Re: Development Question

[Joe D'Souza]

Group Type of 'None' does not make a group a permission group. It becomes
only a notification type of a group. So yes that was your problem.

 

Joe

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Simon Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Development Question

 

Think I've found the problem.. On the Group form the group type was set as
none, where as in DEV it was set as Change, everything else was the same.
Flicking between the two allowed the panel tab to become visible.. Now noted
for when I release to staging and prod..

 

Cheers

 

Simon

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Thad Esser
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2014 2:25 p.m.
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Development Question

 

** 

Simon,

 

Are the Group IDs on the Group form for the Company in question the same
between your Dev and Test environments?

 

Thad

 

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Simon Ellis 
wrote:

Seemed to have stumped myself In a multi tenated solution i've created a
new panel on the HPD:Help Desk form,
added a panel holder and additional panels within that.  The new panel is
only visible to members of one company.
The People records have the Company listed in the Access Restictions box of
there people record.  To establish the permissions for this tab, I mapped a
role to a group and through DEV studio set permissions for the Panel so that
role/group only have access.  In our DEV environment where i developed this,
it works like a dream, if you have the company listed in your people record
under access restrictions no problem you can view the tab and you can log
and search for tickets for that company.  If you don't you can't see the
tab/panel and you can't log tickets for that company.  When i've moved this
through into our Test environment, users with the correct access
restrictions can create and search tickets
for this company but can't view the new tab/panel.  As the administrator i
can.  Permissions of the form are identical.

Can't fathom out if i've missed something out, done something in DEV that
i've forgotten to move through

any ideas?


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Re: Development Question

[Simon Ellis]

Think I've found the problem On the Group form the group type was set as 
none, where as in DEV it was set as Change, everything else was the same.  
Flicking between the two allowed the panel tab to become visible Now noted 
for when I release to staging and prod

Cheers

Simon

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Thad Esser
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2014 2:25 p.m.
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Development Question

**
Simon,

Are the Group IDs on the Group form for the Company in question the same 
between your Dev and Test environments?

Thad

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Simon Ellis 
mailto:simon.el...@telecom.co.nz>> wrote:
Seemed to have stumped myself In a multi tenated solution i've created a 
new panel on the HPD:Help Desk form,
added a panel holder and additional panels within that.  The new panel is only 
visible to members of one company.
The People records have the Company listed in the Access Restictions box of 
there people record.  To establish the permissions for this tab, I mapped a 
role to a group and through DEV studio set permissions for the Panel so that 
role/group only have access.  In our DEV environment where i developed this, it 
works like a dream, if you have the company listed in your people record under 
access restrictions no problem you can view the tab and you can log and search 
for tickets for that company.  If you don't you can't see the tab/panel and you 
can't log tickets for that company.  When i've moved this through into our Test 
environment, users with the correct access restrictions can create and search 
tickets
for this company but can't view the new tab/panel.  As the administrator i can. 
 Permissions of the form are identical.

Can't fathom out if i've missed something out, done something in DEV that i've 
forgotten to move through

any ideas?

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Re: Development Question

[Thad Esser]

Simon,

Are the Group IDs on the Group form for the Company in question the same
between your Dev and Test environments?

Thad


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Simon Ellis wrote:

> Seemed to have stumped myself In a multi tenated solution i've created
> a new panel on the HPD:Help Desk form,
> added a panel holder and additional panels within that.  The new panel is
> only visible to members of one company.
> The People records have the Company listed in the Access Restictions box
> of there people record.  To establish the permissions for this tab, I
> mapped a role to a group and through DEV studio set permissions for the
> Panel so that role/group only have access.  In our DEV environment where i
> developed this, it works like a dream, if you have the company listed in
> your people record under access restrictions no problem you can view the
> tab and you can log and search for tickets for that company.  If you don't
> you can't see the tab/panel and you can't log tickets for that company.
>  When i've moved this through into our Test environment, users with the
> correct access restrictions can create and search tickets
> for this company but can't view the new tab/panel.  As the administrator i
> can.  Permissions of the form are identical.
>
> Can't fathom out if i've missed something out, done something in DEV that
> i've forgotten to move through
>
> any ideas?
>
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Development Question

[Stroud, Natalie K]

Simon:

The only suggestion I'd have is to try resetting the access restriction for the 
user in your TEST environment, i.e. remove it, save the People record, then 
re-add it and resave the People record.

I can't tell you the number of flaky little access-type problems I've solved 
doing that little dance with permissions and anything else that gives or 
removes access.

Good luck!

Natalie Stroud
SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories
ARS-ITSM Reporting Specialist
Albuquerque, NM USA
nkst...@sandia.gov
ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Simon Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:31 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Development Question

Seemed to have stumped myself In a multi tenated solution i've created a 
new panel on the HPD:Help Desk form, added a panel holder and additional panels 
within that.  The new panel is only visible to members of one company.
The People records have the Company listed in the Access Restictions box of 
there people record.  To establish the permissions for this tab, I mapped a 
role to a group and through DEV studio set permissions for the Panel so that 
role/group only have access.  In our DEV environment where i developed this, it 
works like a dream, if you have the company listed in your people record under 
access restrictions no problem you can view the tab and you can log and search 
for tickets for that company.  If you don't you can't see the tab/panel and you 
can't log tickets for that company.  When i've moved this through into our Test 
environment, users with the correct access restrictions can create and search 
tickets for this company but can't view the new tab/panel.  As the 
administrator i can.  Permissions of the form are identical.

Can't fathom out if i've missed something out, done something in DEV that i've 
forgotten to move through

any ideas?

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Development Question

[Simon Ellis]

Seemed to have stumped myself In a multi tenated solution i've created a 
new panel on the HPD:Help Desk form,
added a panel holder and additional panels within that.  The new panel is only 
visible to members of one company.
The People records have the Company listed in the Access Restictions box of 
there people record.  To establish the permissions for this tab, I mapped a 
role to a group and through DEV studio set permissions for the Panel so that 
role/group only have access.  In our DEV environment where i developed this, it 
works like a dream, if you have the company listed in your people record under 
access restrictions no problem you can view the tab and you can log and search 
for tickets for that company.  If you don't you can't see the tab/panel and you 
can't log tickets for that company.  When i've moved this through into our Test 
environment, users with the correct access restrictions can create and search 
tickets
for this company but can't view the new tab/panel.  As the administrator i can. 
 Permissions of the form are identical.

Can't fathom out if i've missed something out, done something in DEV that i've 
forgotten to move through

any ideas?

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Re: Development question

[Misi Mladoniczky]

Hi,

Well, I don't think it's a bug, and I don't think they will "fix it".

I suggest that you try it, and then ask BMC if this is as designed.

The consistency of this "bug" is thorough, and I have depended heavily on
it in an internal RRR-system I built right after 7.6.04 was released.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

> Very happy until reading your last sentence :)
>
> I can't provide a development based on a "bug". If someday BMC "solves"
> it,
> then my development will crash.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jose M. Huerta
> Project Manager**
>
> Movil: 661 665 088
>
> Telf.: 971 75 03 24
>
> Fax: 971 75 07 94
>
>  <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>
>
> SM2 Baleares S.A.
> C/Rita Levi 
>
> Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
>
> 07121 Palma de Mallorca
>
>   <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954>
>   <http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares>
>  <http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares>
>
> La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
> confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea
> leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje
> por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
> que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del
> mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de
> inmediato.
>
> P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es
> necesario.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Misi Mladoniczky  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you walk your table, and then perform a service-call to the
>> details-records one at a time.
>>
>> Whatever happens inside that service-call (a push-fields to the
>> details-record in this case), will be committed to the database before
>> the
>> service-call exits.
>>
>> This will then enable you to do a COLSUM(), or some such thing, on your
>> details-records after your table-walk has been completed.
>>
>> The drawback is that the details-updates will be committed to the
>> database
>> even though a later update should fail with an error...
>>
>> Another drawback is that Doug Mueller has told me that if it works like
>> that, it is a bug, and should be fixed. But I have seen no evidence of
>> this being addressed in the 3 service packs released so far...
>>
>>Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>>
>> Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
>> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
>> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
>> logs.
>> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
>> http://rrr.se.
>>
>> > Can't use active links. The parameter can be changed from another form
>> > using a push and active links won't be triggered.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > El miércoles, 13 de junio de 2012, Joel Sender escribió:
>> >
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >> Jose,
>> >>
>> >> You might try it in stages;
>> >>
>> >> **1.   **An active link pushes the new Invoice value to all the
>> >> detail entries
>> >>
>> >> **2.   **A filter recalculates each detail’s value(s)
>> >>
>> >> **3.   **A second active link (higher exec order) recalculates
>> (or
>> >> triggers filters to recalc) Invoice values from the detail
>> entries.
>> >>
>> >> HTH,
>> >>
>> >> *Joel***
>> >>
>> >> Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net > >> 'jdsen...@earthlink.net');>310.829.5552
>> >>
>> >> ** **
>> >>
>> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > ');>]
>> >> *On
>> >> Behalf Of *Jose Huerta
>> >> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 5:27 AM
>> >> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > >> 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG');>
>> >> *Subject:* Development question
>> >>
>> >> ** **
>> >>
>> >> ** Hi listers,
>> >>
>> >> ** **
>> >>
>> >> I have a question for developers. I've got a solution, but I want to
>> >> 

