I'm not, actually. :( I just tried to give it a chance and had hoped things had gotten better since the first ep...but they clearly haven't.
~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Kelwyn <ravena...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Why, pray tell, are you still watching? It is not a crime to sit out this > Doctor. Several on this list have already vowed to do so. > > ~rave? > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan <adrianne.bren...@...> > wrote: > > > > I just think the whole storyline was an awful, incoherent mess. For > > starters, the huuuuuge contradicting of time rules already established > > (Father's Day, anyone?) and I absolutely can't stand River Song. I wish > when > > they killed off her char she stayed dead; she annoys me that much. The > "I'm > > awesome cause I say so" is old, tiring, and irritating. For once I'd like > a > > strong woman created by Moffat who didn't come off as a shrill, annoying > > b*tch, but I don't think that's likely to happen. Women in Moffat's DW > > stories are either boy-crazy and/or only important in marriage and > > procreation. > > > > Amy I see has gained an additional facial expression to make a total of > > three. So much for character development. > > > > Rory is actually pretty good; I wish he had been the sole companion or > > Amelia as a child who actually was a good actress and came off as being > > really interesting. Moffat as usual has no problems making male > characters; > > the female he still has trouble with without doing some bizarrely sexist > > crap. > > > > The fez scene (no spoilers) was awesome and actually made me laugh. I > think > > it was one of the few moments I wasn't staring at the screen wondering > how > > people were continuing to watch this show and call it Doctor Who. > > > > I'm sorry and no offense intended for people who enjoyed it; I just can't > > understand why you did. > > > > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon > > Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I do, Mr Worf. That changed at the end when Rory was unmade by the > Crack in > > > Time. Though it should have been remade when Rory was redone... time > travel. > > > Used to love it, but now it gives me migraines. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> Another thing that kind of bugged me was in the episode where they > visited > > >> the mining company. Out in the distance, they see Amy Pond and her > fiance > > >> waving. Anyone remember that? > > >> > > >> I did enjoy the conclusion of Padorica Opens when the Doctor bounced > back > > >> and forth in time. > > >> > > >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Kelwyn <ravena...@...> wrote: > > >> > > >>> What I liked about "The Pandorica Opens" episode is that it supposes > a > > >>> time loop reality where Amy Pond "creates" the Doctor. In essence, > by > > >>> following various notes and clues left for her, she had trained all > her life > > >>> to be his companion. > > >>> > > >>> Also, in essence, everything that happens in the eleventh Doctor's > arc, > > >>> has already happened and is being influenced by events that take > place in > > >>> the future and two thousand years ago. > > >>> > > >>> ~rave! > > >>> > > >>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <HelloMahogany@> > wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > Does anyone get the feeling that Amy Pond knows too much? She > answers a > > >>> lot > > >>> > of questions before the doctor does. I don't think that is a > > >>> coincidence. > > >>> > > > >>> > Also, what about the doctor's former roommate? Allowing someone to > > >>> share his > > >>> > information could be a dangerous thing. > > >>> > > > >>> > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM, angelababycat <asrobinson@>wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > Who was it (Martin?) that said you dance with the Doctor who > brought > > >>> you to > > >>> > > the party? Tenant was my favorite because I never watched DW > > >>> regularly > > >>> > > until I joined this group last year and noticed all the buzz > about > > >>> > > show...taped all the eps in the 2-day New Years marathon, so > that's > > >>> what I > > >>> > > know. Martha was a little love-struck, but is still my fav > > >>> companion, and > > >>> > > Donna would be 2nd because she had the tough sensibillity of a > mature > > >>> woman. > > >>> > > The current Dr. doesn't do much for me and neither does Amy > Pond. > > >>> Maybe > > >>> > > I'll just be one of those one-doctor Dr. Who fans, but I'll stick > > >>> with it > > >>> > > for now. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > If you like River Song, Alex plays the character very similarly > to > > >>> her role > > >>> > > in Moll Flanders, which was on PBS, BBC or something in the mid > 90's. > > >>> It > > >>> > > must be the type of character she likes best, because I never > really > > >>> got > > >>> > > into any of her other roles. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Angela > > >>> > > > > >>> > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ > > > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Was the original concept of the Doctor always intended to be > this, > > >>> that > > >>> > > the character would change so new actors could bring different > > >>> aspects of > > >>> > > his personality to the fore? I ask because it's always a > fascinating > > >>> > > discussion to see which Doctor we like--which says more about us > than > > >>> the > > >>> > > Doctor. For example, I still prefer Eccleston for the very > reasons > > >>> you > > >>> > > mentioned: he was tough (I'd say, rather than "rough"), world and > > >>> war-weary, > > >>> > > but trying to shake off his ghosts. For some reason I really > liked > > >>> that. > > >>> > > Tennant was great, but I liked Eccleston's hard edge better. > > >>> > > > And I like Donna more than Martha because Donna was tougher, > giving > > >>> as > > >>> > > good as the Doctor gave. Martha to me was way too much of a > > >>> lovestruck > > >>> > > puppy, and seemed to have fallen for the Doctor too hard and too > > >>> fast. > > >>> > > Something about that irritated me. I like that Donna would call > his > > >>> BS in a > > >>> > > second. I am glad, though, that at Tennant's "death", they > revealed > > >>> that > > >>> > > Martha married Mickey, who had been too long cuckolded by on > > >>> again/off again > > >>> > > girlfriend Rose Tyler's love for the Doctor. