Re: ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > >> Thanks for the suggestion - it sounds plausible. If I remember > >> correctly, it asks for the time when you boot up, but I might not be > >> remembering it properly so I'll give it a try soon. > > > > I think you're tilting windmills with that. > > > > PMAG-J apparently isn't related to any of the other turbochannel > > display adapters. Do you have the right Xserver package installed to > > drive it? AFAIK it's the "True Color Server", but I'm not sure what > > the package name is. UDWWSTSER450 or UDWXTXSER450 perhaps. > > > > > > ok > > bear. > > I installed to a fairly large disk so didn't skip any of the Xserver > packages, although for now I've just been trying to boot with a console > attached. So, not so sure if X is the issue. > > I can ping it, but no login prompt appears, just sits there. > > Thanks for your suggestion. > Can you boot in single user and check /etc/ttys to see what terminals are recorded there? Warner
Re: ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode
On Aug 26, 2017, at 12:52 PM, Aaron Jackson wrote: > I installed to a fairly large disk so didn't skip any of the Xserver > packages, although for now I've just been trying to boot with a console > attached. So, not so sure if X is the issue. The installation of the X servers package includes a post-installation script. One of the tasks of that script is to read the current console and set up /etc/ttys with the correct X server invocation. If you installed with a serial console, that wouldn't have given you an X entry in /etc/ttys. You can find the script (*.scp) in /usr/etc/products and run it (actually I forget if it relies on internal state of setld or not -- I think it might in which case running it won't work), or just reinstall the package. Or if you feel up to it, you can extract the X server entry from the script and add it to /etc/ttys yourself. There may be a microcode load task for PMAG-J too, dunno. I think what I'd do is just reinstall the 24-bit X servers package. ok bear. -- until further notice
Re: ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode
>> >> Thanks for the suggestion - it sounds plausible. If I remember >> >> correctly, it asks for the time when you boot up, but I might not be >> >> remembering it properly so I'll give it a try soon. >> > >> > I think you're tilting windmills with that. >> > >> > PMAG-J apparently isn't related to any of the other turbochannel >> > display adapters. Do you have the right Xserver package installed to >> > drive it? AFAIK it's the "True Color Server", but I'm not sure what >> > the package name is. UDWWSTSER450 or UDWXTXSER450 perhaps. >> > >> > >> > ok >> > bear. >> >> I installed to a fairly large disk so didn't skip any of the Xserver >> packages, although for now I've just been trying to boot with a console >> attached. So, not so sure if X is the issue. >> >> I can ping it, but no login prompt appears, just sits there. >> >> Thanks for your suggestion. >> > > Can you boot in single user and check /etc/ttys to see what terminals are > recorded there? > > Warner Hi Warner, This was actually one of the first things I tried - probably should have mentioned it in the original post. It seemed fine. console was enabled, as were the first few tty. Unless the device naming has me confused. I will need to double check this tomorrow. I also commented out the last line which appears to try and start the X login prompt. Thanks for the suggestion, Aaron.
Re: ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode
>> Thanks for the suggestion - it sounds plausible. If I remember >> correctly, it asks for the time when you boot up, but I might not be >> remembering it properly so I'll give it a try soon. > > I think you're tilting windmills with that. > > PMAG-J apparently isn't related to any of the other turbochannel > display adapters. Do you have the right Xserver package installed to > drive it? AFAIK it's the "True Color Server", but I'm not sure what > the package name is. UDWWSTSER450 or UDWXTXSER450 perhaps. > > > ok > bear. I installed to a fairly large disk so didn't skip any of the Xserver packages, although for now I've just been trying to boot with a console attached. So, not so sure if X is the issue. I can ping it, but no login prompt appears, just sits there. Thanks for your suggestion. Best, Aaron.
Re: ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode
On Aug 24, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Aaron Jackson via cctech wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion - it sounds plausible. If I remember > correctly, it asks for the time when you boot up, but I might not be > remembering it properly so I'll give it a try soon. I think you're tilting windmills with that. PMAG-J apparently isn't related to any of the other turbochannel display adapters. Do you have the right Xserver package installed to drive it? AFAIK it's the "True Color Server", but I'm not sure what the package name is. UDWWSTSER450 or UDWXTXSER450 perhaps. ok bear. -- until further notice
Re: ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode
> I am clueless etc, have no idea about how Ultrix does its things under > the hood, but have you tried setting the proper date when in single > mode, then reboot into normal mode? I guess some parts of the system > may refuse to work if they find out that filesystem is "newer" than > the clock. Thanks for the suggestion - it sounds plausible. If I remember correctly, it asks for the time when you boot up, but I might not be remembering it properly so I'll give it a try soon. Aaron.
Re: ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 07:54:50PM +0100, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > Hi all, > > I picked up a DECstation 5000/200 over a year ago, which I haven't > really played with until this weekend. I burnt an Ultrix 4.5 iso, as I > have a RRD43 cdrom drive. The installation appeared to go fine, and I > was very pleased to see that Emacs is available in the unsupported > packages. > > When I try to boot, it prints out to the console > > ]] > ]] preserving editor files > ]] clearing /tmp > ]] standard daemons: update cron accounting network snmpd printer. > ]] start errlog daemon - elcsd > ]] Thu Aug 14 18:30:23 GMT 1997 > > and then it seems to just stop. I can hear some repetitive disk > activity, but nothing is happening on the console. I have a monitor > hooked up to the PMAG-F card, but it just displays a black screen. > > If I boot into single user mode "boot 5/rz1/vmunix single", things seem > to work fine, although I can't start X. I am clueless etc, have no idea about how Ultrix does its things under the hood, but have you tried setting the proper date when in single mode, then reboot into normal mode? I guess some parts of the system may refuse to work if they find out that filesystem is "newer" than the clock. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode
Hi all, I picked up a DECstation 5000/200 over a year ago, which I haven't really played with until this weekend. I burnt an Ultrix 4.5 iso, as I have a RRD43 cdrom drive. The installation appeared to go fine, and I was very pleased to see that Emacs is available in the unsupported packages. When I try to boot, it prints out to the console ]] ]] preserving editor files ]] clearing /tmp ]] standard daemons: update cron accounting network snmpd printer. ]] start errlog daemon - elcsd ]] Thu Aug 14 18:30:23 GMT 1997 and then it seems to just stop. I can hear some repetitive disk activity, but nothing is happening on the console. I have a monitor hooked up to the PMAG-F card, but it just displays a black screen. If I boot into single user mode "boot 5/rz1/vmunix single", things seem to work fine, although I can't start X. From here, I took a look in /etc/rc and /etc/rc.local, and it seems to get to the end of them both fine. There is an "exit 0" on the line after the date command is executed. Is there a script called after this which I have missed? I'm a bit new to Ultrix. Does anyone have any ideas? Is it X related? Perhaps I should try a fresh install without DECwindows, if that is an option. Thanks, Aaron.
