The 1% fixes a lot. I did not have a problem with the power going out. They were having blackouts and brownouts before the government fell. Cell phones were not working and the networks went down. So it's not surprise that the Grid would be the first to go. Here in the US, it would have gone soon. The GRID is in sad shape. That is why I thought the use of an electric car was out of the question. At best converting cars to biodiesel is their best bet, but long-term, I think they need to look at horses as another form of viable transport along with biodiesel using cooking oil.
I agree that people like the Black guy are rare, but what about the doctor. Doctors who work in hospitals around the world train for emergencies, yet she left the hospital without even a pocketbook or a first aid kit. Hospitals are equipped with emergency generators too. Most people would be clueless, but would they drive around aimlessly? I do not think anyone who has managed a project, a committee, put on a school play, owned a small business, or worked as a mid-level manager would drive around aimlessly for days or think the best option would be to meet people and abandon them, because we are going to find more. I do not think the average person is wired that way. For instance, I get the woman wanting to find her son. If he has her genes, he may have survived. She also had not yet figured out that there was not government, but I do not get the man, who had a clue about how things were going to be so easily letting her go. People cannot survive alone. The guy from Kuwait driving around for days with no plan for even getting food. The criminal grabbing money. What for? Would everybody be clueless? Despite my complaints, I kind of liked it, so I was not going to abandon it, but the characters' motivation still irks me -----Original Message----- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:59 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? Give it an episode or two and everything you guys mentioned will start to be answered. This was an intro episode and they spent more time introducing characters than getting to the nuts and bolts of survival. The survivors we have met so far are by an large urbanites who are pretty clueless about how stuff works. They kept thinking the government would get it's act together and establish some order but that all went down the tubes.. I think that actually helped me enjoy the show. In the aftermath of a disaster this size people like Greg would be few and far between. BTW they initially thought that 10% of the population would be immune but it turned out to be less than 1%. England would have about 500,000 people scattered around post virus. The show is set in the Manchester area which has a roughly comparable population to Denver, Cleveland or pre-Katrina New Orleans. So that leaves roughly 25,000 people alive in that area. Someone mentioned going to London and Greg told them it was a bad idea. So as bad as things were where they were it was far better than London. As far as the power issue I was reading up on it and a catastrophic failure of the power grid can happen in less than a day if the plants aren't properly monitored, fueled, etc. If some of the powerplants failed early on it could have a cascading effect and end up taking down the entire grid. Imagine a country full of accidents like gas station explosion and it would make sense why they didn't have power. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> wrote: > > Another thing about the show that bugged me was who would allow their > families and the rest of the country to die in order to keep a secret for > the government or company? > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@...> wrote: > > > Solar panels, windmills and batteries would be the first thing I grab after > > securing everything else. It would be nice to watch a movie once in a while. > > Your husband is correct about grabbing books on how to do things. You will > > definitely need all of that info. > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Tracey de Morsella < > > tdli...@...> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Electric is going to go too. It they got a diesel they could make fuel > >> from cooking waste and tons of cooking oil let in all the stores. > >> (Treehugger in the house). I like your idea of going to Buckingham > >> palace. I was telling my husband that I would stay in London an look for > >> one of the old mansions that they used to build in the center of town that > >> usually get turned into museums. Buckingham palace will do just fine. > >> > >> > >> > >> What is driving me crazy is that people who see no people are so willing > >> to leave each other when they may not see anyone for ages. I will watch > >> it, > >> but character motivation in this thing sucks. > >> > >> > >> > >> My husband said he would go around to hoard tools as over times they would > >> become scarce. I said I would raid libraries and books stores so I could > >> get > >> a community of people learning critical skills for survival. Medicine, > >> construction, engineering, etc. I also would go after seeds for planting > >> veggies and fruits. > >> > >> > >> > >> What would be the first thing you would go after once you secured the > >> palace J > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > >> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > >> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 10:41 PM > >> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > >> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Survivors? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yea that was a bit stupid. I didn't understand why water and power cut off > >> only after 3 days. That made no sense to me at all. Another was no one > >> thought of walking over to the toyota dealer and taking a new prius running > >> on electric power instead of worrying about gas. > >> > >> I can understand that after everyone dying off it would make sense that > >> people would be a little dazed for a while until reality starts to set in. > >> Only the black guy took the time to grab supplies and a good vehicle that > >> can drive off road. > >> > >> If I were them I would go to Buckingham palace. It has tons of animals and > >> veggies. Plus lots of safety zones and large weapons cache. > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella < > >> tdli...@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Its passable, but I’m underwhelmed. Plus, I get the idea that they said > >> 10% of the population would survive. That a great deal more than the > >> sparseness of people that we are seeing. Additionally, people are not > >> really responding in a way consistent how I think some would respond to > >> Armageddon.. Other than the Black guy and finally the woman, people are > >> aimless with no indication of coming up with a course of action. While not > >> everyone is a planner, some doctors, engineers, and managers after a few > >> days would become aware of the ramifications of their situation and start > >> trying to figure out a plan of survival. > >> > >> > >> > >> These people just drive around for days and days. Makes no sense that > >> driving aimlessly would be everyone’s way of handling it.. I hate shows > >> that do not even bother with having a technical expert to consult with > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > >> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > >> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 9:00 PM > >> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > >> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Survivors? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Did anyone watch this show? 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