Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama

2017-09-10 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

I heard stories and even used to talk to a guy who worked there.  Unfortunately 
a heart attack got him several years ago.
The "public" story was "Trillion Texas" purchased them, I believe. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rory Conaway 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 2:42 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama


  Trying to understand why they failed and lost their grant.  There were 
allegations that they spent money on things not allowed and that they were 
supposed to bring in matching funds that never materialized.  Just wanted to 
confirm that.

   

  Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO

  4226 S. 37th Street . Phoenix . AZ 85040

  602-426-0542

  r...@triadwireless.net

  www.triadwireless.net

   

  "A hot dog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz." - Humphrey Bogart

   


Re: [AFMUG] Ot: how to avoid this?

2017-09-10 Thread Steve Jones
I'm maybe just going to get some Reynolds wrap around the existing meter,
if they cut it send a 32k dollar invoice for cutting it?

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 3:49 PM,  wrote:

> I would go attempt to hang it back on the meter.  Perhaps make a new wire
> for it if it is the wire snap in type.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: how to avoid this?
>
> I bought this house something like 6 years ago, since the day I moved in
> the tamper tag has been laying on top of the meter. I don't think my meter
> has ever been read. Ill probably get in trouble when they show up for the
> tamper tag being broken. If I let them do it, I think I'm going to fill the
> box with rancid hit from the chicken
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:50 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Good luck getting the customer to refuse since ComEd will charge $10/mo
>> for manual meter reading, even though they've been doing estimated readings
>> for, I don't know, 2-3 years now.
>>
>> But wait, there's more! Even if you DO want it, you still pay an extra
>> $3/mo for this awesome new service that trashes the spectrum. Also for that
>> $3/mo, you get to be told that you're not green enough, you bad human.
>>
>> Yet Exelon and ComEd don't have "enough" money to improve the grid or
>> their stations. So they need gov't money, which we don't have.
>>
>> Oh but wait, you can buy your power from another "carrier" if you want.
>> What a crock of shit ponzi scheme.
>>
>> This entire state is fucked.
>>
>>
>> On 9/8/2017 4:19 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Isnt somebody on this list successfully refusing this because they cant
>>> guarantee it wont interfere or somehing like that?
>>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gig Sync injector - 320 wimax. - Jumpers?

2017-09-10 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Thanks for this, we were unsure and just replaced it with a 430/320 injector. 
Good to know we can do this by making a cable.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af  on behalf of "Forrest Christian (List Account)" 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Friday, September 8, 2017 at 9:54 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gig Sync injector - 320 wimax. - Jumpers?

With the 320 and 430 you have two options:

1) Buy a 10/100 injector, and re-jumper it.

2) Use a gigabit injector off the shelf with the cable described in the cambium 
manual.   The cable in the cambium manual is the one from a CMM4 to a 450i.   
Because we use 'normal' pinning on our gigabit injectors, the cable is not 
needed with the 450i, but is needed with the 320 and 430.

The reason for this is that the 320 and 430 do not use a standard pinning.  
Worse, the pinning is not compatible with gigabit powering schemes which all 
require the same polarity and voltage on both wires in the pair - the 320 and 
430 use a different polarity on each pair.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Andreas Wiatowski 
> wrote:
Do I need to do any special jumpering on the new GB injector to power Cambium 
320?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: how to avoid this?

2017-09-10 Thread chuck
I would go attempt to hang it back on the meter.  Perhaps make a new wire for 
it if it is the wire snap in type.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: how to avoid this?

I bought this house something like 6 years ago, since the day I moved in the 
tamper tag has been laying on top of the meter. I don't think my meter has ever 
been read. Ill probably get in trouble when they show up for the tamper tag 
being broken. If I let them do it, I think I'm going to fill the box with 
rancid hit from the chicken

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:50 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

  Good luck getting the customer to refuse since ComEd will charge $10/mo for 
manual meter reading, even though they've been doing estimated readings for, I 
don't know, 2-3 years now.

  But wait, there's more! Even if you DO want it, you still pay an extra $3/mo 
for this awesome new service that trashes the spectrum. Also for that $3/mo, 
you get to be told that you're not green enough, you bad human.

  Yet Exelon and ComEd don't have "enough" money to improve the grid or their 
stations. So they need gov't money, which we don't have.

  Oh but wait, you can buy your power from another "carrier" if you want. What 
a crock of shit ponzi scheme.

  This entire state is fucked. 


  On 9/8/2017 4:19 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Isnt somebody on this list successfully refusing this because they cant 
guarantee it wont interfere or somehing like that?





[AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama

2017-09-10 Thread Rory Conaway
Trying to understand why they failed and lost their grant.  There were 
allegations that they spent money on things not allowed and that they were 
supposed to bring in matching funds that never materialized.  Just wanted to 
confirm that.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"A hot dog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz." - Humphrey Bogart



Re: [AFMUG] Ot: how to avoid this?

