Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

[Matt Hardy]

Yeah!

https://www.facebook.com/lukemillionmusic/videos/1174347985939829/



On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> I'm watching it right now with my wife. It's fantastic so far. As a kid
> from 81, it seems very homey to me :) Oh, and the soundtrack is amazing!
>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> We binge watched Stranger Things... Very rare thing for me... I like the
>> Tunnel on PBS Sunday Nights...
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2016 7:48 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>>
>>> And a prehensile tail.
>>>
>>> [image: spider_monkey]
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2016 11:34 PM
>>> *To:* af 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
>>>
>>> I wish I had four thumbs... I think.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Hunt for the Wilderepeople.

 4 thumbs up!

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT AF-2X Problems... Where Do You Go For Help?

[Matt Hardy]

Hey Chris,
Sorry about this. I'll check with the team and see why you haven't been
able to get in touch with anyone...

We'll follow up shortly.

Thanks,
Matt

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Christopher Gray <
cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote:

> I've had an open ticket about the AF-2X for over a month. I have not been
> able to actually work with anyone on the issue. It has been "escalated" but
> without any positive results.
>
> Is there a better way to talk to someone about the airFiber?
>
> The spec sheet says a US AF-2X has a maximum Tx power of 30 dBm... but it
> only goes up to 24 dBm. [I'm running an 18 dBi dish on one end with long
> cables, and I need the additional 3 dB Tx power). When changing channel
> width, the Rx power does not change (Rx power is usually measured in
> dBm/20Hz on most UBNT hardware, so power usually goes up 3 dB when halving
> the bandwidth, but I can't get a straight answer as to whether they use the
> same units on the AF line).
>
> Long story short, I'm going to have to get rid of this AF-2X hardware and
> switch back to ePMP. The AF-2X would be the better choice if I could get
> the power levels I need to make this link work. I would much rather solve
> the AF problems..
>
> -Chris
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

[Matt Hardy]

Gino, we learn about our new products from you here on the list ;)

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:

> Any announcements?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti and VLAN Tags

[Matt Hardy]

If they're set up as simple bridges (with WDS enabled), they should pass
all Ethernet traffic (including any VLAN tags) transparently...

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Matt  wrote:

> Couple years back setup several Ubiquiti NSM5's to bridge several
> buildings to together.  One set as AP bridge and couple others as
> slaves.  After upgrading firmware and setting defaults put in very
> simple settings of WPA2, passwords, etc.  Recently they added some new
> gear to there network.  Is there any reason they would strip off VLAN
> tags?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Movie Review: Muscle Shoals

[Matt Hardy]

I also grew up in the Huntsville area and have a lot of family in the
Florence / Russellville area!

Haven't seen the movie yet, but it's on my list...

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Jerry Head 
wrote:

> It is a pretty nice place, not too far from me or the 2 Jays.
> Oh and yes some pretty good musicians have passed through there.
>
> On 2/14/2016 11:02 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> +1
>
> *From:* Bill Prince 
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 9:50 AM
> *To:* Motorola III 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Movie Review: Muscle Shoals
>
>
> We watched *Muscle Shoals* on Netflix last night. It's the story about a
> tiny town in Alabama where a remarkable amount of popular music originated
> at a little place called Fame Studios. The story was great, the music was
> greater, and some of the videography was outstanding. We gave it 5 stars.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2492916/
>
>
> --
>
> bp
> 
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] the new airlink

[Matt Hardy]

Right now it's using the elevation data from the Google Maps API. So it's
probably not going to include everything yet. There have been some
discussions on adding terrain / clutter data to the calculations though...

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> Not sure where the terrain data is from though, I have yet to get it to
> show me a NLOS link, even on paths that I know are NLOS.  And it would be
> great if there was a way to add a 'blanket' foliage to the path.  Like take
> Ground elevation +60 ft, and show me that path.  Oh, and Call me an
> Imperialist, but I'd like to see a M/ft Toggle.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2015 12:01 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>
> Yeah! It’s like it isn’t 1999 anymore or something.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:07 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] the new airlink
>
>
>
> https://airlink.ubnt.com/#/
>
>
>
> wow, this one is very elegant compared to the last one. Its simple and
> quich and i didnt have to install some broken browser addon
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fulton County, GA discovers new and amazing 3000+km MW path

[Matt Hardy]

I live in Fulton County! Lots of magical things happen here ;)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> From the FCC ULS...
>
> Nice path, I guess?
>
> Attached image.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

[Matt Hardy]

+1

:)

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Brett A Mansfield 
li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote:

 I had/have that concern as well. But it is mind boggling to me that so
 many people are complaining about ubiquiti putting in this value added
 feature (quite well I may add). I have never seen so many complaints about
 features being added. Shouldn't we instead complain about the needed
 features their products are missing?

 Complaining about ubiquiti adding in DPI, even if it sucked, is like
 complaining that you get a dozen free games when you buy an XBox One. You
 may not like the games you get, but they are free and you don't have to
 play them if you don't want.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

 On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I think the thought is that DPI is a very intensive process and if the
 router wasn't designed with enormous overhead or hardware acceleration, it
 could be crippling. Maybe those routers were...



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 --
 *From: *Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, July 24, 2015 7:50:02 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

 I don't know why anyone would have a problem with them putting this on
 existing routers. If you don't like their routers, don't buy them. If you
 do like their routers but think a feature shouldn't be there, don't enable
 it.

 I think it's great that ubiquiti innovates the way they do. They have some
 great products that blow other products out of the water in one way or
 another. And it's forced other companies to lower their seriously over
 priced equipment and to rethink their strategies. Ubiquiti really is
 disrupting things in the industry in only good ways.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:17 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 Well it will be interesting … sure would be nice to see someone “disrupt”
 I agree … but there have been lots of folks try to provide “DPI” and fail
 badly as they didn’t really understand what they were getting into… and
 doing it on existing routers is usually the first mistake in my opinion…..





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
 *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 1:27 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?



 They've got the resources to do it, would be nice to see someone undercut
 the existing players.

 On Thursday, July 23, 2015, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 I have no idea but if it’s like other attempts I’ve seen from companies to
 stack heavy CPU “stuff” into a router, then stability and any type of
 scaling would be first concerns.  DPI is a very complex item to see someone
 like Ubiquiti jump into in my opinion…



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:13 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?



 Ok, so now that deep packet inspection has been announced I'd assume any
 NDAs have been lifted.  Have any of you been using this?  Any idea what
 type of latency is added?  That pricing model is a whole lot different from
 any DPI tool that I have ever seen

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

[Matt Hardy]

I haven't had any issues in our deep-south office ;)

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Are they all west coast testers?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jul 23, 2015 8:33 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 OK Thanks.  Please let us know if you test again and any issues.  The
 beta customers and customers that have been using since have been happy
 (have not heard of other complaints).

