Oh don't get me started! :) Fallon is the worst waste of space on tv! Infomercials are more entertaining than his disjointed sap!
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:55 PM, C.W. Badie <astromancer2...@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > No, really, Mr. Worf, tell us how you really feel... > > > "Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet" > From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie > > --- On *Fri, 1/22/10, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan O'Brien: Free At Last! > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:44 PM > > > Kimmel is really a writer. He needs to be part of a team writing somewhere > and not hosting a show, but ABC has been trying to compete on the late night > for years. Fallon is just a waste of space. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ > comcast.net<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=keithbjohn...@comcast.net> > > wrote: > >> >> >> Agreed, that's why I'm glad this failed. We need original scripted TV, not >> more talk shows in a field already overloaded with mostly mediocre talent >> (Kimmel and Fallon especially). And I'm more irritated at Leno, the more I >> think of it. He never should have agreed to a 10 pm show that couldn't help >> but hurt Conan. >> I've said it before: if you want to bring something different to TV, how >> about an old-time variety show. Something like Carol Burnett updated, with >> skits, singing, dancing, etc. Cedric the Entertainer tried it a while back >> and didn't succeed. I believe Brady tried such a show, with little success. >> But maybe it could work as a once-a-week show. Surely Americans' tastes >> haven't fallen so far that we're satisfied with the likes of "American Idol" >> or "Dancing with the Stars"??? >> Or maybe a new show similiar to "In Living Color"? >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> >> > >> To: scifino...@yahoogro >> ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com> >> Cc: " Lockhart, Daryle " <dar...@darylelockha >> rt.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dar...@darylelockhart.com>>, >> afrikanmind@ >> hotmail.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=afrikanm...@hotmail.com>, >> "Albert Fields" <cbilmarketing@ >> yahoo.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cbilmarket...@yahoo.com>>, >> bettil...@msn. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bettil...@msn.com>, >> "CINQUE" <cinque3...@verizon. >> net<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cinque3...@verizon.net>>, >> dorothyhamm@ sbcglobal. >> net<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net>, >> duva...@hotmail. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=duva...@hotmail.com>, >> fis...@bellsouth. >> net<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fis...@bellsouth.net>, >> "GTW" <gwashin...@aol. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gwashin...@aol.com>>, >> "Jeffrey Ballou" <jeffreypballou@ >> gmail.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jeffreypbal...@gmail.com>>, >> "Kai Pettaway" <killa...@gmail. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=killa...@gmail.com>>, >> kalpub...@aol. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kalpub...@aol.com>, >> keithbjohnson@ >> comcast.net<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=keithbjohn...@comcast.net>, >> "Kera" <imke...@gmail. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=imke...@gmail.com>>, >> "Leroy Hughes" <seriousnupe87@ >> yahoo.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seriousnup...@yahoo.com>>, >> "Logic" <logic1...@aol. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=logic1...@aol.com>>, >> "Martin Baxter" <Truthseeker013@ >> icqmail.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@icqmail.com>>, >> "Marvalous" <mmb1...@gmail. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mmb1...@gmail.com>>, >> "Michael Gordon" <gord...@indiana. >> edu<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gord...@indiana.edu>>, >> "michael v w gordon" <michael.v.w. gor...@gmail. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michael.v.w.gor...@gmail.com>>, >> "ravenadal" <ravena...@yahoo. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ravena...@yahoo.com>>, >> rs...@yahoo. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rs...@yahoo.com>, >> "Seku Brathwaite" <everythingist@ >> nyc.rr.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=everything...@nyc.rr.com>>, >> "Valery Jean" <valeryjean77@ >> yahoo.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=valeryjea...@yahoo.com>>, >> "Wendell Theophilus Smith" <wendellsmithis@ >> gmail.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wendellsmit...@gmail.com>>, >> "Whitney J Evans" <sonofafieldnegro@ sbcglobal. >> net<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sonofafieldne...@sbcglobal.net>>, >> williamsfred@ speakeasy. >> net<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=williamsf...@speakeasy.net>, >> "Zanfordino Anthony" <beta...@yahoo. >> com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=beta...@yahoo.com> >> > >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:10:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Conan O'Brien: Free At Last! >> >> I was reading some media analysis the other day and here is an >> interesting perspective. >> >> >> 1. When Jonny Carson handed over the reins, he did not opt to >> compete on ABC against the Tonight Show, as Leno was going to do. >> 2. When Jonny Carson handed over the reins, he did not opt to >> present the same show, an hour before his old show >> 3. Most of the audience that tunes into the tonight show is the >> same audience that watched the news prior to the tonight show. Most people >> watch the news that comes on after the 10:00 pm show they are watching. If >> people turn off Leno, and then turn off the news, then Leno was chasing the >> audience away from Conan. >> 4. The made Conan tone down his humor once ratings dropped, but if >> Leno had not chased away the audience from the news, who is to say what >> audience Conan would have pulled >> 5. Leno pulled some sleazy shenanigans with Letterman and now he is >> doing the same with Coco. >> >> >> >> I hope the Tonight show tanks. >> > > > *From:* scifino...