You brought up a lot of good points. Why didn't anyone on the show have face masks? (we couldn't see their lovely faces I guess?)
This show reminded me of The Stand and a couple other similar movies. If there is no government money is meaningless. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Tracey de Morsella < tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote: > The 1% fixes a lot. I did not have a problem with the power going out. > They were having blackouts and brownouts before the government fell. Cell > phones were not working and the networks went down. So it's not surprise > that the Grid would be the first to go. Here in the US, it would have gone > soon. The GRID is in sad shape. That is why I thought the use of an > electric car was out of the question. At best converting cars to biodiesel > is their best bet, but long-term, I think they need to look at horses as > another form of viable transport along with biodiesel using cooking oil. > > I agree that people like the Black guy are rare, but what about the doctor. > Doctors who work in hospitals around the world train for emergencies, yet > she left the hospital without even a pocketbook or a first aid kit. > Hospitals are equipped with emergency generators too. Most people would be > clueless, but would they drive around aimlessly? I do not think anyone > who has managed a project, a committee, put on a school play, owned a small > business, or worked as a mid-level manager would drive around aimlessly for > days or think the best option would be to meet people and abandon them, > because we are going to find more. > > I do not think the average person is wired that way. For instance, I get > the woman wanting to find her son. If he has her genes, he may have > survived. She also had not yet figured out that there was not government, > but I do not get the man, who had a clue about how things were going to be > so easily letting her go. People cannot survive alone. The guy from Kuwait > driving around for days with no plan for even getting food. The criminal > grabbing money. What for? > > Would everybody be clueless? > > Despite my complaints, I kind of liked it, so I was not going to abandon > it, but the characters' motivation still irks me > > -----Original Message----- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of B Smith > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:59 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > Give it an episode or two and everything you guys mentioned will start to > be answered. This was an intro episode and they spent more time introducing > characters than getting to the nuts and bolts of survival. > > The survivors we have met so far are by an large urbanites who are pretty > clueless about how stuff works. They kept thinking the government would get > it's act together and establish some order but that all went down the > tubes.. I think that actually helped me enjoy the show. In the aftermath of > a disaster this size people like Greg would be few and far between. > > BTW they initially thought that 10% of the population would be immune but > it turned out to be less than 1%. England would have about 500,000 people > scattered around post virus. The show is set in the Manchester area which > has a roughly comparable population to Denver, Cleveland or pre-Katrina New > Orleans. So that leaves roughly 25,000 people alive in that area. Someone > mentioned going to London and Greg told them it was a bad idea. So as bad as > things were where they were it was far better than London. > > As far as the power issue I was reading up on it and a catastrophic failure > of the power grid can happen in less than a day if the plants aren't > properly monitored, fueled, etc. If some of the powerplants failed early on > it could have a cascading effect and end up taking down the entire grid. > Imagine a country full of accidents like gas station explosion and it would > make sense why they didn't have power. > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> wrote: > > > > Another thing about the show that bugged me was who would allow their > > families and the rest of the country to die in order to keep a secret for > > the government or company? > > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@...> wrote: > > > > > Solar panels, windmills and batteries would be the first thing I grab > after > > > securing everything else. It would be nice to watch a movie once in a > while. > > > Your husband is correct about grabbing books on how to do things. You > will > > > definitely need all of that info. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Tracey de Morsella < > > > tdli...@...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> Electric is going to go too. It they got a diesel they could make > fuel > > >> from cooking waste and tons of cooking oil let in all the stores. > > >> (Treehugger in the house). I like your idea of going to Buckingham > > >> palace. I was telling my husband that I would stay in London an look > for > > >> one of the old mansions that they used to build in the center of town > that > > >> usually get turned into museums. Buckingham palace will do just fine. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> What is driving me crazy is that people who see no people are so > willing > > >> to leave each other when they may not see anyone for ages. I will > watch it, > > >> but character motivation in this thing sucks. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> My husband said he would go around to hoard tools as over times they > would > > >> become scarce. I said I would raid libraries and books stores so I > could get > > >> a community of people learning critical skills for survival. > Medicine, > > >> construction, engineering, etc. I also would go after seeds for > planting > > >> veggies and fruits. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> What would be the first thing you would go after once you secured the > > >> palace J > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] > *On > > >> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > > >> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 10:41 PM > > >> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > >> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Survivors? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Yea that was a bit stupid. I didn't understand why water and power cut > off > > >> only after 3 days. That made no sense to me at all. Another was no one > > >> thought of walking over to the toyota dealer and taking a new prius > running > > >> on electric power instead of worrying about gas. > > >> > > >> I can understand that after everyone dying off it would make sense > that > > >> people would be a little dazed for a while until reality starts to set > in. > > >> Only the black guy took the time to grab supplies and a good vehicle > that > > >> can drive off road. > > >> > > >> If I were them I would go to Buckingham palace. It has tons of animals > and > > >> veggies. Plus lots of safety zones and large weapons cache. > > >> > > >> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella < > > >> tdli...@...> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Its passable, but I’m underwhelmed. Plus, I get the idea that they > said > > >> 10% of the population would survive. That a great deal more than the > > >> sparseness of people that we are seeing. Additionally, people are not > > >> really responding in a way consistent how I think some would respond > to > > >> Armageddon.. Other than the Black guy and finally the woman, people > are > > >> aimless with no indication of coming up with a course of action. > While not > > >> everyone is a planner, some doctors, engineers, and managers after a > few > > >> days would become aware of the ramifications of their situation and > start > > >> trying to figure out a plan of survival. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> These people just drive around for days and days. Makes no sense that > > >> driving aimlessly would be everyone’s way of handling it.. I hate > shows > > >> that do not even bother with having a technical expert to consult with > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] > *On > > >> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > > >> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 9:00 PM > > >> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > >> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Survivors? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Did anyone watch this show? 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