On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote:
> > > Wow, sorry to hear about your unfortunate past, which is all too common in > this world. > Entirely too common. :( It's one of the things I've learned about in talking with others. People estimate it's one in four women; I'm going to boldly state it's more like three in four. > But you make the point I was trying to make. Rave is right on, this is too > much a gimmick in media. But in some contexts it may be germane to the > story. A possible American spy captured by the North Koreans would indeed be > tortured, and I can see this being done to a man--as it was done with Bond > when he was captured by the N. Koreans in his movie. I didn't see the scene > with Salt as exploitative, but reasonable in the context of this particular > movie, be Salt a man or woman. > I read an article that stated that this movie was originally meant to have a male lead but for whatever reason, Jolie won the role. If that scene was in there before then it's obviously not a chick thing. But *again*...depends on how it's done. > Also, as you mentioned, there is an unfortunate truth that sexual assault, > beating, and dehumanization of people is part of what happens in war and > captivity. Men beat male prisoners, and stripping a prisoner naked is a > universal method to make that person feel physically and mentally naked, a > way to take away any semblance of physical or psychological protection from > the prisoner. That is done to men and women, and no one is above doing it, > such as our own beloved United States, which stripped Middle Eastern > prisoners like this, and humiliated them in all sorts of psycho-sexual ways. > Male prisoners are sexually abused more than we might believe. It is true, > alas, that such abuse is more common on women. But again, in this case, I > think the portrayal was realistic in the context of the movie. > Well said! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrianne Brennan" <adrianne.bren...@gmail.com> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:45:44 PM > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye > > > > Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, > which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... > > It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario? > Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to do > if he captures her is precisely that, because it's a matter of power and > asserting said power. Is it ugly? Is it violence against women? Yes. But > it's a reflection of our culture. > > One can argue what's the reflection of our culture versus our culture being > influenced by movies like this but once again...depends on how it's done. If > it glorifies it and makes her oh-so-sexy while it's going on...then I have > VERY serious problems with it. Otherwise you're looking at a realistic > portrayal of the sort of circumstances an actual woman would face under such > conditions. > > There ya go, my $0.02 worth. > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon > Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