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> > > > From: "Sammie A" <jazzynupe007@> > > >>> > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > >>> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2010 6:41:36 PM > > >>> > > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who finale > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I agree with everyone on this one. Matt is still kind of lost 2 > me > > >>> (i > > >>> > > think it's the long face and the too much, too big hair). River > Song > > >>> is > > >>> > > simply delicious! Cannot wait on the ep where the Doctor finally > > >>> knows her, > > >>> > > knows her....................and of course how she is going 2 > kill > > >>> him. Must > > >>> > > say, I really miss David Tennant. Wasn't really crazy about > > >>> Christopher > > >>> > > Eccleston....he was like Timothy Dalton's James Bond (not suave, > but > > >>> > > rough)...Eccleston was not really smarty, but rough. Tennant > embraced > > >>> the > > >>> > > 'whiz kid' role perfectly. Kind of like Tom Baker (the 4th > doctor) > > >>> did back > > >>> > > in my formative youth days. As for companions, Amy Pond is > > >>> soooooooooooooo > > >>> > > much better to me than that hideous Donna Noble (Catherine Tate). > > >>> Still say > > >>> > > my favorite companion is/was Martha Jones (Freeman Agyeman), but > > >>> that's just > > >>> > > my opinion. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Fate. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > --- On Sun, 8/8/10, Mike Street <streetforce1@> wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > From: Mike Street <streetforce1@> > > >>> > > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who finale > > >>> > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > >>> > > > Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 9:46 PM > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > The last 6 esp. did get much better but overall not the best > season > > >>> of > > >>> > > DW. I'm more interested in River Song's adventures and I think > she is > > >>> > > stealing the show from Matt Smith. I'm slightly hoping to do a > spin > > >>> off show > > >>> > > for River Song cause she is fun. She is going to eventually kill > the > > >>> Dr. but > > >>> > > I think they will give Matt Smith another season before they need > to > > >>> find a > > >>> > > new Dr. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:36 PM, < adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > She is? O_O Not in my book... > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > From: Charles < char...@sheehanmile s.net > > > >>> > > > Sender: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > >>> > > > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:31:17 -0500 > > >>> > > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com < scifino...@yahoogro ups.com> > > >>> > > > ReplyTo: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > >>> > > > Cc: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com < scifino...@yahoogro ups.com> > > >>> > > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who finale > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Was excellent. Not a huge fan of the new doctor, but his Amy > Pond > > >>> is a > > >>> > > well thought out, very interesting character, and the finale was > > >>> spectacular > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Sent from my iPhone > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > On Aug 8, 2010, at 4:25 PM, "Kelwyn" < ravena...@yahoo. com > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I just finished watching the penultimate and season finale of > the > > >>> new Dr. > > >>> > > Who. "The Pandorica Opens" is one of my favorite Dr. Who episodes > > >>> ever - I > > >>> > > love the way it and the succeeding episode tie up most of the > easter > > >>> eggs > > >>> > > scattered since "The Raggedy Doctor" episode. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > "The League of Evil" banning together to save humanity is good > > >>> stuff! > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > And Alex Kingston is priceless as Dr. River Song. I have never > been > > >>> an > > >>> > > Alex Kingston fan, but this is a perfect melding of actress and > role. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > The Sophie Okonedo cameo as Liz Ten (Queen Elizabeth the Tenth, > for > > >>> you > > >>> > > scoring at home) is a welcome surprise. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > It is a sincere sensation to see a sci-fi arc that was actually > > >>> > > pre-planned, well thought out and well executed (as opposed to > how > > >>> "X-Files" > > >>> > > and "Lost" did it - just to name two). > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > All this and a two-thousand year love story. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I loved it. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > ~rave! > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > -- > > >>> > > > Get Social and Follow Me: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Read my blog at http://BrandsGoSoci al.com > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Join me on Facebook > > >>> > > > http://facebook. com/mikestreet > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Follow me on Twitter > > >>> > > > Twitter: http://www.twitter. com/streetforce1 > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Join the Harlem NY Community > > >>> > > > http://www.facebook .com/harlemny > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > ------------------------------------ > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo > > >>> ! > > >>> > > Groups Links > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > -- > > >>> > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > > >>> > Mahogany at: > > >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > >>> > > >>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo > ! > > >>> Groups Links > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > > >> Mahogany at: > > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody > hell > > > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > >