You're right about me not having kids. But I'm big on quality food, and it 
doesn't have to be expensive. My parents used Dairy Queen (back when it was 
awesome) and What-a-Burger and Jack-In-The-Box as treats. Back in the day, all 
served up good food that was lightyears beyond McDonald's and they weren't that 
expensive. Dairy Queen, for example, was about the same in price. But the key 
was we didn't eat fast food a lot, so when we did, it was a real treat and we 
went to places that put Mickey D's to shame. 

I think what disturbs me is the idea that if you have children you have to feed 
them fast food so much that you could go broke. What about limiting it, making 
it a treat and then giving them a good meal that's not rushed? It troubles me 
how we just accept nowadays that McDonald's has to be a regular trip for the 
family just because they have kids and maybe both parents work. Cut the fast 
food for the kids down from four or five or six times a week to only one or 
two, and then you can pay a bit more for quality. I also think people need to 
learn to slow down and really enjoy a meal. I hate eating fast even at a fast 
food joint. Some of the mom-and-pop joints I go to for burgers and hot dogs and 
the like aren't so pricey that you'd go broke over McDonalds. Indeed, for what 
you get, many are very economical. But the food's better, the meals are longer, 
and adults and kids have fun. Just because kids may not be able to appreciate a 
higher quality burger doesn't mean the adults should have to suffer. And maybe 
it's just me, but even as a wee lad, I could tell the difference in a quality, 
real beef, burger over the stuff most of the fast food joints put out. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@yahoo.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2010 9:40:26 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: McDonald's menu is getting leaner 






Keith, it is obvious you do not have children. You would go broke feeding them 
at Five Guys, Steak and Shake and Ted's Montana Grill - further, most children 
would not appreciate what these restaurants serve. 

In my sane-and-sober youth I used to love McDonald's hotcakes. Now, I realize 
how truly vile they are (big ups to Milwaukee's Daymaker Restaurant and their 
Cyclops pancake - a colossal pancake with sausage baked inside and a poached 
egg in the middle). 

My eighteen year-old daughter still orders off the children's menu. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: 
> 
> Don't know. I try to avoid McDonald's. For breakfast I like to go to real 
> breakfast joints that serve pancakes and syrup on something other than 
> plastic plates. When it comes to burger joints, I eschew most chains like 
> that, and prefer to go to good mom-and-pop joints. Or if I do chains, I do 
> those that actually take time to cook good burgers, provide real shakes, 
> things like chili, onion rings, etc. Sorry to go on, but I'm a 
> burger-and-shake lover. For chains in Atlanta, the best are Virginia-based 
> Five Guys, Steak-and-Shake, LA-based Fat Burger, and Ted's Montana Grill. 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxt...@...> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:37:48 PM 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] McDonald's menu is getting leaner 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Keith, doesn't the Mickey D's on Peachtree across from Barnes & Noble already 
> serve oatmeal? I seem to recall it on the menu last time I was there, last 
> year. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Kelwyn < ravena...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I always referred to the Big N'Tasty as the "Big N'asty" burger. I am 
> shocked, shocked I tell you, to find out that the Big N'asty burger was 
> supposed to be McDonald's answer to Burger King's Whopper. 
> 
> ~rave? 
> 
> http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-06-30/business/ct-biz-0701-mcdonalds-20100630_1_fruit-and-walnut-salad-mcdonald-menu
>  
> 
> McDonald's menu getting leaner 
> 
> Restaurant to add oatmeal breakfast, eliminate 3 low-selling items 
> 
> June 30, 2010|By Robert Channick 
> 
> The expansive McDonald's menu is undergoing a makeover. Out will be some low 
> sellers; in will be leaner breakfast fare. 
> 
> In a memo sent to franchisees, the Oak Brook-based chain signaled the 
> impending demise of the Big N' Tasty, Mac Snack Wraps and the fruit and 
> walnut salad, among other items. At the same time, McDonald's is gearing up 
> for a planned national rollout in January of an oatmeal breakfast, currently 
> being test-marketed. 
> 
> The menu moves, particularly the new breakfast offering, could prove healthy 
> for customers' waistlines and McDonald's bottom line, according to 
> Morningstar restaurant analyst R.J. Hottovy. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
> 


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