Re: Development question

[Jose Huerta]

Very happy until reading your last sentence :)

I can't provide a development based on a "bug". If someday BMC "solves" it,
then my development will crash.

Thanks!

Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager**

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94

 <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>

SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

  <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954>
  <http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares>
 <http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares>

La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea
leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje
por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del
mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de
inmediato.

P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es
necesario.



On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Misi Mladoniczky  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you walk your table, and then perform a service-call to the
> details-records one at a time.
>
> Whatever happens inside that service-call (a push-fields to the
> details-record in this case), will be committed to the database before the
> service-call exits.
>
> This will then enable you to do a COLSUM(), or some such thing, on your
> details-records after your table-walk has been completed.
>
> The drawback is that the details-updates will be committed to the database
> even though a later update should fail with an error...
>
> Another drawback is that Doug Mueller has told me that if it works like
> that, it is a bug, and should be fixed. But I have seen no evidence of
> this being addressed in the 3 service packs released so far...
>
>Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.
>
> > Can't use active links. The parameter can be changed from another form
> > using a push and active links won't be triggered.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > El miércoles, 13 de junio de 2012, Joel Sender escribió:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >> Jose,
> >>
> >> You might try it in stages;
> >>
> >> **1.   **An active link pushes the new Invoice value to all the
> >> detail entries
> >>
> >> **2.   **A filter recalculates each detail’s value(s)
> >>
> >> **3.   **A second active link (higher exec order) recalculates (or
> >> triggers filters to recalc) Invoice values from the detail entries.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> *Joel***
> >>
> >> Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net  >> 'jdsen...@earthlink.net');>310.829.5552
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  ');>]
> >> *On
> >> Behalf Of *Jose Huerta
> >> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 5:27 AM
> >> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  >> 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG');>
> >> *Subject:* Development question
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** Hi listers,
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> I have a question for developers. I've got a solution, but I want to
> >> know
> >> if there is a better option, since it doesn't satisfy me 100%.
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Here's the case (It's not really my case, but a simplified version of
> >> it):
> >> 
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> I have one form: AAA:Invoices.
> >>
> >> This form has a table field that shows related requests on
> >> AAA:DetailLines.
> >> 
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> So each invoice in AAA:Invoices is related to several Detail Lines in
> >> AAA:DetailLines.
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> I have a field in AAA:Invoices that is a parameter used to compute the
> >> value of the detail lines. I call it: InvoiceParameter.
> >>
> >> I have a filter that when Invo

Re: Development question

[Misi Mladoniczky]

Hi,

If you walk your table, and then perform a service-call to the
details-records one at a time.

Whatever happens inside that service-call (a push-fields to the
details-record in this case), will be committed to the database before the
service-call exits.

This will then enable you to do a COLSUM(), or some such thing, on your
details-records after your table-walk has been completed.

The drawback is that the details-updates will be committed to the database
even though a later update should fail with an error...

Another drawback is that Doug Mueller has told me that if it works like
that, it is a bug, and should be fixed. But I have seen no evidence of
this being addressed in the 3 service packs released so far...