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
 li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote:

 It was not beta. It was the day 1.7.0 was GA. It is possible that it was
 not the DPI, but it's been stable since I shut off DPI. I never contacted
 support because I've been too busy and DPI is a luxury to me, not a
 necessity.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Hi Brett -

 Was this while in beta?  What did support have to say with issue?

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
 li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote:

 I had dpi running for one day in my ER Pro 8 and it panicked in less
 that 24 hours. I turned it off and it's been good since.

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Ok, so now that deep packet inspection has been announced I'd assume
 any NDAs have been lifted.  Have any of you been using this?  Any idea what
 type of latency is added?  That pricing model is a whole lot different from
 any DPI tool that I have ever seen

Re: [AFMUG] Completely OT, but I figure there's some people here into BBQ..

[Matt Hardy]

I have the Big Green Egg and love it. I've smoked pulled pork a few times
for 12+ hours.

There are other similar ceramic grill/smokers (Primo, Komodo, etc), but the
Egg has a big community and lots of egg'cessories ;)

They're pretty big in the south (started in Atlanta), but people from other
areas aren't too familiar with them.

Maybe not as good as Chuck's $9k smoker though ;) Mmmm, meat

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 A friend of mine is pretty big into smoking and he likes that egg thing.
 Says it is easier to maintain a constant temp.
 I myself have an oven. I set the temp and it just stays there. To each his
 own.

 On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, 10:15 AM Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I am currently working on a smoker that is similar to ones that sell for
 about $9K.  I will tell you how it turns out...

 -Original Message-
 From: Simon Westlake
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 9:59 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Completely OT,but I figure there's some people here into
 BBQ..

 I've been into smoking for a while, been smoking ribs, sausage and
 chicken on a cheapo, thin, Home Depot smoker for a few years. They turn
 out pretty good, but it's an all day affair of babysitting and hoping
 the weather is OK.

 I've been looking at some higher end smokers for a while and I'm torn
 between something like
 http://www.yodersmokers.com/ys640-pellet-grill.html and
 http://www.ssomd.com/backwoods-smoker-chubby, the biggest differences
 between them being one uses pellets and one is charcoal.

 I've always used charcoal but the convenience of the pellet smoker is
 pretty appealing to me as well. I've been reading reviews online and
 I've had a hard time finding info that seems unbiased, there's a lot of
 people against pellets on principle and a lot of people for them purely
 for convenience. Most of the BBQ forums are pretty religious places (in
 terms of their preferences.)

 The other problem is that, even if I pick one, there's tons and tons of
 manufacturers out there, and if I'm even going to remotely consider
 spending $1K+ on a smoker, I want it to be the best. So, anyone out
 there with experience with any of these types of units?

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

[Matt Hardy]

Hey TJ,
This isn't a known issue... what software version are you using?

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:33 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 forums seem to confirm that no one has ever done better than 30 except
 with a Mac doing 3x3
 On Jul 8, 2015 1:32 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 flawless at 30mbps.
 On Jul 8, 2015 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 A friend of mine installed a couple in an old theater for a TED or some
 other high-nerd level event. Performed flawlessly.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:15:54 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

 just installed some unifi uap-ac s and they perform terrible. max 30mbps
 when the label reads 1750 mbps, anyone else have similar results ?

Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..

[Matt Hardy]

There is some beta firmware available, but you'll have to use the un-char
activation code to unlock this feature ;)

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Try upgrading the firmware.  Surely there’s beta firmware that fixes
 fire and water damage.

  *From:* Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2015 12:04 PM
 *To:* af af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam
 packaging..

  They were just trying to make it easier for you to unpack them... :P

 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 LOL!!!  I'm certainly glad you didn't blindly accept the shipment.  How
 daft can some possibly get?!


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

  On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 wrote:

   At some point during shipping, the entire palette caught on fire. The
 exterior cardboard boxes mostly burned away, and some of the interior white
 boxes were partly burned. There was also water damage indicating someone
 put the fire out. Then, post burning and water, they re-wrapped the pallet
 and attempted to deliver it. Pretty ballsy that the shipping company
 thought it was ‘OK’ and that we would accept delivery in this condition.
 Given that the entire thing was on fire, there is no telling how hot of an
 environment these were in and what short or long term damage was done to
 the electronics.




 *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com




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Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

[Matt Hardy]

Amazon AWS offers a free tier you can use to get started, and it's pretty
inexpensive after that:
http://aws.amazon.com/free/



On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:01 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 i need a host too, should have clarified that
 The guy I replaced is a webdude now, He does good work but starts at 1500
 bucks. If I had a true company, with legitimate income potential I would
 invest in it.
 This month Ill make about a grand, this is a good month for side work,
 some month its 0, so a website for a side gig would take a long time to
 recoup 1500 bucks on.

 but on the same note, I test for our department of corrections system next
 month. I dont want to work there, so i have to grow before the interview, I
 have too many ins not to get hired.

 The good thing about living in a state that locks everybody up is
 babysitting them pays well

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
 li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote:

 My brother made my site. He doesn't charge much and does a pretty good
 job. He did it really fast too. Had it live in 1 day after ordering. I only
 paid $200. I'm sure he'd use it as a template for you and just alter it to
 what you need for the same price.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 so whats the easiest thing to do. Not looking to spend any dough of
 substance, maybe worth 50 bucks a year

 I want to make a cheap website, pretty flat, a page describing the
 company and services offered, a link to remote support, even team viewer, a
 contact us page, maybe some product and a way to pay for it. pretty simple,
 maybe some downloads. I dont want to know anything about web designe, I
 have dreamweaver and dont want to even learn it. other than product, the
 site really wouldnt change other than maybe a promotion.

 I have the domain on google domains (i really like it because its dirt
 cheap and has dynamic dns, and its not godaddy)

 I was dicking around with a couple free hosts/builders, but apparently
 cookies or something on these dont show me the bazillion popups to awesome
 malware

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




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 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

[Matt Hardy]

Eh?
https://www.facebook.com/ubiquiti/photos/pb.140563119297621.-220752.1434137835./481983171822279

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 First unlicensed link in space???  First unlicensed link on the moon!!!
 Please Ubnt.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

 Jaime Solorza
 On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.

 Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the XR5
 routerboards???


