more a matter 
                        of the mainstream SF press not knowing what the frell 
it's doing. IMO, 
                        they've become like the music industry, more interested 
in the flavor of the 
                        week than actual decent work. When I go to the 
bookstore and browse the 
                        SF/fantasy shelves, the stuff I see is so derivative as 
to be embarrassing. 
                        Nine times out of ten, I can figure out what the story 
inside the covers is 
                        solely by what pose the characters on the cover are 
striking. Shouldn't be 
                        that easy, even for a guy with my brain. 
                        > 
                        > 
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                        Date : Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT) 
                        > 
                        From : George Arterberry 
                        > 
                        To : scifino...@yahoogro 

                        ups.com 
                        > 
                        > 
                        > I've rarely seen her represented in so-called 
mainstream press. 
                        > 
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                        > http://www.youtube. com/watch? 
                        v=JQdwk8Yntds 
                        > 









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