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
* RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

> Can't use active links. The parameter can be changed from another form
> using a push and active links won't be triggered.
>
> Thanks!
>
> El miércoles, 13 de junio de 2012, Joel Sender escribió:
>
>> **
>>
>> Jose,
>>
>> You might try it in stages;
>>
>> **1.   **An active link pushes the new Invoice value to all the
>> detail entries
>>
>> **2.   **A filter recalculates each detail’s value(s)
>>
>> **3.   **A second active link (higher exec order) recalculates (or
>> triggers filters to recalc) Invoice values from the detail entries.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> *Joel***
>>
>> Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net > 'jdsen...@earthlink.net');>310.829.5552
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ]
>> *On
>> Behalf Of *Jose Huerta
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 5:27 AM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG');>
>> *Subject:* Development question
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** Hi listers,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I have a question for developers. I've got a solution, but I want to
>> know
>> if there is a better option, since it doesn't satisfy me 100%.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Here's the case (It's not really my case, but a simplified version of
>> it):
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I have one form: AAA:Invoices.
>>
>> This form has a table field that shows related requests on
>> AAA:DetailLines.
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> So each invoice in AAA:Invoices is related to several Detail Lines in
>> AAA:DetailLines.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I have a field in AAA:Invoices that is a parameter used to compute the
>> value of the detail lines. I call it: InvoiceParameter.
>>
>> I have a filter that when InvoiceParameter is changed, it propagates it
>> to
>> all related detail lines. When those lines are modified, they
>> automatically
>> (with filters) recalculate their value.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I also have a total value field at AAA:Invoices that it is the sum of
>> the
>> detail lines. I want to keep it updated, so I thinked some options, but
>> concurrency makes the result going wrong.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Summarizing the case: The objective is that when modifying the field
>> InvoiceParameter at an Invoice, it propagates to the detail lines,
>> recalculating its value, and returns to the invoice with the total as
>> the
>> sum of all detail lines.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If I do it with a filter, the contents of the table at AAA:Invoice is
>> not
>> updated until the end of the transaction. So I can't see the new values.
>> And If I use parameter sending, only one of the detail lines, do
>> actually
>> change the value, the rest are lost, (beacuse concurrency).
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Using the override phase at PUSH actions, it overrides the ARS action,
>> but
>> not the SQL sending, that is sent at the end.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> My solution is to have a filter at AAA:Invoice that propagates the
>> InvoiceParameter to the detail lines. Then the detail lines compute the
>> result and make a PUSH to the Invoice marking a flag field (so no
>> concurrency error is possible).  Then an escalation executes at e

Re: Development question

[Jose Huerta]

Can't use active links. The parameter can be changed from another form
using a push and active links won't be triggered.

Thanks!

El miércoles, 13 de junio de 2012, Joel Sender escribió:

> **
>
> Jose,
>
> You might try it in stages;
>
> **1.   **An active link pushes the new Invoice value to all the
> detail entries
>
> **2.   **A filter recalculates each detail’s value(s)
>
> **3.   **A second active link (higher exec order) recalculates (or
> triggers filters to recalc) Invoice values from the detail entries.
>
> HTH,
>
> *Joel***
>
> Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net  'jdsen...@earthlink.net');>310.829.5552
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On
> Behalf Of *Jose Huerta
> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 5:27 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG');>
> *Subject:* Development question
>
> ** **
>
> ** Hi listers,
>
> ** **
>
> I have a question for developers. I've got a solution, but I want to know
> if there is a better option, since it doesn't satisfy me 100%.
>
> ** **
>
> Here's the case (It's not really my case, but a simplified version of it):
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I have one form: AAA:Invoices.
>
> This form has a table field that shows related requests on AAA:DetailLines.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> So each invoice in AAA:Invoices is related to several Detail Lines in
> AAA:DetailLines.
>
> ** **
>
> I have a field in AAA:Invoices that is a parameter used to compute the
> value of the detail lines. I call it: InvoiceParameter.
>
> I have a filter that when InvoiceParameter is changed, it propagates it to
> all related detail lines. When those lines are modified, they automatically
> (with filters) recalculate their value.
>
> ** **
>
> I also have a total value field at AAA:Invoices that it is the sum of the
> detail lines. I want to keep it updated, so I thinked some options, but
> concurrency makes the result going wrong.
>
> ** **
>
> Summarizing the case: The objective is that when modifying the field
> InvoiceParameter at an Invoice, it propagates to the detail lines,
> recalculating its value, and returns to the invoice with the total as the
> sum of all detail lines.
>
> ** **
>
> If I do it with a filter, the contents of the table at AAA:Invoice is not
> updated until the end of the transaction. So I can't see the new values.
> And If I use parameter sending, only one of the detail lines, do actually
> change the value, the rest are lost, (beacuse concurrency).
>
> ** **
>
> Using the override phase at PUSH actions, it overrides the ARS action, but
> not the SQL sending, that is sent at the end.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> My solution is to have a filter at AAA:Invoice that propagates the
> InvoiceParameter to the detail lines. Then the detail lines compute the
> result and make a PUSH to the Invoice marking a flag field (so no
> concurrency error is possible).  Then an escalation executes at every
> minute on marked invoices, that computes the total.
>
> ** **
>
> I hate using escalations for complex computations. Do you know any other
> way to achieve my objective without escalations?
>
> Jose M. Huerta
> Project Manager
>
> Movil: 661 665 088
>
> Telf.: 971 75 03 24
>
> Fax: 971 75 07 94
>
> <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>
>
> SM2 Baleares S.A.
>
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Re: Development question

