Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!! - getting denched in JA
well sorry for losing track of this threadhad gone roadtrippin to pune and bombay... well had a wonderful surprise when i came backJA had released right now gettin drenched in it. as of now lve Azeem and Jashn E Bahaara ..have to listen to the others yet properly...and i duunno about others but i found the DVD lousy.the packing was top-notch.DVD made no sense thought some goodies like clips abt sound recording etc might be there(ala rdb!!!) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h || <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep!! I too feel the same... > > V S Rawat, Ajit Mundra, Sunil VG, ST(Sahilthaker), > Swaps, Avyayan... > > These are the few names immediately came to the mind, > who used to be great contributors in various > constructive discussions in this group... but I > haven't seen these guys around for quiet a while > now... > > > > --- Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 years > > after a similar one > > >>and in the interim the essence of the argument has > > remained unchanged > > > > Also Gopal (and other senior members), you too have > > become selective in the > > discussions you participate, but still more potent. > > :) > > > > Understandable given your commitments and level of > > activity on this group > > :) > > > > I have been a member for some 4 years now..I too > > feel the quality of the > > discussion is not what it used to be. > > > > Does anybody else feel the same? > > I used to see very insightful and analytical > > discussions by members who > > really know the stuff about music and have followed > > Rahman very closely. (I > > can't recall the discussions/member's name on the > > run. I am no Gopal ;) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2008 9:21 PM, Gopal Srinivasan > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 > > years after a similar one > > > and in the interim the essence of the argument has > > remained unchanged > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/46393 > > " The search is more important than the destination " > > - a r rahman - > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
Yep!! I too feel the same... V S Rawat, Ajit Mundra, Sunil VG, ST(Sahilthaker), Swaps, Avyayan... These are the few names immediately came to the mind, who used to be great contributors in various constructive discussions in this group... but I haven't seen these guys around for quiet a while now... --- Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 years > after a similar one > >>and in the interim the essence of the argument has > remained unchanged > > Also Gopal (and other senior members), you too have > become selective in the > discussions you participate, but still more potent. > :) > > Understandable given your commitments and level of > activity on this group > :) > > I have been a member for some 4 years now..I too > feel the quality of the > discussion is not what it used to be. > > Does anybody else feel the same? > I used to see very insightful and analytical > discussions by members who > really know the stuff about music and have followed > Rahman very closely. (I > can't recall the discussions/member's name on the > run. I am no Gopal ;) ) > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2008 9:21 PM, Gopal Srinivasan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 > years after a similar one > > and in the interim the essence of the argument has > remained unchanged > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/46393 " The search is more important than the destination " - a r rahman - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
Sorry..I meant 'I feel' rather than 'I too feel'..in my previous mail On Jan 15, 2008 10:47 PM, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 years after a similar one > >>and in the interim the essence of the argument has remained unchanged > > Also Gopal (and other senior members), you too have become selective in > the discussions you participate, but still more potent. :) > > Understandable given your commitments and level of activity on this group > :) > > I have been a member for some 4 years now..I too feel the quality of the > discussion is not what it used to be. > > Does anybody else feel the same? > I used to see very insightful and analytical discussions by members who > really know the stuff about music and have followed Rahman very closely. (I > can't recall the discussions/member's name on the run. I am no Gopal ;) ) > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2008 9:21 PM, Gopal Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 years after a similar one > > and in the interim the essence of the argument has remained unchanged > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/46393 > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > "Prashanth Murali Nottath" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I think it's more owing to lack of time, than any other care. The > > > genius's hands are full with multilingual assignments. He himself > > > clarified that position in an interview some time back. > > > > > > And let's not forget, he made lagaan for a new director, similarly > > > jillunu kadhal, A T M, etc. He is at present having sakarakatti also. > > > > > > On 14/01/2008, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > SOK is a masala movie > > > > > > > > On 1/14/08, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the > > director > > > > > is a first-timer. > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > > > > cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no > > > > > Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making > > > > > the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old > > > > > romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR > > > > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? > > > > > > > > > > Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema > > these > > > > > days are the same old stories with similar song situations as > > well. > > > > > There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a > > montage song > > > > > of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like > > walking > > > > > along the beach, talking, etc. > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > , " > > > > > prashanth.palanisamy" > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hi vithur, > > > > > > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani > > also would > > > > > > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > > > > > > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big > > directors its > > > > > > fine..m talking about the small time budding > > directors...balaji > > > > > > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his > > foray into > > > > > > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in > > experimenting as > > > > > > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie > > more > > > > > > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > > > > > > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > prashanth > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > , > > > > > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be > > true. But > > > > > > according > > > > > > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced > > that he can > > > > > > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his > > Music, he > > > > > > takes a > > > > > > > film. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a > > good > > > > > > screen play > > > > > > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. > > even dir > > > > > > Kadhir > > > > > > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > > > > > > different for > > > > > > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a > > different > > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > > > > > > related to a > > > > > > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not > > doing > > > > > well, > > > > > > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music,