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link
 has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R),
 and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, 
 using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that
 area with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something
 that long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

[Matt Hardy]

I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has
 been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and
 Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had
 something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had
 links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

[Matt Hardy]

They were using Ubiquiti radios for Google Loon project, does that count ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 *nods* I remember the Alvarion one, but that's cheating.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:33:58 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

 Jaime Solorza
 On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.

 Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the XR5
 routerboards???


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link
 has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R),
 and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

[Matt Hardy]

Technically, the support files said

  status: slave-registering
 rxpower0: -66
 rxpower1: -77
   rxcapacity: 3840

In most cases, this kind of chain imbalance means alignment or bad pigtail.
We know Josh Luthman knows how to align radios ;), so still waiting to see
if replacing it with a spare fixes it.
If it does, this would be the first case we've heard about w/ these
symptoms, and thousands have been installed successfully, with great
feedback.

Either way, let us know what you find...

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Support files said the slave heard the master at -66.  Doubt it.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 8:13 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   New EIRP rules biting you in the ass?

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links


 EPTP mode fills the latency fix.

 My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register.  I'm trying to
 replace Rockets that link up at -66.  I'm told that there's a path issue or
 bad radio.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 7:45 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

 Why exactly? Just asking. I'm wondering if we should be doing cheap PTP
 with ePMP or AF5x. I have several Force110 links up (just SMs, not PTP)
 operating all across the 5GHz bands. And one 10 mile link with Laird 2'
 dishes using connectorized non-GPS radios. Other than some oddities like
 intermittent increases in latency, they have all been working very well.
 Most are still running 2.3.3 and I don't want to touch them because they're
 working just fine. I'm leaning towards the Force110 PTP radios and whatever
 antennas required for new links since it fits with all the other Canopy and
 ePMP stuff (power injection, etc). But the AFs sure are nice when you can
 do FDD (except the 5X!) and get very low latency like licensed.

 On 6/11/2015 6:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Honestly I think they're better than AF5x at this point.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 7:25 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got 2 links ready to deploy  just sitting the office waiting to go up
 on the tower
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Uhm...I guess?  It hears noise better than Ubnt for sure.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 6:23 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Does the force auto select a clean frequency?
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from
 walmart in put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You mean connectorized?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput

Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

[Matt Hardy]

Where are the Bama tailgate signs? :-D

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:

 Just the Cyber Broadband staff and I doing a little tailgating on a
 pleasant weekend.

 Ty Featherling wrote:

 I wish I thought of that. That is funny right there!

 -Ty

 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com mailto:
 cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

 For the runners...or hicks.

 https://www.facebook.com/april.w.cantrell/videos/10206686083061600/

Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI

[Matt Hardy]

Hi Paul,
Let me know if you want to send a ticket number over and I'll have our guys
follow up and/or escalate if necessary.

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 Well you haven’t provided any good reasons …. I’ve never used
 Ruckus/Xirrus to be honest and we don’t have the luxury of “trial and
 error” with products we’ve never used – so the reasons would be to be quite
 compelling.  Always open to ideas …



 Ben – you asked if we had contacted support… short answer is yes but I
 don’t have the details as it’s handled by another group….



 Thanks,

 Paul





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:13 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI



 Then you want Ruckus\Xirrus, not Cisco.



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 *From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:21:28 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI

 We have Unifi (non AC) version in our offices and it sucks … working on a
 plan to migrate to Cisco probably – complete opposite ;)



 When the system is working well, it’s not bad at all but it doesn’t seem
 to deal with outside interference very well and often slows down to a
 snails pace.  It also doesn’t handle video and voice very well most of the
 time despite traffic prioritization.  I’d take a guess at around 120 users
 during the day and 30-40 users off hours (we run 24X7).



 Also found the Unifi stuff doesn’t handle AP handoff very well at all …
 not even sure if it’s supported in the specs come to think of it.. I’ve
 read the latest generation has “seamless handoff’ though….



 I’ve deployed Cisco before and it’s definitely quite a bit more in cost
 but for our application, cost is secondary compared to
 performance/stability.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:49 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI



 Our local rez replaced all their Cisco gear and controllers with Ubiquiti
 AC Dual Band UniFi and software.   Speeds and performance much better and
 easy to manage.  The casino waitresses love the pos at customers tables and
 security knows where they are at all times.  Used at both Speaking Rock and
 Socorro Entertainment Center..I installed two AC UniFi APs months ago for
 cattle association.  Not one call...ave 75 to 150 users a day

 Jaime Solorza

 On May 26, 2015 5:17 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote:

 Got a 110' tower that belongs to a large campground that we are using as a
 tower site.  Using Mimosa links to the tower and have 500+ MB of bandwidth
 available to this tower.  The campground area is about 110 acres and about
 1/2 of that has camp sites that we want to be able to provide paid by the X
 WIFI service.  UBNT has a billing platform that I think integrates with
 their equipment and I will gladly use their equipment but I dont want to
 recreate the wheel here.  This is not in my normal course of business but
 the campground owner wants it and I think there is a lot of potential here
 all be it seasonally.Is the UBNT software good stuff?  What are your
 recommendations to type of AP's / Antennas / for such a setup.   What is
 the best way to market this type of service?  Free for basic minimal
 speeds? then sell a higher rate if they want it.  Or Just bill for anything
 one lower package and one higher package?  Has anyone on the list tried
 this at a campground and if so what mistakes did you make and what did you
 end up using?   Ive made enough mistakes in the past with other stuff.  I
 have learned to ask you guys on stuff I'm not familiar with .

 Craig

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket m5

[Matt Hardy]

My first thought was some kind of subnet issue. Maybe mask was set
incorrectly on radio... discovery tool would work even if on wrong subnet.

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Can you ping it from the gateway router?  Usually when I have that
 problem, I forgot to set the gateway on the radio, remote fix is SSH into
 it from router and set gateway from CLI, then set it from the GUI and save.


  *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2015 6:53 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket m5


 Nope...6 other AP/BHs same site.   Thinking of replacing it on Saturday.
 Its a mountain site

 Jaime Solorza
 On May 27, 2015 5:50 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 Firewall rules somewhere???

 On Wednesday, May 27, 2015, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Have one rocket m5 with sector I can locate via ubnt utility but cant
 access via browser telnet or respond to ping.   Passing traffic fine.
 5.5.10 fw. We can reboot it via toughswitch.  Ideas?

 Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Come on Unbt! (AF-5X)

[Matt Hardy]

It's funny you guys are joking about that, because we have been getting
fake stories ;)

Some have even copied screenshots from other sections, haha...

Probably Luthman?

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Nate, the contest is for a fictional If I had an AF5X story. The winner
 may get radios to make their wish happen.
 On May 20, 2015 10:35 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  I got a note from Ubnt about a contest to 'Share your AF-5X story, and
 win a pair of radios'  I would love to submit a story *!! IF I COULD
 GET RADIOS !!*

 Get them into distribution before you start having contests  I have a
 standing order with my distributor, but they say they have no idea when
 they'll be getting more radios to fill it.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Re: Come on Unbt! (AF-5X)

[Matt Hardy]

Haha, I don't know... if you have some good photos of the install, you'd
have a good shot!

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, I think they want somewhat true stories...

 I would submit one, but I don't think climbed up towers, plugged radios
 in and they worked like they were supposed to is going to win me
 anything...

 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc 
 t...@franklinisp.net wrote:

 I can write you a beautiful story.  What do you want it to say?  It will
 be your best seller with pictures and content that make RF geeks wet.  Oh I
 probably should keep the details secret!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 20, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote:

 It's funny you guys are joking about that, because we have been getting
 fake stories ;)

 Some have even copied screenshots from other sections, haha...

 Probably Luthman?

 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Nate, the contest is for a fictional If I had an AF5X story. The
 winner may get radios to make their wish happen.
 On May 20, 2015 10:35 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  I got a note from Ubnt about a contest to 'Share your AF-5X story, and
 win a pair of radios'  I would love to submit a story *!! IF I
 COULD GET RADIOS !!*

 Get them into distribution before you start having contests  I have
 a standing order with my distributor, but they say they have no idea when
 they'll be getting more radios to fill it.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AirRouter firmware

[Matt Hardy]

If you ever need a specific version, you can email supp...@ubnt.com and
they'll send it to you.

We generally only post the latest on our downloads section now, due to
security updates, etc. Let me know which version you need, and can send to
you if someone else hasn't already.

-Matt

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 I have:

 02/13/2012  02:33 PM 6,842,240 XM-v5.3.5.build11245.bin
 02/13/2012  02:33 PM 5,920,078 XM-v5.4.5.build11242.bin
 03/15/2013  11:42 AM 6,896,741 XM-v5.5.4.build16501.bin
 06/04/2013  02:57 PM 6,896,765 XM-v5.5.6.build17762.bin
 01/23/2014  01:34 PM 6,896,682 XM-v5.5.8.build20795.bin
 03/06/2014  10:14 AM 6,896,830 XM-v5.5.8.build20991.bin
 04/10/2012  12:34 PM 6,472,831 XM-v5.5.build12536.bin
 11/28/2014  07:52 PM 6,896,723 XM.v5.5.10.24241.141001.1649.bin


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net
 wrote:

  If you can't find an archive to download from let me know. I've got
 quite a bit of old firmware.



 - Original Message -
 *From:* CARL PETERSON cpeter...@portnetworks.com
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2015 1:37 PM
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] AirRouter firmware

 Does anyone have standard UBNT Airrouter firmware they can send me?
 Something after XM.v5.5.2 but before 5.5.8.  I’,m getting a bad image
 message when trying to update.  Looking for something intermediate.

 Thanks,

  Carl Peterson
 *PORT NETWORKS*
 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
 Baltimore, MD 21202
 (410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] using airview in the latest crome

[Matt Hardy]

We're definitely getting away from anything java client side... as you may
have noticed, new products have HTML5 version of AirView.

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Java sucks.  It continues to suck.  STOP USING IT!  How hard can it be to
 write your own HTML5 page to replicate the applet?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On May 14, 2015 9:37 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com
 wrote:

 ya its a pain



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Vince West
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:46 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] using airview in the latest crome



 I struggled with this for an hour. I didn't know it was anything to do
 with Chrome. It worked in IE much to my surprise.

 Another tech found it online. It was rather annoying for 10 minutes.

 On May 13, 2015 9:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 1. Open Chrome and browse to chrome://flags/#enable-npapi

 2. Click the Enable NPAPI setting.



 Then add the ip of the radio to java trusted sites



 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 weird issue

[Matt Hardy]

That's correct...  Sync only matters when you're synchronizing transmit,
then synchronizing receive. In Full-Duplex, there's nothing to sync, as
both sides are transmitting and receiving 100% of the time :)

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:18 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

  I believe Chuck said GPS does nothing in FDD mode. It's really only for
 TDD synchronization. Obviously with FDD you're always transmitting and
 receiving simultaneously.

 I would run the co-located radios as masters on the same Tx freq. That's
 really the only way it's going to work anyway. 15 degrees may not be enough
 separation in azimuth. Maybe turning the power down on the shorter link
 would do it.

 On 5/13/2015 8:09 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:

  Full duplex…
   --


   From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
 Reply-To: af@afmug.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 9:08 PM

 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 weird issue

  Are you doing half or full duplex?

 On 5/13/2015 8:02 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:

  Thanks!
   --


   From: Jeremy
 Reply-To: af@afmug.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 8:58 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 weird issue

   Absolutely.  It will not work without it.

 On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Andreas Wiatowski 
 andr...@silowireless.com wrote:

   Out of curiosity…should I be turning on GPS timing?  Does it even work?
   --


   From: Josh Reynolds
 Reply-To: af@afmug.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 8:49 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 weird issue

  Make both airfibers on the shared rooftop masters, with reversed tx/rx.
 I think the most we have at one location is 4, and there is no more than 10
 feet from end to end of the structure. They are on slightly different
 azimuths.

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 05/13/2015 04:46 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:

 We have 2 Airfiber 24’s co-located on a building rooftop… they have about
 15ft horizontal separation.  The one air fibre pair is aimed at a tower
 about 1KM away and not the tower side we are about 75ft in the air.  The
 other Airfiber is located on a building across the road at the same
 height.  The azimuth is about 15 degrees off of each other.  The link from
 roof to tower, works 100%.  The link from building to building is about
 400ft away and we are having weird issues getting it to link.  Is there
 some sort of co-location magic to make this work?  I read somewhere that we
 should have master or slave mode matching at the co-located sites.

  Any words of wisdom are appreciated.

  -Andreas

   --

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt vs mimosa available frequencies

[Matt Hardy]

Hi guys,
Here is the approval for UBNT RocketM5 equipment:

https://industrycanada.co/number.php?ic=6545A-M5Did=165046

It should match up with what is available in software. Let us know if you
have any concerns...

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
wrote:

 I would suggest that for the proper answer to do the following:-

 1. Check the FCC equivalent organization for Canada and search for the
 Authorization ID to see what Freq. range the product is authorized for .

 or you can

 2. As the mfg. directly (mimosa and ubiquiti) the same question and
 compare the answers.

 :)

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 --

 *From: *Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, May 13, 2015 3:10:56 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] ubnt vs mimosa available frequencies

 Why does a Ubiquiti Rocket set for Canada have a lot more frequencies
 available than a Mimosa B5 that’s set for Canada?

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

[Matt Hardy]

Exactly :)

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:09 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

 Wormholes.


 On 5/4/2015 7:03 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

 The short burst concept could work. In that case, longer links would be
 better. How many bits(bytes) can you fit into a microsecond? At 10 miles,
 transit time is a little over 53 microseconds. So both ends could start
 transmitting at the same time, and if they shut up at 53 microseconds, the
 incoming would be in the clear.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 5/4/2015 4:51 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 But if I try to talk while you're talking, on the assumption that by the
 time you receive my transmission you will have stopped talking and can now
 listen, I have the additional problem that I can't talk because I'm
 listening.

 The only way I see this working is if we send in extremely short bursts
 no longer than the time the bits take to fly through the air.  So we both
 send our tiny burst, and just as the first bits get to the other end, we
 both stop xmt and switch to rcv so we can grab the bits.  Modify this to
 allow for OFDM cyclic prefix and delays due to multipath reflections, etc.


 -Original Message- From: Bill Prince
 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 6:42 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

 Think of the air in between as a storage device.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 5/4/2015 4:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 Ubiquiti claims to have that patent pending HDD mode where it figures
 out how long the bits take to fly through the air.

 I think of it as similar to road construction on one lane of a two lane
 road, and somehow the flagger at one end will flip his sign from STOP to
 SLOW before the guy at the other end.  I can't wrap my head around how that
 works.


 -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 6:03 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

 I have one AF5 up running FDD in the DFS band at 3.4 miles. We didn't
 want to try to push an AF24 that far. RTT average is around 0.8ms, so
 yes, like a licensed radio.

 No idea about the AF5X, haven't bought any. But I'd guess latency would
 be similar to the AF5 or 24 in half-duplex mode, which is going to be
 like 4-5ms. I have only done FDD though.. because it's moar better.

 On 5/4/2015 5:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 So I assume latency in FDD mode is sub millisecond like a licensed
 backhaul?

 What's is latency like on the AF5X?  Similar to a PTP600, a few
 milliseconds and very constant?


 -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

 No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts.

 On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the
 difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what you
 give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower power, and 
 drop-in
 replacement for a Rocket?

 I know it doesn't have the built-in high isolation TX and RX
 antennas, and doesn't do a gig of throughput.  But I'm sure there's more 
 to
 it. It's not jumping out at me on the UBNT website.

Re: [AFMUG] WTB- Nanobridge pieces

[Matt Hardy]

Hey Ty,
How many do you need? We probably have a handful around the office if you
need a few...

-Matt

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 We have quite a few Nanobridge dish kits in 22 and 25 versions but somehow
 I am woefully short on the mounting bracket specifically for the larger
 dish. We have the dish, mind you, but not the backplate/bracket. I know
 some of you have plenty of these and if you want to offload some let me
 know. If necessary I will take the dish to if that's what you prefer.

 -Ty

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

[Matt Hardy]

Hi,
There were some issues with AC PTP fixed with the latest beta (released
this week), but to my knowledge there are no known issues with PtMP.
Everyone that is using AC PtMP seems to be happy...

-Matt

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:

 Hi Peter



 That’s the opposite to what I see.

 The old Rocket’s for me were better with interference.

 That being said, I’ve only tried P2P with AC kit



 Thanks





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz
 *Sent:* Thursday, 30 April 2015 3:34 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration



 I’m seeing good results with RM5AC in regards to interference and weak
 signals.. Probably 4x better than RM5 radios.



 -Peter







 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:37 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration



 Depending on what vendor is doing the testing the results are different.

 Really hard to decide if I’m upgrading or side grading.



 Not so keen on the AC stuff, seems not to like interference and need super
 strong signal.



 Thanks



 Rhys









 *From:* Josh Reynolds [mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, 30 April 2015 1:34 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com; Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration



 Its the same chip :P

 That aside, have not, so I'll back out of this now.

 On April 29, 2015 7:31:54 PM AKDT, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
 r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:

 Hello



 Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

 I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.



 I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is
 staring to bend.



 Any thought please?



 Thanks



 :-)






 --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - ultrawide displays

[Matt Hardy]

One of our developers is using this:
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE39UY04-39-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00DOPGO2G

I can't lie when I walk past it, it looks pretty sweet...

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Those are nice in pairs.



 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
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 *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, April 6, 2015 4:38:58 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT - ultrawide displays

 most impressive ones I have seen were
  at ATT Stadium

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 I did not know such things existed.  21:9 aspect ratio and curved screen.
 3440 x 1440 pixels.

 http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=usl=
 ens=dhscs=19sku=210-ADTR

 I figured this would be the answer for those of you who put 2 monitors
 side-by-side.  But of course they show 2 of THESE side-by-side.

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AirOS and AirFIBER Radio for LibreNMS

[Matt Hardy]

Hi Neil,
I'll be happy to set up a few devices for you to test with ... I'll send
you another message off-list when I'm back in the office Monday :)

-Matt

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Neil Lathwood neil.lathw...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 As per the other thread discussing LibreNMS and us trying to add support
 added for more wireless based devices, a fair few have been in touch to
 offer help and support in making this happen - thanks to everyone who has
 been in contact.

 Just before I came across the other thread I'd been in touch with someone
 on the ubnt forums who had built support for these devices and they've
 (Mark Gibbons) very kindly provided us the code which this evening has just
 been merged into our main code base. I don't actually have these devices to
 be able to test this, if anyone does and they can provide snmp access for
 me to give things a whirl that would be amazing - just drop me an email
 offlist.

 We are still working to get support for other vendors and if it's still ok
 with everyone, I'll post updates as and when we have them - if not, just
 tell me to go away :)

 Thanks,

 Neil

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

[Matt Hardy]

Hi Rory,
We're not trying to hide anything, it's pretty clear to everyone this has
taken longer than we expected.
We hit a few unrelated compliance challenges after launching NanoBeam and
all of them collectively delayed the DFS approvals.

The reason I said soon is we're waiting for an ETA on approvals now
(they're at the lab now). Once we have a better estimate; we'll share with
you.
We're very careful about giving dates to you guys ;)

At this time it doesn't look like there are any technical reasons the
NanoBeams won't be approved for the other UNII bands... I know it's been
frustrating for many of you -- it definitely has been for us as well. But
it looks like we're almost there...

We'll keep everyone updated (unless Gino sees it first).