[Joel Sender]

Jose,

You might try it in stages;

1.   An active link pushes the new Invoice value to all the detail entries

2.   A filter recalculates each detail’s value(s)

3.   A second active link (higher exec order) recalculates (or triggers 
filters to recalc) Invoice values from the detail entries.

HTH,

Joel

Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net310.829.5552

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Development question

 

** Hi listers,

 

I have a question for developers. I've got a solution, but I want to know if 
there is a better option, since it doesn't satisfy me 100%.

 

Here's the case (It's not really my case, but a simplified version of it):

 

I have one form: AAA:Invoices.

This form has a table field that shows related requests on AAA:DetailLines.

 

So each invoice in AAA:Invoices is related to several Detail Lines in 
AAA:DetailLines.

 

I have a field in AAA:Invoices that is a parameter used to compute the value of 
the detail lines. I call it: InvoiceParameter.

I have a filter that when InvoiceParameter is changed, it propagates it to all 
related detail lines. When those lines are modified, they automatically (with 
filters) recalculate their value.

 

I also have a total value field at AAA:Invoices that it is the sum of the 
detail lines. I want to keep it updated, so I thinked some options, but 
concurrency makes the result going wrong.

 

Summarizing the case: The objective is that when modifying the field 
InvoiceParameter at an Invoice, it propagates to the detail lines, 
recalculating its value, and returns to the invoice with the total as the sum 
of all detail lines.

 

If I do it with a filter, the contents of the table at AAA:Invoice is not 
updated until the end of the transaction. So I can't see the new values. And If 
I use parameter sending, only one of the detail lines, do actually change the 
value, the rest are lost, (beacuse concurrency).

 

Using the override phase at PUSH actions, it overrides the ARS action, but not 
the SQL sending, that is sent at the end.

 

 

My solution is to have a filter at AAA:Invoice that propagates the 
InvoiceParameter to the detail lines. Then the detail lines compute the result 
and make a PUSH to the Invoice marking a flag field (so no concurrency error is 
possible).  Then an escalation executes at every minute on marked invoices, 
that computes the total.

 

I hate using escalations for complex computations. Do you know any other way to 
achieve my objective without escalations?


Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94

 <http://www.sm2baleares.es/> 


SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

  <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954>  
<http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares>  
<http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares> 

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Development question

[Jose Huerta]

Hi listers,

I have a question for developers. I've got a solution, but I want to know
if there is a better option, since it doesn't satisfy me 100%.

Here's the case (It's not really my case, but a simplified version of it):

I have one form: AAA:Invoices.
This form has a table field that shows related requests on AAA:DetailLines.

So each invoice in AAA:Invoices is related to several Detail Lines in
AAA:DetailLines.

I have a field in AAA:Invoices that is a parameter used to compute the
value of the detail lines. I call it: InvoiceParameter.
I have a filter that when InvoiceParameter is changed, it propagates it to
all related detail lines. When those lines are modified, they automatically
(with filters) recalculate their value.

I also have a total value field at AAA:Invoices that it is the sum of the
detail lines. I want to keep it updated, so I thinked some options, but
concurrency makes the result going wrong.

Summarizing the case: The objective is that when modifying the field
InvoiceParameter at an Invoice, it propagates to the detail lines,
recalculating its value, and returns to the invoice with the total as the
sum of all detail lines.

If I do it with a filter, the contents of the table at AAA:Invoice is not
updated until the end of the transaction. So I can't see the new values.
And If I use parameter sending, only one of the detail lines, do actually
change the value, the rest are lost, (beacuse concurrency).

Using the override phase at PUSH actions, it overrides the ARS action, but
not the SQL sending, that is sent at the end.