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
>>Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 years after a similar one >>and in the interim the essence of the argument has remained unchanged Also Gopal (and other senior members), you too have become selective in the discussions you participate, but still more potent. :) Understandable given your commitments and level of activity on this group :) I have been a member for some 4 years now..I too feel the quality of the discussion is not what it used to be. Does anybody else feel the same? I used to see very insightful and analytical discussions by members who really know the stuff about music and have followed Rahman very closely. (I can't recall the discussions/member's name on the run. I am no Gopal ;) ) On Jan 15, 2008 9:21 PM, Gopal Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 years after a similar one > and in the interim the essence of the argument has remained unchanged > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/46393 > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > "Prashanth Murali Nottath" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think it's more owing to lack of time, than any other care. The > > genius's hands are full with multilingual assignments. He himself > > clarified that position in an interview some time back. > > > > And let's not forget, he made lagaan for a new director, similarly > > jillunu kadhal, A T M, etc. He is at present having sakarakatti also. > > > > On 14/01/2008, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > SOK is a masala movie > > > > > > On 1/14/08, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the > director > > > > is a first-timer. > > > > > > > > The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > > > cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no > > > > Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making > > > > the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old > > > > romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR > > > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? > > > > > > > > Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema > these > > > > days are the same old stories with similar song situations as well. > > > > There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a > montage song > > > > of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like > walking > > > > along the beach, talking, etc. > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > , " > > > > prashanth.palanisamy" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hi vithur, > > > > > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani > also would > > > > > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > > > > > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big > directors its > > > > > fine..m talking about the small time budding > directors...balaji > > > > > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his > foray into > > > > > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in > experimenting as > > > > > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more > > > > > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > > > > > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > > > > > thanks, > > > > > prashanth > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > , > > > > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > > > > > > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be > true. But > > > > > according > > > > > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced > that he can > > > > > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his > Music, he > > > > > takes a > > > > > > film. > > > > > > > > > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good > > > > > screen play > > > > > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. > even dir > > > > > Kadhir > > > > > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > > > > > > > > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > > > > > different for > > > > > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a > different > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > > > > > related to a > > > > > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not > doing > > > > well, > > > > > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, > BGMs etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi one and all, > > > > > > > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in > the sunday > > > > > > > supplement there was an article about the changing times > for both > > > > > > > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and > how ci
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
Interesting that this discussion comes up 4 years after a similar one and in the interim the essence of the argument has remained unchanged http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/46393 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Prashanth Murali Nottath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it's more owing to lack of time, than any other care. The > genius's hands are full with multilingual assignments. He himself > clarified that position in an interview some time back. > > And let's not forget, he made lagaan for a new director, similarly > jillunu kadhal, A T M, etc. He is at present having sakarakatti also. > > On 14/01/2008, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SOK is a masala movie > > > > On 1/14/08, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the director > > > is a first-timer. > > > > > > The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > > cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no > > > Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making > > > the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old > > > romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR > > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? > > > > > > Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema these > > > days are the same old stories with similar song situations as well. > > > There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a montage song > > > of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like walking > > > along the beach, talking, etc. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , " > > > prashanth.palanisamy" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > hi vithur, > > > > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani also would > > > > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > > > > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big directors its > > > > fine..m talking about the small time budding directors...balaji > > > > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his foray into > > > > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in experimenting as > > > > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more > > > > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > > > > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > > > > thanks, > > > > prashanth > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > > > > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But > > > > according > > > > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can > > > > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he > > > > takes a > > > > > film. > > > > > > > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good > > > > screen play > > > > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir > > > > Kadhir > > > > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > > > > > > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > > > > different for > > > > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > > > > related to a > > > > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing > > > well, > > > > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hi one and all, > > > > > > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday > > > > > > supplement there was an article about the changing times for both > > > > > > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema > > > > > > with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane > > > > > > movies with big starsall the movies they spoke about were > > > actually > > > > > > goodlike paruthiveeran,mozhi,kallori,chennai 600028, etc > > > etc...my > > > > > > issue is that one common denominator missing was -ARRs name..i > > > > > > think in hindi he has no problem..the movies ARR does are really > > > > > > good..successful or not...but in tamil he does only masala > > > movies(now > > > > > > i.e)like say SIVAJI,SOK and ATM ..im not against the actors > > > or the > > > > > > movies i just think ARR should also work with the lesser but > > > > > > talented directors what say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > regards, > > > > > Vithur > > > > > > > > > > A.R.RAHMAN - THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Temet Nosce >
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
Dude ! well said There are handful of movies in tamil with good script, screen play & presentation coming every year. Unfortunately ARR not able to get those real movies instead of routine stuff. Hope good movie makers approach ARR other than famous directors who are for arr. Regards Pavan "prashanth.palanisamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: @tapey 'The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > > cinema of the current generation' thats not true. well i love ashutosh movies and ROM's movie(have not watched aks!!!) as well...so i have no bias in terms of languagethere are a lot of directors say gautam menon (see kaakha kaakha ... no run of mill there...)...vishnuvardhan(i like his style...).. ameer (paruthiveeran.same ol story???)venkat prabhu(chennai 60028 was outright hilarious...)...the director of mozhi ...lot more ppl like balaji sakthivel... these ppl might have their own choice of music dirsm not asking ARR to break their relationship...and work with themm just telling the movies he works for shd have content esp in tamil.i just hope sakkarakatti has it and proves me wrong 'So how, in this climate, is ARR > > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant?' this means he is not doing brilliant music i never had an issue with the music.the music has always been gr8 in all the movies i have citedits just the movies were...well its a perspective.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Prashanth Murali Nottath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it's more owing to lack of time, than any other care. The > genius's hands are full with multilingual assignments. He himself > clarified that position in an interview some time back. > > And let's not forget, he made lagaan for a new director, similarly > jillunu kadhal, A T M, etc. He is at present having sakarakatti also. > > On 14/01/2008, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SOK is a masala movie > > > > On 1/14/08, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the director > > > is a first-timer. > > > > > > The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > > cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no > > > Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making > > > the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old > > > romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR > > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? > > > > > > Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema these > > > days are the same old stories with similar song situations as well. > > > There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a montage song > > > of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like walking > > > along the beach, talking, etc. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , " > > > prashanth.palanisamy" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > hi vithur, > > > > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani also would > > > > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > > > > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big directors its > > > > fine..m talking about the small time budding directors...balaji > > > > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his foray into > > > > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in experimenting as > > > > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more > > > > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > > > > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > > > > thanks, > > > > prashanth > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > > > > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But > > > > according > > > > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can > > > > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he > > > > takes a > > > > > film. > > > > > > > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good > > > > screen play > > > > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir > > > > Kadhir > > > > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > > > > > > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > > > > different for > > > > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > > > > related to a > > > > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing > > > well, > > > > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy wrote: > > >
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