@yahoogro > ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com>[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro > ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson > *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:25 PM > > *To:* scifino...@yahoogro > ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com> > *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Conan O'Brien: Free At Last! > > > > > > > Wow, thirty-plus mill to get *fired*? And his staff splits twelve mill, > but Conan's going to give them extra cash? That's cool. I've seen Zucker > from NBC all over the tube, everywhere from Charlie Rose to the financial > channel, trying to explain this debacle. Reminds one of why some people need > to stay behind the scenes. He comes off as defensive, surly, like a child > who's caught doing something wrong, but remains defiant. A lot of "we made > what we thought was a smart move, but it didn't work". Very little honest > "we screwed it up and screwed O'Brien to boot". > > End of story: I still don't get who felt that Conan could be an exact > replacement for Leno, given the differences in their appeal, and the > expected differences in what demographics Conan would attract. I don't get > who the hell felt it was sufficient to say that o'Brien had failed after > only seven months, when it took Leno himself a year-and-a-half to hit his > stride. And I really don't get who in the world thought O'Brien had a chance > to succeed when Leno had a show on earlier than his, both sapping potential > O'Brien viewers, and subjecting the public to talk show overload, possibly > chasing off viewers for both shows. > > NBC screwed this up royally, and made it worse when Ebersol (?) recently > tried to blame a lot of this on O'Brien's refusal to change the Tonight Show > format. I guess we can't blame Leno, who just wants to work, but I wish he'd > have said "no" to the 10 pm show, and really wish he'd say "no" to taking > the Tonight Show back. That would have taught NBC a lesson. > > Frankly I'm glad this all failed. I didn't relish a solid five hours of > primetime being replaced by a talkshow. We're losing enough original > programming on broadcast TV as it is. > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ******** > http://www.tv. com/conan- obrien-free- at-last!/ story/20919. html?tag= > hotspot;gumball; > 1<http://www.tv.com/conan-obrien-free-at-last%21/story/20919.html?tag=hotspot;gumball;1> > Conan O'Brien: Free At Last! > > by Tim Surette <http://www.tv.com/news/author.html?author_id=30> TV.com > Staff Writer 01/21/10 10:15 AM > > [image: Conan O'Brien: Free At > Last!]<http://www.tv.com/the-league/show/77568/summary.html> > What's the going rate for an unfair firing these days? About $45 million if > you hosted a late-night talk show on a major network. The Conan > O'Brien<http://www.tv.com/conan-obrien/person/3465/summary.html>vs. NBC saga > is finally coming to an end, says > *The Hollywood > Reporter*<http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i58f0e7e6076e5043be5bdbd2e2483b15>, > as both sides have agreed to a deal that frees O'Brien from his contract > with NBC and includes a whole lotta stipulations. > First, let's talk money—since that's what the whole kerfuffle was about. > The entire settlement is reportedly worth between $45 million and $50 > million, with Conan pocketing $32 million and his staff sharing $12 million. > But don't feel too bad for Johnny the Janitor; reports say O'Brien will be > supplementing his employees' severance packages out of his pocket. > O'Brien's last night behind the desk of *The Tonight Show with Conan > O'Brien<http://www.tv.com/the-tonight-show-with-conan-obrien/show/75634/summary.html> > * will be tomorrow (Friday, January 22), with Conan repeats airing until > the start of the Winter Olympics. After that, Jay > Leno<http://www.tv.com/jay-leno/person/2431/summary.html>will return to > *The Tonight Show with Jay > Leno<http://www.tv.com/the-tonight-show-with-jay-leno/show/10020/summary.html> > * on March 1, global warming will cease, world peace will rule, and the > long war between cats and dogs shall end. Or so NBC believes. > The deal also bars Conan from hosting another show until September, and all > the characters Conan created for his shows—including the lovable Pimpbot, > the very relatable Masturbating Bear, and Triumph the Insult Comic Dog—will > *gulp* remain the property of NBC, which will let them collect dust in their > mausoleum of stolen artifacts. Triumph is the cash cow here, and he should > belong to Robert > Smigel<http://www.tv.com/robert-smigel/person/47611/summary.html>, > who does all of the delightfully distasteful dog's improv and masterful > puppeteering. > The final tally? Conan received the dream job he worked his entire life for > for a total of seven months. > The big questions now: What will Conan do next? What *should* Conan do > next? And how will audiences respond to the return of Jay Leno? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ > of_darkness/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/> > > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
