ARSystem 7 and ITSM 7 Upgrades (UNCLASSIFIED)

2007-10-09 Thread Luttmann, Michael W CTR USA
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Listers - I humbly beseech the intelligent masses out there for some
quick talking points.  Tomorrow, I am briefing my chain-of-command
(paycheck signers) on our Remedy 6.3 system and current issues.  One
topic will be the pros and cons of upgrading ARSystem and/or ITSM from
6.x to 7.x.  

I've done an upgrade of the server portion before, and I can handle
that.  What I need would be: Why it is a good idea to attempt an upgrade
of ITSM.  I have the What's New documents, etc., but can't find any
really good summary of what would be gained (versus pain incurred in the
upgrade/migration process) to make it worthwhile, especially in a
one-man shop.  I just need bullet-type talking points.

Quick replies would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


Michael W. Luttmann
Fort Carson, CO

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
719.524.0514 

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Re: ARSystem 7 and ITSM 7 Upgrades (UNCLASSIFIED)

2007-10-09 Thread Rick Cook
There are several reasons that an organization might decide to migrate to
ITSM 7:

   - More effective ITIL Compliance.
   - Functionality to allow IT to better meet the needs of the business.
   - A desire to use top-flight Service Management tools.
   - A need to prove that BMC's implementations are WAY more time and
   cost-effective than SAP's.
   - ROI on upgrade is still worth the cost and time.
   - Unresolved masochistic issues on part of current
   developer/administrator.

Obviously, some of those might be more useful than others.  ;-)  I wish you
well.

Rick
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 Listers - I humbly beseech the intelligent masses out there for some
 quick talking points.  Tomorrow, I am briefing my chain-of-command
 (paycheck signers) on our Remedy 6.3 system and current issues.  One
 topic will be the pros and cons of upgrading ARSystem and/or ITSM from
 6.x to 7.x.

 I've done an upgrade of the server portion before, and I can handle
 that.  What I need would be: Why it is a good idea to attempt an upgrade
 of ITSM.  I have the What's New documents, etc., but can't find any
 really good summary of what would be gained (versus pain incurred in the
 upgrade/migration process) to make it worthwhile, especially in a
 one-man shop.  I just need bullet-type talking points.

 Quick replies would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


 Michael W. Luttmann
 Fort Carson, CO

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 719.524.0514

 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE

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Re: ARSystem 7 and ITSM 7 Upgrades (UNCLASSIFIED)

2007-10-09 Thread Luttmann, Michael W CTR USA
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Thanks, Rick.  I'll have to deal with that last bullet during my regular
therapy sessions.


Mike L. 


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**
There are several reasons that an organization might decide to migrate
to ITSM 7:  

*   More effective ITIL Compliance.
*   Functionality to allow IT to better meet the needs of the
business.
*   A desire to use top-flight Service Management tools.
*   A need to prove that BMC's implementations are WAY more time and
cost-effective than SAP's.
*   ROI on upgrade is still worth the cost and time.
*   Unresolved masochistic issues on part of current
developer/administrator.

Obviously, some of those might be more useful than others.  ;-)  I wish
you well.

Rick

On 10/9/07, Luttmann, Michael W CTR USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

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Listers - I humbly beseech the intelligent masses out there for
some 
quick talking points.  Tomorrow, I am briefing my
chain-of-command
(paycheck signers) on our Remedy 6.3 system and current issues.
One
topic will be the pros and cons of upgrading ARSystem and/or
ITSM from 
6.x to 7.x.

I've done an upgrade of the server portion before, and I can
handle
that.  What I need would be: Why it is a good idea to attempt an
upgrade
of ITSM.  I have the What's New documents, etc., but can't
find any 
really good summary of what would be gained (versus pain
incurred in the
upgrade/migration process) to make it worthwhile, especially in
a
one-man shop.  I just need bullet-type talking points.

Quick replies would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance. 


Michael W. Luttmann
Fort Carson, CO

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
719.524.0514

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Re: ARSystem 7 and ITSM 7 Upgrades (UNCLASSIFIED)

2007-10-09 Thread strauss
I would have to add the built-in multi-tenancy capability of ITSM 7,
with its improved data security and the possibility of decentralized
management and organizational-specific tools (categorizations,
templates, summaries, etc.,) as a major reason for the migration.  If
you have _ever_ had any groups that wanted their tickets to be secured
from visibility, or who basically wanted to control their own piece of
the application, ITSM 7 will do this OOTB.  You have to be willing to
give up Guest user access, but a lot of sites have never allowed that
anyway; we never have.

Of course, multi-tenancy can make configuration significantly more
complicated, depending on how far down you decide to segment your
organization(s), and that is reflected in Rick's last bullet on
masochism.  Multi-tenancy has been the primary selling point for ITSM 7
here; we never went to ITSM 6 from 5.5 since there was so little to be
gained in app functionality.  ITIL is not a factor, there are only three
of us here who know what it means; we get more mileage out of the best
practices for IT service support translation.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ 

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 Thanks, Rick.  I'll have to deal with that last bullet during 
 my regular therapy sessions.
 
 
 Mike L. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:12 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: ARSystem 7 and ITSM 7 Upgrades (UNCLASSIFIED)
 
 **
 There are several reasons that an organization might decide 
 to migrate to ITSM 7:  
 
 * More effective ITIL Compliance.
 * Functionality to allow IT to better meet the needs of the
 business.
 * A desire to use top-flight Service Management tools.
 * A need to prove that BMC's implementations are WAY more time and
 cost-effective than SAP's.
 * ROI on upgrade is still worth the cost and time.
 * Unresolved masochistic issues on part of current
 developer/administrator.
 
 Obviously, some of those might be more useful than others.  
 ;-)  I wish you well.
 
 Rick
 
 On 10/9/07, Luttmann, Michael W CTR USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Listers - I humbly beseech the intelligent masses out 
 there for some 
   quick talking points.  Tomorrow, I am briefing my 
 chain-of-command
   (paycheck signers) on our Remedy 6.3 system and current issues.
 One
   topic will be the pros and cons of upgrading ARSystem 
 and/or ITSM from 
   6.x to 7.x.
   
   I've done an upgrade of the server portion before, and 
 I can handle
   that.  What I need would be: Why it is a good idea to 
 attempt an upgrade
   of ITSM.  I have the What's New documents, etc., but 
 can't find any 
   really good summary of what would be gained (versus 
 pain incurred in the
   upgrade/migration process) to make it worthwhile, 
 especially in a
   one-man shop.  I just need bullet-type talking points.
   
   Quick replies would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance. 
   
   
   Michael W. Luttmann
   Fort Carson, CO
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   719.524.0514
   
   Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
   Caveats: NONE
 
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