No, it is a romance. I included romances in my little rant :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Shah Navas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SOK is a masala movie > > On 1/14/08, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the director > > is a first-timer. > > > > The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no > > Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making > > the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old > > romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? > > > > Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema these > > days are the same old stories with similar song situations as well. > > There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a montage song > > of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like walking > > along the beach, talking, etc. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , " > > prashanth.palanisamy" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > hi vithur, > > > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani also would > > > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > > > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big directors its > > > fine..m talking about the small time budding directors...balaji > > > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his foray into > > > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in experimenting as > > > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more > > > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > > > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > > > thanks, > > > prashanth > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But > > > according > > > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can > > > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he > > > takes a > > > > film. > > > > > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good > > > screen play > > > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir > > > Kadhir > > > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > > > > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > > > different for > > > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different > > > case. > > > > > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > > > related to a > > > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing > > well, > > > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hi one and all, > > > > > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday > > > > > supplement there was an article about the changing times for both > > > > > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema > > > > > with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane > > > > > movies with big starsall the movies they spoke about were > > actually > > > > > goodlike paruthiveeran,mozhi,kallori,chennai 600028, etc > > etc...my > > > > > issue is that one common denominator missing was -ARRs name..i > > > > > think in hindi he has no problem..the movies ARR does are really > > > > > good..successful or not...but in tamil he does only masala > > movies(now > > > > > i.e)like say SIVAJI,SOK and ATM ..im not against the actors > > or the > > > > > movies i just think ARR should also work with the lesser but > > > > > talented directors what say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > regards, > > > > Vithur > > > > > > > > A.R.RAHMAN - THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
@tapey 'The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > > cinema of the current generation' thats not true. well i love ashutosh movies and ROM's movie(have not watched aks!!!) as well...so i have no bias in terms of languagethere are a lot of directors say gautam menon (see kaakha kaakha ... no run of mill there...)...vishnuvardhan(i like his style...).. ameer (paruthiveeran.same ol story???)venkat prabhu(chennai 60028 was outright hilarious...)...the director of mozhi ...lot more ppl like balaji sakthivel... these ppl might have their own choice of music dirsm not asking ARR to break their relationship...and work with themm just telling the movies he works for shd have content esp in tamil.i just hope sakkarakatti has it and proves me wrong 'So how, in this climate, is ARR > > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant?' this means he is not doing brilliant music i never had an issue with the music.the music has always been gr8 in all the movies i have citedits just the movies were...well its a perspective.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Prashanth Murali Nottath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it's more owing to lack of time, than any other care. The > genius's hands are full with multilingual assignments. He himself > clarified that position in an interview some time back. > > And let's not forget, he made lagaan for a new director, similarly > jillunu kadhal, A T M, etc. He is at present having sakarakatti also. > > On 14/01/2008, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SOK is a masala movie > > > > On 1/14/08, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the director > > > is a first-timer. > > > > > > The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > > cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no > > > Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making > > > the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old > > > romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR > > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? > > > > > > Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema these > > > days are the same old stories with similar song situations as well. > > > There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a montage song > > > of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like walking > > > along the beach, talking, etc. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , " > > > prashanth.palanisamy" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > hi vithur, > > > > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani also would > > > > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > > > > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big directors its > > > > fine..m talking about the small time budding directors...balaji > > > > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his foray into > > > > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in experimenting as > > > > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more > > > > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > > > > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > > > > thanks, > > > > prashanth > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > > > > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But > > > > according > > > > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can > > > > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he > > > > takes a > > > > > film. > > > > > > > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good > > > > screen play > > > > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir > > > > Kadhir > > > > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > > > > > > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > > > > different for > > > > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > > > > related to a > > > > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing > > > well, > > > > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hi one and all, > > > > > > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday > > > > > > supplement there was an article about the changing times for both > > > > > > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema > > > > > > with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane > > > > >
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
