So much for that. Vid's not up right now. I've bookmarked it, and will come
back to it.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks much, Mr Worf! About to pause the work to watch it now...
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> They have shown it on a couple of shows. It was developed by a former
>> astronaut. Here's a video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a7_1255323536
>>
>>
>> <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a7_1255323536>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, not yet. I'll keep an eye out for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you see the show where they debuted the plasma powered engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Keith Johnson <
>>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha-ha! I was watching one of the great science shows on cable recently.
>>>>> I think it was "The Universe" on The History Channel. They had an ep on 
>>>>> deep
>>>>> space probes and discussed ion powered ships. The program indicated 
>>>>> they're
>>>>> getting better all the time, and that in the next ten - twenty years, we 
>>>>> may
>>>>> be able to see a severalfold increase in the speed of probes using ion
>>>>> power.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 6:15:36 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium
>>>>> nuclear reactor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aside from the battery, I'm not seeing anything wrong with that idea...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Keith Johnson <
>>>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somewhere in my old house in Fort Worth is a schematic of an ion drive
>>>>>> I did in second grade, after watching an ep of "Star Trek" (had to be
>>>>>> "Spock's Brain"), and reading about electrolytes in my encyclopedia set. 
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> read about how cesium, when immersed in water, would produce ions in
>>>>>> solution, and I'd read about theories for Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD), the
>>>>>> idea of using fusion power to drive plasma as a source of motion. Then 
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> was that Trek ep where they said the aliens who took Spock's brain used 
>>>>>> ion
>>>>>> power, which Kirk said was even beyond Federation tech. So, sure that I'd
>>>>>> stumbled on a major secret, I took pen to paper. I drew a cutaway of the
>>>>>> Jupiter Two from Lost in Space. Inside was  a giant water tank. Sitting 
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> to the tank, like a coal scuttle on a stem locomotive, was a big pile of
>>>>>> cesium bricks--just sitting there.  Next to them were some crazy robot 
>>>>>> arms
>>>>>> with gloved "hands" (think of all the robot extremities as depicted in 
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> cartoons).  The robot hands--two of them--would take turns dumping cesium
>>>>>> bricks into the water tank. Attached to the tank was a big A battery and
>>>>>> wiring so that the ions in solution could be driven to one side of the 
>>>>>> tank
>>>>>> by the negative pole of the battery. I then had what was for all the 
>>>>>> world a
>>>>>> tailpipe sticking out the side of the ship, through which the electrons
>>>>>> would shoot into space.
>>>>>> Of course, my eight year old self was certain I'd just solved the
>>>>>> problem of both ion drive and FTL travel. To this day I remember how 
>>>>>> excited
>>>>>> I was at what I thought I'd created!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 4:02:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium
>>>>>> nuclear reactor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The truly futuristic stuff is starting to appear. Once people
>>>>>> completely move away from the big government thinking on energy I think 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> flood gates will open with new ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Martin Baxter <
>>>>>> martinbaxt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Took them long enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of my college instructors had a similar thought back in the late
>>>>>>> 70s. A shame he's passed on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are details of the subcritical accelerator driven thorium
>>>>>>>> nuclear reactor designed by Nobel Laureate Carlo Rubbia. 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.feedblitz.com/t2.asp?/64651/17726256/0/http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/08/uk-telegraph-supports-new-thorium.html>This
>>>>>>>> reactor was given a supportive article by the UK Telegraph. It has been
>>>>>>>> extensively studied for over 15 years and is expected to have half the 
>>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>>> of existing light water reactors and burn up almost all of the nuclear 
>>>>>>>> fuel.
>>>>>>>> The Norwegian group Aker Solutions has bought Dr Rubbia’s patent for 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> thorium fuel-cycle, and is working on his design for a proton 
>>>>>>>> accelerator at
>>>>>>>> its UK operation. They are raising 100 million pounds ($150 million 
>>>>>>>> USD) for
>>>>>>>> the next stage of an estimated 2 billion pound ($3 billion USD) 
>>>>>>>> project to
>>>>>>>> develop the first commercial unit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
>>>>>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
>>>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>  
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>



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wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

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