My solution is to have a filter at AAA:Invoice that propagates the
InvoiceParameter to the detail lines. Then the detail lines compute the
result and make a PUSH to the Invoice marking a flag field (so no
concurrency error is possible).  Then an escalation executes at every
minute on marked invoices, that computes the total.

I hate using escalations for complex computations. Do you know any other
way to achieve my objective without escalations?

Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager**

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94



SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

  
  
 

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Re: Development question

[Jose Huerta]

Yes, Misi. It is a very strange requirement, but, you know, the client can
be vary strange sometimes...


Jose M. Huerta
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Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94

 <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>

SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

  <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954>
  <http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares>
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por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
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On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 13:30, Misi Mladoniczky  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think you should go with your original plan and set a third field when
> both A and B has been set. Alternatively use the SET-CHANGE-FLAG to 1
> whenever both fields have values.
>
> I presume taht by saying "A is changed" you mean ('A' != $NULL$), as this
> is a display-only-field?
>
>Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.
>
> > No. Since it can be used in filters. Mmm. I will explain deeper and more
> > abstract.
> >
> > Imagine the next case.
> >
> > If field A is changed -> No change
> > If field B is changed -> No change
> > If field A and B are changed -> It changes.
> >
> > So if i set disable change to both, the third option won't work. I was
> > planning to add a third field and active link that changes it only if
> both
> > fields A and B are changed. But looking for another ideas.
> >
> > Jose M. Huerta
> > Project Manager**
> >
> > Movil: 661 665 088
> >
> > Telf.: 971 75 03 24
> >
> > Fax: 971 75 07 94
> >
> >  <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>
> >
> > SM2 Baleares S.A.
> > C/Rita Levi 
> >
> > Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
> >
> > 07121 Palma de Mallorca
> >
> >   <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954>
> >   <http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares>
> >  <http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares>
> >
> > La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
> > confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea
> > leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje
> > por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
> > que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del
> > mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de
> > inmediato.
> >
> > P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es
> > necesario.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 15:45, Hyunkel v2.0
> > wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >> Jose;
> >>
> >> Is that field set as "disabled change flag" on its field properties?
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> >>
> >> *Hugo Ruesga*
> >> *Software Development Advisor*
> >> US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
> >> MX +52 (33) 3332.3868
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:34:14 +0100

Re: Development question

[Misi Mladoniczky]

Hi,

I think you should go with your original plan and set a third field when
both A and B has been set. Alternatively use the SET-CHANGE-FLAG to 1
whenever both fields have values.

I presume taht by saying "A is changed" you mean ('A' != $NULL$), as this
is a display-only-field?

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

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> No. Since it can be used in filters. Mmm. I will explain deeper and more
> abstract.
>
> Imagine the next case.
>
> If field A is changed -> No change
> If field B is changed -> No change
> If field A and B are changed -> It changes.
>
> So if i set disable change to both, the third option won't work. I was
> planning to add a third field and active link that changes it only if both
> fields A and B are changed. But looking for another ideas.
>
> Jose M. Huerta
> Project Manager**
>
> Movil: 661 665 088
>
> Telf.: 971 75 03 24
>
> Fax: 971 75 07 94
>
>  <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>
>
> SM2 Baleares S.A.
> C/Rita Levi 
>
> Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
>
> 07121 Palma de Mallorca
>
>   <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954>
>   <http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares>
>  <http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares>
>
> La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
> confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea
> leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje
> por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
> que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del
> mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de
> inmediato.
>
> P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es
> necesario.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 15:45, Hyunkel v2.0
> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Jose;
>>
>> Is that field set as "disabled change flag" on its field properties?
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> *Hugo Ruesga*
>> *Software Development Advisor*
>> US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
>> MX +52 (33) 3332.3868
>>
>> P Please consider the environment before printing this email
>>
>> *The information contained in and transferred with this electronic
>> message is intended only for the recipient(s) designated above, it is
>> protected by law and it may contain information which is privileged and
>> confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read,
>> copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the
>> sender
>> of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it
>> from
>> your system. **Thank you.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:34:14 +0100
>> From: jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es
>> Subject: Development question
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>
>> ** Hi listers,
>>
>> Let's take the next example. Imagine we have a form, where there is some
>> display only field used to start some active link workflow. But if the
>> user
>> only changed this field I don't want that ARS consider the request as
>> "modified" and then prompts the user to abandon changes when he closes
>> the
>> form.
>>
>> For instance a regular form with related forms. The related requests are
>> shown in a table field. And some display only fields allow selecting the
>> filtering of the table field. If someone changes the data of those
>> fields
>> to filter the table field and then closes the form, ARS prompts that if
>> he
>> abandon the form he will loose the changes.
>>
>> I have some ideas about avoiding it, but I want to know your opinion and
>> how do you handle it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jose M. Huerta
>> Project Manager**
>>
>> Movil: 661 665 088
>>
>> Telf.: 971 75 03 24
>>
>> Fax: 971 75 07 94
>>
>> <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>
>>
>> SM2 Baleares S.A.
>> C/Rita Levi 
>>
>> Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
>>
>> 07121 Palma de Mallorca
>>
>>   <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954>
>> <ht

