DIS: Re: BUS: Let's get things moving

2012-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
On 24 June 2012 23:26, FKA441344 441...@gmail.com wrote:
 I intend to, With Notice, initiate a criminal case: omd violated Rule
 2143 by failing to distribute by the end of Sun. 24 June proposals in
 the proposal pool that were in there at the beginning of Mon. 18 June.

Do we really need constant criminal cases about slightly late reports
when the game is moving as slowly as it is?


DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Pavitra
On 06/25/2012 02:24 PM, Noé Rubinstein wrote:
 The game is slow enough nowadays for me not to mind giving it a go; I
 would hate for my first time to be unambiguous, though, so here I go.
 
 Also, the usual CFJ.

AGAINT




DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Noé Rubinstein
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:19 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Arguments: The usual CFJ, despite being established in game custom,
 doesn't have a standard phrasing, although there are some common ones.
 (I am a player or Phlogistique is a player are two plausible
 wordings.) I'd say that the meaning of the statement of the CFJ is
 unambiguous, but the exact statement of the phrasing is ambiguous. Does
 that matter?

I would have thought that the specific wording of the CFJ created by
my message would be Also, the usual CFJ.

(Not sure if and how that relates to your point.)

-- 
Noé Rubinstein


DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Noé Rubinstein
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 Arguments:  In context, I consider here I go a reasonably unambiguous
 equivalent of I become a player.

Gratuitous:  I intended here I go to reference the act of posting a
message, not the act of registering.

-- 
Noé Rubinstein


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy

Pavitra wrote:


On 06/25/2012 02:24 PM, Noé Rubinstein wrote:

The game is slow enough nowadays for me not to mind giving it a go; I
would hate for my first time to be unambiguous, though, so here I go.

Also, the usual CFJ.


AGAINT


Context for the newcomers:

http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1260
http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1261

These days, AGAINT is treated the same as any other Rule 754 (1) typo
(see Judge Zefram's arguments in CFJ 1885).  I thought we'd decided
otherwise, but apparently I remembered wrong (or at least it's only
ambiguous if the poster says ha ha, this is ambiguous! or something
along those lines).  Here's the message that Zefram mentions:

http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2007-December/008784.html


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 These days, AGAINT is treated the same as any other Rule 754 (1) typo
 (see Judge Zefram's arguments in CFJ 1885).  I thought we'd decided
 otherwise, but apparently I remembered wrong (or at least it's only
 ambiguous if the poster says ha ha, this is ambiguous! or something
 along those lines).

I'm surprised as well; you've treated AGAINT as ambiguous several
times since, and its being ambiguous was referred to in CFJ 2793.  I
think by this point game custom has progressed so that it actually is
ambiguous (since there is an R754 ambiguity in meaning).


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Noé Rubinstein
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 Context for the newcomers:

 http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1260
 http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1261

I would normally have complained about explaining jokes being unfunny,
but even though I was aware of AGAINT being a thing, I did not know
about the original CFJs, and so they were quite a good read.

As a side note: users of Yubnub http://yubnub.org/ can now use the
command cfj 1885 to get to
http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1885.

-- 
Noé Rubinstein


DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
On 25 June 2012 21:24, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 Arguments:  In context, I consider here I go a reasonably unambiguous
 equivalent of I become a player.

Arguments: In my opinion, this is really stretching our leniency with
registration requests to breaking point, especially since its author
was clearly aiming for ambiguity.