Re: (CF8) Compressing the Ajax libraries
Hi Michael, The YUI & Ext files contained in CF8 are already compressed and apart from GZipping, there's not much more you can do to them to make them smaller. The Spry files can be made smaller using Dojo's ShrinkSafe compressor. As Charlie mentioned, I blogged about it so check out that link. Since HoF is a consumer-facing website, I would suggest you take a serious look at jQuery and its associated plugins if filesize is a concern (www.jquery.com). A number of CF gurus have embraced it and they seem to be quite happy with the results. Rey... > On 8/9/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I was looking over the libraries for things like cfmenu and a standard >> usage of the tag loads something like 200k of javascript. Not >> something I want to add to House of Fusion. I tried to gzip the files >> and change the extension to .js but that failed. I assume it is not >> possible to pre-compress the .js files and the only way to compress >> them is to use an 'on the fly' compression program. Is this correct? >> Is there any way to compress the .js without a webserver add-on? >> >> -- >> Michael Dinowitz >> President: House of Fusion(http://www.houseoffusion.com) >> Publisher: Fusion Authority(http://www.fusionauthority.com) >> Adobe Community Expert / Advanced Certified ColdFusion Professional >> >> > > ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285936 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: (CF8) Compressing the Ajax libraries
Thanks linking to me Charlie! :) Charlie Griefer wrote: > http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/6/6/CF8-Ajax-Quick-Tip-for-Shrinking-the-Page-Size > > ? > > On 8/9/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I was looking over the libraries for things like cfmenu and a standard >> usage of the tag loads something like 200k of javascript. Not >> something I want to add to House of Fusion. I tried to gzip the files >> and change the extension to .js but that failed. I assume it is not >> possible to pre-compress the .js files and the only way to compress >> them is to use an 'on the fly' compression program. Is this correct? >> Is there any way to compress the .js without a webserver add-on? >> >> -- >> Michael Dinowitz >> President: House of Fusion(http://www.houseoffusion.com) >> Publisher: Fusion Authority(http://www.fusionauthority.com) >> Adobe Community Expert / Advanced Certified ColdFusion Professional >> >> > > ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285935 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: (CF8) Compressing the Ajax libraries
You could see if this kind of technique is able to reduce the file size: http://javascriptcompressor.com/ On 8/10/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was looking over the libraries for things like cfmenu and a standard > usage of the tag loads something like 200k of javascript. Not > something I want to add to House of Fusion. I tried to gzip the files > and change the extension to .js but that failed. I assume it is not > possible to pre-compress the .js files and the only way to compress > them is to use an 'on the fly' compression program. Is this correct? > Is there any way to compress the .js without a webserver add-on? -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285933 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: (CF8) Compressing the Ajax libraries
http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/6/6/CF8-Ajax-Quick-Tip-for-Shrinking-the-Page-Size ? On 8/9/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was looking over the libraries for things like cfmenu and a standard > usage of the tag loads something like 200k of javascript. Not > something I want to add to House of Fusion. I tried to gzip the files > and change the extension to .js but that failed. I assume it is not > possible to pre-compress the .js files and the only way to compress > them is to use an 'on the fly' compression program. Is this correct? > Is there any way to compress the .js without a webserver add-on? > > -- > Michael Dinowitz > President: House of Fusion(http://www.houseoffusion.com) > Publisher: Fusion Authority(http://www.fusionauthority.com) > Adobe Community Expert / Advanced Certified ColdFusion Professional > > ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285931 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
(CF8) Compressing the Ajax libraries
I was looking over the libraries for things like cfmenu and a standard usage of the tag loads something like 200k of javascript. Not something I want to add to House of Fusion. I tried to gzip the files and change the extension to .js but that failed. I assume it is not possible to pre-compress the .js files and the only way to compress them is to use an 'on the fly' compression program. Is this correct? Is there any way to compress the .js without a webserver add-on? -- Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion(http://www.houseoffusion.com) Publisher: Fusion Authority(http://www.fusionauthority.com) Adobe Community Expert / Advanced Certified ColdFusion Professional ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285920 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
I suggest experimenting with a few to see what best supports your needs. Folks have already given a lot of great suggestions. What I found, as I am working on a VERY AJAX intensive app right now, is that all of the libraries have strengths and weaknesses, and you may run into a "deal breaker" weakness, or a "must have" strength with a particular library that will help shape your decision. I do highly suggest playing the the various Ajax stuff in the CF8 beta - it's pretty compelling, and will greatly minimize the amount of JavaScript you need to write. If its capabilities fit your needs, it is probably the easiest path. One very interesting alternative I didn't see mentioned is the Google Web Toolkit. (http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/) It uses a very unique approach - it's basically a set of Java libraries that generates JavaScript code. You write the UI/Ajax stuff in Java, compile it, and include the resulting JavaScript in your page. The advantage of writing in Java rather than JS directly is that Java is a much more sane language than JavaScript, and there are far far better Java development tools available than there are JS ones. It's much easier to debug, unit test, etc. You don't have to be a Java guru by any means. I got very far with a fairly rudimentary understanding of Java. In addition, there is a very nice (though commercial) Eclipse plug-in, GWT Designer (http://www.instantiations.com/gwtdesigner/index.html), that lets you visually build out the UI. I ended up not using GWT only because I had a couple of very specific requirements that I couldn't do cleanly enough - namely adding widgets to certain other widgets - but the latest release candidate solves that. Just some food for thought. On 6/9/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There > most > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax > or > mxAjax? > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280775 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
