I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see "Casino Royale") not the beginning.
One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have > been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured > by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce > Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also > stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good > believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? > Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any > intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was > a thing that turned me on (and it's not). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye > > > > > > > It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity > of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. > This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a > woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or > raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) > killed, kidnapped and/or raped. > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after > > having been abused. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxter7@> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn < ravenadal@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it > > did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. > > > > Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful > > kick-ass female action movie: > > > > Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and > > beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > >
