DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird 
On 25 June 2012 21:24, Ed Murphy  wrote:
> Arguments:  In context, I consider "here I go" a reasonably unambiguous
> equivalent of "I become a player".

Arguments: In my opinion, this is really stretching our leniency with
registration requests to breaking point, especially since its author
was clearly aiming for ambiguity.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Noé Rubinstein 
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:
> Context for the newcomers:
>
> http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1260
> http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1261

I would normally have complained about explaining jokes being unfunny,
but even though I was aware of AGAINT being a thing, I did not know
about the original CFJs, and so they were quite a good read.

As a side note: users of Yubnub  can now use the
command "cfj 1885" to get to
.

-- 
Noé Rubinstein

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread omd 
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:
> These days, "AGAINT" is treated the same as any other Rule 754 (1) typo
> (see Judge Zefram's arguments in CFJ 1885).  I thought we'd decided
> otherwise, but apparently I remembered wrong (or at least it's only
> ambiguous if the poster says "ha ha, this is ambiguous!" or something
> along those lines).

I'm surprised as well; you've treated "AGAINT" as ambiguous several
times since, and its being ambiguous was referred to in CFJ 2793.  I
think by this point game custom has progressed so that it actually is
ambiguous (since there is an R754 "ambiguity in meaning").

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy 

Pavitra wrote:


On 06/25/2012 02:24 PM, Noé Rubinstein wrote:

The game is slow enough nowadays for me not to mind giving it a go; I
would hate for my first time to be unambiguous, though, so here I go.

Also, the usual CFJ.


AGAINT


Context for the newcomers:

http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1260
http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1261

These days, "AGAINT" is treated the same as any other Rule 754 (1) typo
(see Judge Zefram's arguments in CFJ 1885).  I thought we'd decided
otherwise, but apparently I remembered wrong (or at least it's only
ambiguous if the poster says "ha ha, this is ambiguous!" or something
along those lines).  Here's the message that Zefram mentions:

http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2007-December/008784.html

DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Noé Rubinstein 
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:
> Arguments:  In context, I consider "here I go" a reasonably unambiguous
> equivalent of "I become a player".

Gratuitous:  I intended "here I go" to reference the act of posting a
message, not the act of registering.

-- 
Noé Rubinstein

DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Noé Rubinstein 
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:19 PM, ais523  wrote:
> Arguments: The "usual CFJ", despite being established in game custom,
> doesn't have a standard phrasing, although there are some common ones.
> ("I am a player" or "Phlogistique is a player" are two plausible
> wordings.) I'd say that the meaning of the statement of the CFJ is
> unambiguous, but the exact statement of the phrasing is ambiguous. Does
> that matter?

I would have thought that the specific wording of the CFJ created by
my message would be "Also, the usual CFJ."

(Not sure if and how that relates to your point.)

-- 
Noé Rubinstein

DIS: Re: BUS: hello world

2012-06-25 Thread Pavitra 
On 06/25/2012 02:24 PM, Noé Rubinstein wrote:
> The game is slow enough nowadays for me not to mind giving it a go; I
> would hate for my first time to be unambiguous, though, so here I go.
> 
> Also, the usual CFJ.

AGAINT

DIS: Re: BUS: Let's get things moving

2012-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird 
On 24 June 2012 23:26, FKA441344 <441...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I intend to, With Notice, initiate a criminal case: omd violated Rule
> 2143 by failing to distribute by the end of Sun. 24 June proposals in
> the proposal pool that were in there at the beginning of Mon. 18 June.

Do we really need constant criminal cases about slightly late reports
when the game is moving as slowly as it is?