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

  Matt, the usual reason for not releasing information is that you don’t
 want your competitors to know what you are doing.  I get that.  At this
 point though, Mimosa is sharing it’s release schedules almost a year in
 advance, and both they and Cambium have had DFS on their WiFi chipsets
 since release.  We have all bought a bunch of the equipment that still
 doesn’t have DFS, some of it for almost a year and it’s screwed up my
 ordering and deployment  plans.  Being secretive has no value whatsoever.
 Not telling us what you know today is annoying  since I can’t make
 deployment decisions based on “soon”.  It’s been “soon” for almost a year.
 How about some actual facts as you know them.  If there are delays, that’s
 fine but just be honest about the process, that’s all we can expect.  If
 you need more time, just tell us and we can plan accordingly.  Did the
 equipment pass specifications that you believe are necessary for DFS
 certification in the lab and if so, how much longer does it take to
 complete the process?  If it didn’t, just let us know and we will accept it
 and adjust.  I’m really not interested in rumors right now on this
 particular subject.



 Rory







 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Hardy
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 01, 2015 6:05 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS



 v5.6 is getting close, there are rumors of RC/Final release coming soon
 ... ;)



 For NanoBeam, we did just receive some good news from the lab this week,
 so it appears there is light at the end of the tunnel. I wish I had more I
 could share, but we'll definitely keep you updated as we get more info.



 Thanks,
 Matt



 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 How is that going? I've got the 5.6 beta running on a small selection of
 subscribers, but I'm not really willing to make extensive use of it until
 (if?) it sees the light of day as a real release.

 ...and OBTW, what is the ETA on the expanded UNII frequencies on the
 nanobeam platform? Given a choice, I would only install nanobeams these
 days, except they don't cover all the frequencies we need. So I grit my
 teeth and install more (UGH) nanobridges.
 Really wish those boat anchors would go away.


  bp

 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com



  On 4/1/2015 4:29 PM, Matt Hardy wrote:

  I have to admit Ubiquiti doesn't have a great track record of SNMP
 support (I know I know) ;) -- but we're working on it. Trying to get it
 right in v5.6 with our new / custom MIB. If you guys need devices to test
 with, we'll be glad to donate a few...



 Thanks,
 Matt



 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote:

  A lot of the products that WISPs use have historically had sketchy (and
 ever changing) SNMP support which is probably one reason he is acting the
 way that he is.  I am -not- making an excuse for his behavior or attitude;
 just stating a fact.



 Josh



 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:44 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote:

 Just shows you what sort person this guy is. Let him rot in his own
 cesspool of hate.  He just saw a bunch of work ahead of him that would
 benefit a great deal of people, took a half assed stab at it and then said
 naw I'm too lazy I don't want to do it.

 Its a classic case of cognitive dissonance.  I'd like to do it,  but its
 too hard therefore I don't want to do it and screw you I can't do it so I
 hate all of you.


 - Original Message -
 From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:00:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

 What does Adam Armstrong’s Linkedin profile say “Wispa Connoisseur”?  He
 likes Wispa candy bars?  It seems ironic if he looks down on WISPs.


 From: David Milholen
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:27 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

 Some folks in the coding world think they have the million dollar code and
 is above everyone else when in reality they suck at everything else
 and only

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

[Matt Hardy]

v5.6 is getting close, there are rumors of RC/Final release coming soon
... ;)

For NanoBeam, we did just receive some good news from the lab this week, so
it appears there is light at the end of the tunnel. I wish I had more I
could share, but we'll definitely keep you updated as we get more info.

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  How is that going? I've got the 5.6 beta running on a small selection of
 subscribers, but I'm not really willing to make extensive use of it until
 (if?) it sees the light of day as a real release.

 ...and OBTW, what is the ETA on the expanded UNII frequencies on the
 nanobeam platform? Given a choice, I would only install nanobeams these
 days, except they don't cover all the frequencies we need. So I grit my
 teeth and install more (UGH) nanobridges.
 Really wish those boat anchors would go away.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 4/1/2015 4:29 PM, Matt Hardy wrote:

 I have to admit Ubiquiti doesn't have a great track record of SNMP support
 (I know I know) ;) -- but we're working on it. Trying to get it right in
 v5.6 with our new / custom MIB. If you guys need devices to test with,
 we'll be glad to donate a few...

  Thanks,
 Matt

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote:

 A lot of the products that WISPs use have historically had sketchy (and
 ever changing) SNMP support which is probably one reason he is acting the
 way that he is.  I am -not- making an excuse for his behavior or attitude;
 just stating a fact.

  Josh

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:44 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote:

 Just shows you what sort person this guy is. Let him rot in his own
 cesspool of hate.  He just saw a bunch of work ahead of him that would
 benefit a great deal of people, took a half assed stab at it and then said
 naw I'm too lazy I don't want to do it.

 Its a classic case of cognitive dissonance.  I'd like to do it,  but its
 too hard therefore I don't want to do it and screw you I can't do it so I
 hate all of you.


 - Original Message -
 From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:00:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

  What does Adam Armstrong’s Linkedin profile say “Wispa Connoisseur”?
 He likes Wispa candy bars?  It seems ironic if he looks down on WISPs.


 From: David Milholen
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:27 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

  Some folks in the coding world think they have the million dollar code
 and is above everyone else when in reality they suck at everything else
 and only have a decent piece of code nothing more.  This is where open
 source gets versatile and ugly at times because someone that is willing
 to build the initial code to a higher standard can see the flaws others
 have made and fix what needs to be fixed.
 These are the guys who make open source a great place to play.

 Our entire core is built around open source our VMs and phy servers are
 all open source. I dont have a single windows machine in my office now.
 I did have an old XP machine to run linkplanner but WINE has come a long
 way so now I run it on my Debian console with no issue.

 all of our techs use small laptops with either crashbang linux or
 Lubuntu on them to allow them to switch between networks quickly.
 Our Senior tech can be in and out of a home in less than 40min with
 contract and paid invoice.
 up until last year we made the change to move all tech laptops to linux.



 On 3/31/2015 5:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I haven't paid him a dime, but it does many things very well.

   It's like the guy that made the badass bandwidth shaper years ago. He
 was a tool, but people still bought it because it was the best at what it
 did.

   Eventually someone else will make something better and not be a tool,
 but that's where we're at for now.




   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com




 --

   From: Lists mailto:li...@wavedirect.org
   To: af@afmug.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:41:11 AM
   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

   So write a good product = you can treat customers (yes I paid the sub)
 however you want.  Belittle industries publically without consequence?

