So much for that. Vid's not up right now. I've bookmarked it, and will come back to it.
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks much, Mr Worf! About to pause the work to watch it now... > > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> They have shown it on a couple of shows. It was developed by a former >> astronaut. Here's a video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a7_1255323536 >> >> >> <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a7_1255323536> >> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> No, not yet. I'll keep an eye out for it. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Did you see the show where they debuted the plasma powered engine? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Keith Johnson < >>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ha-ha! I was watching one of the great science shows on cable recently. >>>>> I think it was "The Universe" on The History Channel. They had an ep on >>>>> deep >>>>> space probes and discussed ion powered ships. The program indicated >>>>> they're >>>>> getting better all the time, and that in the next ten - twenty years, we >>>>> may >>>>> be able to see a severalfold increase in the speed of probes using ion >>>>> power. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxt...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 6:15:36 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium >>>>> nuclear reactor >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Aside from the battery, I'm not seeing anything wrong with that idea... >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Keith Johnson < >>>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Somewhere in my old house in Fort Worth is a schematic of an ion drive >>>>>> I did in second grade, after watching an ep of "Star Trek" (had to be >>>>>> "Spock's Brain"), and reading about electrolytes in my encyclopedia set. >>>>>> I'd >>>>>> read about how cesium, when immersed in water, would produce ions in >>>>>> solution, and I'd read about theories for Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD), the >>>>>> idea of using fusion power to drive plasma as a source of motion. Then >>>>>> there >>>>>> was that Trek ep where they said the aliens who took Spock's brain used >>>>>> ion >>>>>> power, which Kirk said was even beyond Federation tech. So, sure that I'd >>>>>> stumbled on a major secret, I took pen to paper. I drew a cutaway of the >>>>>> Jupiter Two from Lost in Space. Inside was a giant water tank. Sitting >>>>>> next >>>>>> to the tank, like a coal scuttle on a stem locomotive, was a big pile of >>>>>> cesium bricks--just sitting there. Next to them were some crazy robot >>>>>> arms >>>>>> with gloved "hands" (think of all the robot extremities as depicted in >>>>>> old >>>>>> cartoons). The robot hands--two of them--would take turns dumping cesium >>>>>> bricks into the water tank. Attached to the tank was a big A battery and >>>>>> wiring so that the ions in solution could be driven to one side of the >>>>>> tank >>>>>> by the negative pole of the battery. 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