I think it's more owing to lack of time, than any other care. The genius's hands are full with multilingual assignments. He himself clarified that position in an interview some time back. And let's not forget, he made lagaan for a new director, similarly jillunu kadhal, A T M, etc. He is at present having sakarakatti also. On 14/01/2008, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SOK is a masala movie > > On 1/14/08, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the director > > is a first-timer. > > > > The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > > cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no > > Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making > > the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old > > romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR > > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? > > > > Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema these > > days are the same old stories with similar song situations as well. > > There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a montage song > > of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like walking > > along the beach, talking, etc. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , " > > prashanth.palanisamy" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > hi vithur, > > > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani also would > > > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > > > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big directors its > > > fine..m talking about the small time budding directors...balaji > > > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his foray into > > > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in experimenting as > > > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more > > > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > > > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > > > thanks, > > > prashanth > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But > > > according > > > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can > > > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he > > > takes a > > > > film. > > > > > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good > > > screen play > > > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir > > > Kadhir > > > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > > > > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > > > different for > > > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different > > > case. > > > > > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > > > related to a > > > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing > > well, > > > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hi one and all, > > > > > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday > > > > > supplement there was an article about the changing times for both > > > > > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema > > > > > with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane > > > > > movies with big starsall the movies they spoke about were > > actually > > > > > goodlike paruthiveeran,mozhi,kallori,chennai 600028, etc > > etc...my > > > > > issue is that one common denominator missing was -ARRs name..i > > > > > think in hindi he has no problem..the movies ARR does are really > > > > > good..successful or not...but in tamil he does only masala > > movies(now > > > > > i.e)like say SIVAJI,SOK and ATM ..im not against the actors > > or the > > > > > movies i just think ARR should also work with the lesser but > > > > > talented directors what say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > regards, > > > > Vithur > > > > > > > > A.R.RAHMAN - THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Temet Nosce
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
SOK is a masala movie On 1/14/08, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the director > is a first-timer. > > The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil > cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no > Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making > the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old > romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR > supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? > > Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema these > days are the same old stories with similar song situations as well. > There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a montage song > of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like walking > along the beach, talking, etc. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , " > prashanth.palanisamy" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > hi vithur, > > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani also would > > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big directors its > > fine..m talking about the small time budding directors...balaji > > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his foray into > > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in experimenting as > > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more > > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > > thanks, > > prashanth > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But > > according > > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can > > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he > > takes a > > > film. > > > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good > > screen play > > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir > > Kadhir > > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > > different for > > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different > > case. > > > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > > related to a > > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing > well, > > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy wrote: > > > > > > > > hi one and all, > > > > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday > > > > supplement there was an article about the changing times for both > > > > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema > > > > with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane > > > > movies with big starsall the movies they spoke about were > actually > > > > goodlike paruthiveeran,mozhi,kallori,chennai 600028, etc > etc...my > > > > issue is that one common denominator missing was -ARRs name..i > > > > think in hindi he has no problem..the movies ARR does are really > > > > good..successful or not...but in tamil he does only masala > movies(now > > > > i.e)like say SIVAJI,SOK and ATM ..im not against the actors > or the > > > > movies i just think ARR should also work with the lesser but > > > > talented directors what say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > regards, > > > Vithur > > > > > > A.R.RAHMAN - THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC > > > > > > > >
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