   Why are you apologizing for him? The means justifies the end?  I think
 its because you are probably the person who paid him to put the Trango Apex
 code in as well as other things and are invested.

   - Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net
   To: af@afmug.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:38:00 AM
   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

   Lots of people do just that because it's the best at what it does do

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

[Matt Hardy]

I have to admit Ubiquiti doesn't have a great track record of SNMP support
(I know I know) ;) -- but we're working on it. Trying to get it right in
v5.6 with our new / custom MIB. If you guys need devices to test with,
we'll be glad to donate a few...

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote:

 A lot of the products that WISPs use have historically had sketchy (and
 ever changing) SNMP support which is probably one reason he is acting the
 way that he is.  I am -not- making an excuse for his behavior or attitude;
 just stating a fact.

 Josh

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:44 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote:

 Just shows you what sort person this guy is. Let him rot in his own
 cesspool of hate.  He just saw a bunch of work ahead of him that would
 benefit a great deal of people, took a half assed stab at it and then said
 naw I'm too lazy I don't want to do it.

 Its a classic case of cognitive dissonance.  I'd like to do it,  but its
 too hard therefore I don't want to do it and screw you I can't do it so I
 hate all of you.


 - Original Message -
 From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:00:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

 What does Adam Armstrong’s Linkedin profile say “Wispa Connoisseur”?  He
 likes Wispa candy bars?  It seems ironic if he looks down on WISPs.


 From: David Milholen
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:27 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

 Some folks in the coding world think they have the million dollar code
 and is above everyone else when in reality they suck at everything else
 and only have a decent piece of code nothing more.  This is where open
 source gets versatile and ugly at times because someone that is willing
 to build the initial code to a higher standard can see the flaws others
 have made and fix what needs to be fixed.
 These are the guys who make open source a great place to play.

 Our entire core is built around open source our VMs and phy servers are
 all open source. I dont have a single windows machine in my office now.
 I did have an old XP machine to run linkplanner but WINE has come a long
 way so now I run it on my Debian console with no issue.

 all of our techs use small laptops with either crashbang linux or Lubuntu
 on them to allow them to switch between networks quickly.
 Our Senior tech can be in and out of a home in less than 40min with
 contract and paid invoice.
 up until last year we made the change to move all tech laptops to linux.



 On 3/31/2015 5:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

   I haven't paid him a dime, but it does many things very well.

   It's like the guy that made the badass bandwidth shaper years ago. He
 was a tool, but people still bought it because it was the best at what it
 did.

   Eventually someone else will make something better and not be a tool,
 but that's where we're at for now.




   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com




 --

   From: Lists mailto:li...@wavedirect.org
   To: af@afmug.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:41:11 AM
   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

   So write a good product = you can treat customers (yes I paid the sub)
 however you want.  Belittle industries publically without consequence?

   Why are you apologizing for him? The means justifies the end?  I think
 its because you are probably the person who paid him to put the Trango Apex
 code in as well as other things and are invested.

   - Original Message -
   From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net
   To: af@afmug.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:38:00 AM
   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

   Lots of people do just that because it's the best at what it does do.




   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com

   - Original Message -

   From: Lists mailto:li...@wavedirect.org
   To: af@afmug.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:36:39 AM
   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

   Also a total douchebag and has scared more than one person away from
 his product with his personality. I openly admitted to him his product was
 great but the lack of flexibility will be his downfall. Nobody will want to
 do business with a person like this who openly calls you and everything you
 work for a retard

   - Original Message -
   From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net
   To: af@afmug.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:33:07 AM
   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

   Adam is very strong in his beliefs. that said, they're usually founded
 on something concrete.




   -
   Mike Hammett
   

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Station to Station performance

[Matt Hardy]

We actually renamed WDS Repeater to AP Repeater Mode in the web UI to
help reduce this confusion.
We also have the description Transparent Bridge Mode next to the WDS
checkbox.

Our recommendation is usually to leave it enabled...

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 Two different techs.

 WDS Bridging != WDS Repeating
 On Mar 9, 2015 7:37 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, I have no idea why UBNT decided to label Layer2 mode as WDS mode.
 It definitely creates a bit of confusion for people.  There is actually no
 WDS repeating taking place in this scenario.

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz
 wrote:

 WDS repeater mode cuts the throughput.



 In this case WDS is allowing the MAC address of the device behind it to
 pass through.




 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/Installation-Troubleshooting/What-do-WDS-Transparent-Bridge-Mode-on-both-end-AP-and-Station/td-p/618853



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 8:26 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Station to Station performance



 Definitely not.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mar 9, 2015 11:23 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 WDS definitely does not halve the bandwidth of the clients.



 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 Doing the separate links would be the best option. You have a little more
 control over the quality of each link as opposed to one link possibly
 bringing down the whole AP.



 I am not really sure WDS is going to help you much. WDS mostly provides L2
 access, if you CPE is a bridged CPE. I am not sure you will see much
 benefit from WDS. I thought, and I could be wrong, that WDSing all the
 clients on one AP halves the bandwidth of the clients. I could be wrong.


 Vince West

 Tower Hand

 Technical Support

 Shelby Broadband

 148 Citizens Blvd

 Simpsonville, KY 40067

 Phone: 1-888-364-4232



 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz
 wrote:

 What is the distance and angle from the stations to the AP? Also, the
 pattern on the antenna is pretty wide, LOS is pretty important. If they are
 too low on the roofline they will not perform well

 Yes WDS makes a difference but not that much.


 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
 Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:21 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT Station to Station performance

 I'm looking at a site where somebody has installed three UBNT M5 stations
 pointing at a UBNT M5 AP.  Performance station to station is important for
 this customer, and it kind of sucks.

 I'm suggesting that we replace the whole thing with three separate point
 to point links, but in the short term will I get better performance from
 site to site if I change the stations into WDS APs?  My feeling is
 probably, but I wonder if someone who's already done this can tell me.

Re: [AFMUG] ack....here we go again

[Matt Hardy]

Jay, please keep that stuff in AL. I enjoyed our sunny 77deg weather today
;)

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:


 the sun has come out and it's 74.  why am i sitting here?  its no longer
 foggy and gloomy like it was all morning.
 need to go enjoy this four hours of sanity ; ice and snow returns tonight!!

 (i kid you not)


 - Original Message -
 *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:43 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the Af mailing list


 well lookee here!


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Rick Harnish rharn...@fibertothefarm.com
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:27 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the Af mailing list

 Test, I'm back!