Re: Development question

[Garrison, Sean (Norcross)]

You ever thought about using the “Service” workflow?

Thanks,

Sean

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Development question

** Hi listers,

Let's take the next example. Imagine we have a form, where there is some 
display only field used to start some active link workflow. But if the user 
only changed this field I don't want that ARS consider the request as 
"modified" and then prompts the user to abandon changes when he closes the form.

For instance a regular form with related forms. The related requests are shown 
in a table field. And some display only fields allow selecting the filtering of 
the table field. If someone changes the data of those fields to filter the 
table field and then closes the form, ARS prompts that if he abandon the form 
he will loose the changes.

I have some ideas about avoiding it, but I want to know your opinion and how do 
you handle it.

Thanks,

Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94


[cid:image001.jpg@01CCF6F8.3BCB6710]<http://www.sm2baleares.es/>


SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca


 [cid:image002.jpg@01CCF6F8.3BCB6710] 
<http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954> 
[cid:image003.jpg@01CCF6F8.3BCB6710] <http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares> 
[cid:image004.jpg@01CCF6F8.3BCB6710] 
<http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares>


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Re: Development question

[Jose Huerta]

The problem is that I didn't explain it very well. I knew about this
property.

My question was about controlling the change flag by workflow. I know how
to do it right now. Resolved.

 Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager**

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94

 <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>

SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

  <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954>
  <http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares>
 <http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares>

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por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
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On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 18:57, pritch  wrote:

> I believe you're looking for the 'Disable Change Flag' property which is
> on the properties of the field.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jose Huerta" 
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:34:14 AM
> Subject: Development question
>
> ** Hi listers,
>
>
> Let's take the next example. Imagine we have a form, where there is some
> display only field used to start some active link workflow. But if the user
> only changed this field I don't want that ARS consider the request as
> "modified" and then prompts the user to abandon changes when he closes the
> form.
>
>
> For instance a regular form with related forms. The related requests are
> shown in a table field. And some display only fields allow selecting the
> filtering of the table field. If someone changes the data of those fields
> to filter the table field and then closes the form, ARS prompts that if he
> abandon the form he will loose the changes.
>
>
> I have some ideas about avoiding it, but I want to know your opinion and
> how do you handle it.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Jose M. Huerta
> Project Manager
>
> Movil: 661 665 088
>
> Telf.: 971 75 03 24
>
> Fax: 971 75 07 94
>
>
>
>
> SM2 Baleares S.A.
> C/Rita Levi
>
> Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
>
> 07121 Palma de Mallorca
>
>
>
> La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
> confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea
> leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje
> por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
> que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del
> mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de
> inmediato.
>
> P   Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es
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Re: Development question

[pritch]

I believe you're looking for the 'Disable Change Flag' property which is on the 
properties of the field.  

- Original Message -
From: "Jose Huerta" 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:34:14 AM
Subject: Development question

** Hi listers, 


Let's take the next example. Imagine we have a form, where there is some 
display only field used to start some active link workflow. But if the user 
only changed this field I don't want that ARS consider the request as 
"modified" and then prompts the user to abandon changes when he closes the 
form. 


For instance a regular form with related forms. The related requests are shown 
in a table field. And some display only fields allow selecting the filtering of 
the table field. If someone changes the data of those fields to filter the 
table field and then closes the form, ARS prompts that if he abandon the form 
he will loose the changes. 


I have some ideas about avoiding it, but I want to know your opinion and how do 
you handle it. 