Also he has done the music for Sakkarakatti. I believe the director is a first-timer. The problem is that there really are no strong directors in Tamil cinema of the current generation. No Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra, no Ashutosh Gowariker. Nobody with any freshness. Everyone is making the same old action/comedy/romance masala movies or boring old romances. Nothing invigorating. So how, in this climate, is ARR supposed to be inspired to create something brilliant? Even the so-called "rustic" or "realistic" films in Tamil cinema these days are the same old stories with similar song situations as well. There have been far too many Tamil films where there is a montage song of various scenes of the boy and girl doing cutesy things like walking along the beach, talking, etc. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "prashanth.palanisamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi vithur, > h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani also would > take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w > movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big directors its > fine..m talking about the small time budding directors...balaji > sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his foray into > this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in experimenting as > well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more > viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to > meviewable or notit should gel into the movie > thanks, > prashanth > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur wrote: > > > > Hi Prashanth > > > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But > according > > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can > > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he > takes a > > film. > > > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good > screen play > > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir > Kadhir > > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil > different for > > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different > case. > > > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get > related to a > > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing well, > > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc > > > > > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy wrote: > > > > > > hi one and all, > > > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday > > > supplement there was an article about the changing times for both > > > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema > > > with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane > > > movies with big starsall the movies they spoke about were actually > > > goodlike paruthiveeran,mozhi,kallori,chennai 600028, etc etc...my > > > issue is that one common denominator missing was -ARRs name..i > > > think in hindi he has no problem..the movies ARR does are really > > > good..successful or not...but in tamil he does only masala movies(now > > > i.e)like say SIVAJI,SOK and ATM ..im not against the actors or the > > > movies i just think ARR should also work with the lesser but > > > talented directors what say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > Vithur > > > > A.R.RAHMAN - THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC > > >
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
hi vithur, h...its been a while since kadhir made a movie and mani also would take a long time to make a tamil movie .considering his time b/w movies and his next being hindi...when he works with big directors its fine..m talking about the small time budding directors...balaji sakthivel,vishnuvardhan et alwell i think ATM was his foray into this but with vijay ...he would have constraints in experimenting as well.anyway i think the point about him making the movie more viewable might be true..but that sounds like being commercial to meviewable or notit should gel into the movie thanks, prashanth --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Prashanth > > I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But according > to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can > transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he takes a > film. > > well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good screen play > like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir Kadhir > does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . > > Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil different for > it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different case. > > ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get related to a > success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing well, > there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc > > > > On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > hi one and all, > > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday > > supplement there was an article about the changing times for both > > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema > > with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane > > movies with big starsall the movies they spoke about were actually > > goodlike paruthiveeran,mozhi,kallori,chennai 600028, etc etc...my > > issue is that one common denominator missing was -ARRs name..i > > think in hindi he has no problem..the movies ARR does are really > > good..successful or not...but in tamil he does only masala movies(now > > i.e)like say SIVAJI,SOK and ATM ..im not against the actors or the > > movies i just think ARR should also work with the lesser but > > talented directors what say > > > > > > > > > > -- > regards, > Vithur > > A.R.RAHMAN - THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC >
Re: [arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
Hi Prashanth I also read the same article.. What U are saying may be true. But according to me, I think ARR sees the script, and if he is convinced that he can transform the movie by making it more viewable through his Music, he takes a film. well, there are films done by ARR in Tamil, which do have a good screen play like Ayidha Ezhithu or for that matter any Maniratnam film. even dir Kadhir does a good job in his films, and ARR is favourite for Kadhir . Very rarely, ARR does masala movies in Tamil. ATM was also lil different for it was a sure different film even for Vijay. SOK may be a different case. ARR is big and grand and there is no need for his work to get related to a success of a film in Box Office. Irrespective of a film not doing well, there are films which run only for the sake of ARR's Music, BGMs etc On 1/13/08, prashanth.palanisamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi one and all, > well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday > supplement there was an article about the changing times for both > kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema > with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane > movies with big starsall the movies they spoke about were actually > goodlike paruthiveeran,mozhi,kallori,chennai 600028, etc etc...my > issue is that one common denominator missing was -ARRs name..i > think in hindi he has no problem..the movies ARR does are really > good..successful or not...but in tamil he does only masala movies(now > i.e)like say SIVAJI,SOK and ATM ..im not against the actors or the > movies i just think ARR should also work with the lesser but > talented directors what say > > > -- regards, Vithur A.R.RAHMAN - THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC
[arr] rahman + small time tamil directors!!
hi one and all, well i was reading a article in hindu today morning...in the sunday supplement there was an article about the changing times for both kollywood(yuch) and bollywood(yuch yuch!!)and how cinema with strong content and screenplay were doing well rather than inane movies with big starsall the movies they spoke about were actually goodlike paruthiveeran,mozhi,kallori,chennai 600028, etc etc...my issue is that one common denominator missing was -ARRs name..i think in hindi he has no problem..the movies ARR does are really good..successful or not...but in tamil he does only masala movies(now i.e)like say SIVAJI,SOK and ATM ..im not against the actors or the movies i just think ARR should also work with the lesser but talented directors what say