2017-09-10 Thread Bill Prince
I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted. Then again, most of the 
smart meters out here don't work because they are too far apart from 
each other to create a mesh.



bp


On 9/10/2017 9:48 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
ive seen companies selling those, is that legal?, I mean its my 
property, I cant see they have any authority


On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Bill Prince > wrote:


You can also put a Faraday cage around the alleged smart meter.


bp


On 9/10/2017 9:23 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

I bought this house something like 6 years ago, since the day I
moved in the tamper tag has been laying on top of the meter. I
don't think my meter has ever been read. Ill probably get in
trouble when they show up for the tamper tag being broken. If I
let them do it, I think I'm going to fill the box with rancid hit
from the chicken

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:50 PM, George Skorup
> wrote:

Good luck getting the customer to refuse since ComEd will
charge $10/mo for manual meter reading, even though they've
been doing estimated readings for, I don't know, 2-3 years now.

But wait, there's more! Even if you DO want it, you still pay
an extra $3/mo for this awesome new service that trashes the
spectrum. Also for that $3/mo, you get to be told that you're
not green enough, you bad human.

Yet Exelon and ComEd don't have "enough" money to improve the
grid or their stations. So they need gov't money, which we
don't have.

Oh but wait, you can buy your power from another "carrier" if
you want. What a crock of shit ponzi scheme.

This entire state is fucked.


On 9/8/2017 4:19 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Isnt somebody on this list successfully refusing this
because they cant guarantee it wont interfere or somehing
like that?










Re: [AFMUG] Ot: how to avoid this?

2017-09-10 Thread Steve Jones
ive seen companies selling those, is that legal?, I mean its my property, I
cant see they have any authority

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> You can also put a Faraday cage around the alleged smart meter.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 9/10/2017 9:23 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I bought this house something like 6 years ago, since the day I moved in
> the tamper tag has been laying on top of the meter. I don't think my meter
> has ever been read. Ill probably get in trouble when they show up for the
> tamper tag being broken. If I let them do it, I think I'm going to fill the
> box with rancid hit from the chicken
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:50 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Good luck getting the customer to refuse since ComEd will charge $10/mo
>> for manual meter reading, even though they've been doing estimated readings
>> for, I don't know, 2-3 years now.
>>
>> But wait, there's more! Even if you DO want it, you still pay an extra
>> $3/mo for this awesome new service that trashes the spectrum. Also for that
>> $3/mo, you get to be told that you're not green enough, you bad human.
>>
>> Yet Exelon and ComEd don't have "enough" money to improve the grid or
>> their stations. So they need gov't money, which we don't have.
>>
>> Oh but wait, you can buy your power from another "carrier" if you want.
>> What a crock of shit ponzi scheme.
>>
>> This entire state is fucked.
>>
>>
>> On 9/8/2017 4:19 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Isnt somebody on this list successfully refusing this because they cant
>>> guarantee it wont interfere or somehing like that?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Ot: how to avoid this?

2017-09-10 Thread Bill Prince

You can also put a Faraday cage around the alleged smart meter.


bp


On 9/10/2017 9:23 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
I bought this house something like 6 years ago, since the day I moved 
in the tamper tag has been laying on top of the meter. I don't think 
my meter has ever been read. Ill probably get in trouble when they 
show up for the tamper tag being broken. If I let them do it, I think 
I'm going to fill the box with rancid hit from the chicken


On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:50 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:


Good luck getting the customer to refuse since ComEd will charge
$10/mo for manual meter reading, even though they've been doing
estimated readings for, I don't know, 2-3 years now.

But wait, there's more! Even if you DO want it, you still pay an
extra $3/mo for this awesome new service that trashes the
spectrum. Also for that $3/mo, you get to be told that you're not
green enough, you bad human.

Yet Exelon and ComEd don't have "enough" money to improve the grid
or their stations. So they need gov't money, which we don't have.

Oh but wait, you can buy your power from another "carrier" if you
want. What a crock of shit ponzi scheme.

This entire state is fucked.


On 9/8/2017 4:19 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Isnt somebody on this list successfully refusing this because
they cant guarantee it wont interfere or somehing like that?







Re: [AFMUG] Ot: how to avoid this?

2017-09-10 Thread Steve Jones
I bought this house something like 6 years ago, since the day I moved in
the tamper tag has been laying on top of the meter. I don't think my meter
has ever been read. Ill probably get in trouble when they show up for the
tamper tag being broken. If I let them do it, I think I'm going to fill the
box with rancid hit from the chicken

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:50 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Good luck getting the customer to refuse since ComEd will charge $10/mo
> for manual meter reading, even though they've been doing estimated readings
> for, I don't know, 2-3 years now.
>
> But wait, there's more! Even if you DO want it, you still pay an extra
> $3/mo for this awesome new service that trashes the spectrum. Also for that
> $3/mo, you get to be told that you're not green enough, you bad human.
>
> Yet Exelon and ComEd don't have "enough" money to improve the grid or
> their stations. So they need gov't money, which we don't have.
>
> Oh but wait, you can buy your power from another "carrier" if you want.
> What a crock of shit ponzi scheme.
>
> This entire state is fucked.
>
>
> On 9/8/2017 4:19 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
>> Isnt somebody on this list successfully refusing this because they cant
>> guarantee it wont interfere or somehing like that?
>>
>
>