 Respectively,

 Rick Harnish
 Broadband Consultant  Industry Analyst
 260-307-4000 cell
 Skype: rick.harnish.​
 Twitter: @rharnish​


 
 From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of af-requ...@afmug.com 
 af-requ...@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:25 PM
 To: Rick Harnish
 Subject: Welcome to the Af mailing list

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Re: [AFMUG] The Brothers WISP Live at WISPAmerica 2015

[Matt Hardy]

I'm signing up just for this!

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com
wrote:

 For every vendor who's had Mike asking, um, rather pointed questions
 during their own webinars, here's your chance for revenge ;-)

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Hopefully I've done this right.

 https://plus.google.com/events/cnuv9joknr1qjcc31eu6jekf5gg

 Go to this page to post questions to us beforehand. When you go there,
 click on the QA button in the upper right corner of where the video would
 be. In the upper right of that window, click the button that looks like a
 phone's keypad. Click on QA. Click on Ask a new question.

 We'll address as many questions as we can during the show. Please try to
 keep the questions quick and relevant to things that may be going on at the
 show.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT frequency

[Matt Hardy]

The latest firmware actually shows what exact frequency range you're using
(from start to end):

[image: Inline image 1]

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote:

 I've been using UBNT equipment for a few years now and one thing has
 always confused me. I cannot tell the east frequencies that my radios are
 using.

 For example, in airOS 5.x I can select 5840 and put it to 5, 10, 20, 30 or
 40 MHz channels. How do I know what full spectrum the radio is using? Is it
 5800-5840, 5805-5845, 5810-5850, etc?

 I have done a lot of web searching on this and find nothing. I've only
 been involved in wireless for 3 years and have been self taught, so perhaps
 this is a rookie question I should already know?

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] holy crap...

[Matt Hardy]

Whoa...

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3q3ZC5fcnY

 A little too close to those guy wires for my blood.

 --
 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] UBNT equipment - Atlanta

[Matt Hardy via Af]

We do have a top-secret office in Midtown ;)
Mostly development; we don't keep a lot of equipment here though... what do
you need?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  UBNT does actually have an Atlanta office...

 and Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, Taiwan, and a few other places... :P

 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

 On 12/28/2014 05:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

 Matt lives down there...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 28, 2014 9:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc 
 t...@franklinisp.net wrote:


  I need help.  Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to
 my brother in laws.  They moved to another house in Cobb County.  Have a
 three story home with a Belkin.  Wifi sucks.  Will never be able to work
 here !  Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ?

 Sent from my iPhone
 ___
 Members mailing 
 listMembers@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members

Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an hour

[Matt Hardy via Af]

I worked retail in high school  college, and every Black Friday, we'd put
up some signs saying we were having deals, but everything was the same
price.

The lines from the cash registers would line up to the back of the store,
people waiting in line to pay the same price they'd pay the week before or
after. Never understood it ;)



On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have another set of words for BF regarding those..  deals.



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 *From: *Caleb Knauer via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:00:56 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an
 hour

 Man I guess I wasn't sticking my tongue into my cheek far enough ;-)

 It is kinda interesting the analysis and psychology that goes into the
 BF deals.

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Travis Johnson via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:
  It more that the big stores are technically in the red until that
  Friday... then from that Friday forward for the rest of the year is when
  they make all their profit for the year.
 
  Travis
 
  On 11/25/2014 11:15 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote:
 
  If your books are in the red for every day other than that Friday, your
  business is bad and you should feel bad.  And you won't see next year.
 
  On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:
 
  Black because people doing the books make positive numbers black and
  negative numbers red.  Black Friday is when the numbers on the books
 turn
  black.
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
  wrote:
 
  thats supposedly the first day of the year a business will be in the
  black, at least thats what I was told.
 
  On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:54 AM, James Howard via Af af@afmug.com
  wrote:
 
  It hasn’t been that many years since there were basically mobs at
  Walmart and other stores when they opened for “Black Friday”.  Does
 anyone
  know what the actual history of the name is?  I always thought it was
 a
  reference to the stores trying to increase sales enough to “get in the
  black” financially for the year.  Is it really a reference to the
 almost mob
  atmosphere that has occurred over the years?  If so, that is racist.
 Of
  course just because something is racist doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
 
 
 
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via
 Af
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:40 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an
  hour
 
 
 
  Black Friday... now that is just racist!
 
 
 
  From: Mathew Howard via Af
 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:38 AM
 
  To: af@afmug.com
 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an
  hour
 
 
 
  I saw a comment somewhere last night... Early Black Friday sale,
  everything 100% off in Ferguson.
 
  
 
  From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Chuck McCown via Af
  [af@afmug.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:31 AM
 
 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an
  hour
 
  A good looting is a perfect warm-up exercise for the holiday season.
 
  When we ran the Radio Shack, this was the time of the year for break
 ins
  and burglaries.
 
  One time they threw a large rock through the window and were in and
 out
  in 2 minutes.
 
  The next incident happened before we could even get the window fixed.
 
 
 
  Security cameras satisfied our curiosity as to what happened, but they
  never helped the cops catch anyone.
 
 
 
  From: That One Guy via Af
 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:27 AM

 
  To: af@afmug.com
 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an
  hour
 
 
 
  yes, no questions asked. There were nikes and flat screens in those
  stores that needed liberated from the oppressors. The news could have
  ignored it all together and they would have rioted and looted, thats
 who
  they are, its what they do, kind of like how when we see jobs, we
 take them
  and do them. We really arent any different than them
 
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:
 
  Or that the 24 hour news cycle needs something to talk about.  One
  comment I heard on the radio was that given the amount of coverage
 that [the
  media] had in Ferguson, if something didn't happen they would be
 really
  disappointed.  Expectations lead to results.
 
  If the Media had been covering it as 'An announcement is expected
  tonight, We 

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack

[Matt Hardy via Af]

http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/Re-Bash-shell-vuln-Is-ER-also-vulnerable/m-p/1024737/highlight/true#M43038



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  UBNT not vulnerable as AirOS doesn't have bash, it uses busybox (already
 tested this myself).

 EdgeRouters all vulnerable. You can either download bash from debian
 stable/security, or wait for an incoming patch.

 Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
  On 09/25/2014 12:04 PM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote:

 Yeah I am trying to figure out what else I may be operating that is
 vulnerable. UBNT? Mikrotik? Cisco?

  -Ty

 On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 It can be exposed by anything that invokes bash - which is a ton of stuff
 typically on Linux systems.

 On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 PS.. This vulnerability can be exploited via HTTP/Apache attack vectors,
 so you need to patch any vulnerable system running Apache.

 Peter Kranz
 Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 510-868-1614%20x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf
 Of Matt via Af
 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code
 injection attack

 Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack


 https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/