Thanks, 


Jose M. Huerta 
Project Manager 

Movil: 661 665 088 

Telf.: 971 75 03 24 

Fax: 971 75 07 94   




SM2 Baleares S.A. 
C/Rita Levi  

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit 

07121 Palma de Mallorca 

    

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Re: Development question [I]

[Jose Huerta]

I knew that it was a better option... thanks.

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> Jose,
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> If you want to do it workflow, look up  GET-CHANGE-FLAG and
> SET-CHANGE-FLAG in the *Workflow Objects* guide.
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> **
> Jose;
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> Is that field set as "disabled change flag" on its field properties?
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> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:34:14 +0100
> From: jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es
> Subject: Development question
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>
> ** Hi listers,
>
> Let's take the next example. Imagine we have a form, where there is some
> display only field used to start some active link workflow. But if the user
> only changed this field I don't want that ARS consider the request as
> "modified" and then prompts the user to abandon changes when he closes the
> form.
>
> For instance a regular form with related forms. The related requests are
> shown in a table field. And some display only fields allow selecting the
> filtering of the table field. If someone changes the data of those fields
> to filter the table field and then closes the form, ARS prompts that if he
> abandon the form he will loose the changes.
>
> I have some ideas about avoiding it, but I want to know your opinion and
> how do you handle it.
>
> Thanks,  Jose M. Huerta
> Project Manager
> Movil: 661 665 088
> Telf.: 971 75 03 24
> Fax: 971 75 07 94
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Re: Development question

[Jose Huerta]

No. Since it can be used in filters. Mmm. I will explain deeper and more
abstract.

Imagine the next case.

If field A is changed -> No change
If field B is changed -> No change
If field A and B are changed -> It changes.

So if i set disable change to both, the third option won't work. I was
planning to add a third field and active link that changes it only if both
fields A and B are changed. But looking for another ideas.

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> Cheers.
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> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:34:14 +0100
> From: jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es
> Subject: Development question
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>
> ** Hi listers,
>
> Let's take the next example. Imagine we have a form, where there is some
> display only field used to start some active link workflow. But if the user
> only changed this field I don't want that ARS consider the request as
> "modified" and then prompts the user to abandon changes when he closes the
> form.
>
> For instance a regular form with related forms. The related requests are
> shown in a table field. And some display only fields allow selecting the
> filtering of the table field. If someone changes the data of those fields
> to filter the table field and then closes the form, ARS prompts that if he
> abandon the form he will loose the changes.
>
> I have some ideas about avoiding it, but I want to know your opinion and
> how do you handle it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jose M. Huerta
> Project Manager**
>
> Movil: 661 665 088
>
> Telf.: 971 75 03 24
>
> Fax: 971 75 07 94
>
> <http://www.sm2baleares.es/>
>
> SM2 Baleares S.A.
> C/Rita Levi 
>
> Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
>
> 07121 Palma de Mallorca
>
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Re: Development question

[Hyunkel v2.0]

Jose;

Is that field set as "disabled change flag" on its field properties?

Cheers.


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Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:34:14 +0100
From: jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es
Subject: Development question
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

**
Hi listers,
Let's take the next example. Imagine we have a form, where there is some 
display only field used to start some active link workflow. But if the user 
only changed this field I don't want that ARS consider the request as 
"modified" and then prompts the user to abandon changes when he closes the form.


For instance a regular form with related forms. The related requests are shown 
in a table field. And some display only fields allow selecting the filtering of 
the table field. If someone changes the data of those fields to filter the 
table field and then closes the form, ARS prompts that if he abandon the form 
he will loose the changes.


I have some ideas about avoiding it, but I want to know your opinion and how do 
you handle it.
Thanks,



Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager

Movil: 661 665 088Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94





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C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

 

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Development question

[Jose Huerta]

Hi listers,

Let's take the next example. Imagine we have a form, where there is some
display only field used to start some active link workflow. But if the user
only changed this field I don't want that ARS consider the request as
"modified" and then prompts the user to abandon changes when he closes the
form.

For instance a regular form with related forms. The related requests are
shown in a table field. And some display only fields allow selecting the
filtering of the table field. If someone changes the data of those fields
to filter the table field and then closes the form, ARS prompts that if he
abandon the form he will loose the changes.

I have some ideas about avoiding it, but I want to know your opinion and
how do you handle it.

Thanks,

Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager**

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94



SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

  
  
 

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