On 6/11/07, Andy Matthews wrote: > FYI, while jQuery doesn't do this out of the box, there is a plugin to manage > the back > button. Sweet! Gotta have that back button handled, neh! Are you using the plugin? Does it use a hidden iframe, or another method? I like the fact that the stuff is sorta "baked in" with dojo... from the beginning it was meant to be robust, which is a different philosophy than the small but pluggable- "better" or "worse" depends on the scale of the app, somewhat. I wasn't aware of the Accessibility aspect of dojo, which I think is HUGE (it sorta peeves me that Accessibility takes a back seat in so many places, which is ironic, as I've put it in the back seat of 90% of what I've done.). Thanks, Sandra! You'd think a fan would know that! =-P Another exciting aspect is the Internationalization stuff- again, not so much a plugin (but you can exclude it) as a concept- It's important to the library as a whole, you know? I dig that. Themes are slowly making their way out the door... It's just really, really, robust. Tests for just about everything, etc.. Part of the deal, I guess, is the bit about using ORMs vs. knowing SQL. It's "a good thing" to know SQL, even tho it can be startlingly easy to slap together a site now without knowing any. It's still awful hard to do some stuff via ORM alone, tho, so... same applies to JS, in a manner. There has just been a /ton/ of thought (and debate, etc.) put into dojo, with things in mind that I think a lot of the other libraries are just now sorta getting to the point of needing/thinking about. It's always tougher when you didn't foresee something getting "so big", if you read me. Script scope separation, for instance. Does "your lib" handle script separation? (<--question directed toward potential library pickers, not Andy specifically. :). Does "your library" have ways to specify events are connected just once? Does "your library" have a robust event system? Will "your library" grow with your needs, to the point of off-line accessibility? Comet? And do it pretty cohesively? Do all your plugins play nice with each other? Do /you/ (the end user) have to verify that when you add plugin X, it doesn't mess up plugin Y? * * * With such an nice, open subject, I figured I'd throw these questions/ considerations out there, keep the good info flowing, etc.. And it's a slight battle of the libraries, which I think is good, no? =] PS- dojo's api seems clear enough to me. I don't have any problems with the source, at least. Pretty easy to see what does what, etc.. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280697 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
My suggestion for you would be jQuery. Its community is very friendly, excited to welcome new comers, and growing all the time. Also, since what you asked for was an 'Ajax library', I would suggest Rob Gonda's AjaxCFC. It can be used alone (he incorporates a javascript library called DWR), or you can use the new jQuery branch that Rob has created. With the addition of AjaxCFC to jQuery you have the option of using jQuery's in-built ajax calls or Rob's AjaxCFC which can make asynchronous calls directly to a CFC (something that jQuery's in-built ajax doesn't do well). I'd also like to add that jQuery partnered with Jack Slocum's Ext project. You can read details on that here <http://jquery.com/blog/2007/02/19/jquery-and-jack-slocums-ext>. Cheers! Chris Andy Matthews wrote: > Quite a few of the people on this list use jQuery. > > Several people use Dojo, or Scriptaculous, or Prototype. There's also > moo.fx, Dom-ext, Ext-js and more. > > I'd use jQuery though. > > :) > > -Original Message- > From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: AJAX Libraries > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There most > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax or > mxAjax? > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280657 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: AJAX Libraries
FYI, while jQuery doesn't do this out of the box, there is a plugin to manage the back button. -Original Message- From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries Dojo kicks freaking arse. It roxerz on so many levels, I can't contemplate any other library. If you really want to do some heavy AJAX, I'd go Dojo. If you're looking for a bit of flash, heck, they're all good. 'prolly use what James sugged, since it ties with CF. I wonder tho... have any libraries 'sides dojo tackled the back button, and "normal" pages that just get "AJAX"ed, like Dojo does? Two Powerful Features which I can't live without. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280637 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: AJAX Libraries
I'm shocked that list doesn't contain jQuery. -Original Message- From: [Sunshine Tech Solutions] Ravi Gehlot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries Andrew, Check this out: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/ajaxlibraries.htm Ravi. Andrew Scott wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has >> an integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? >> There most be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had >> success with cfajax or mxAjax? >> >> >> >> Brook >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280634 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: AJAX Libraries
Quite a few of the people on this list use jQuery. Several people use Dojo, or Scriptaculous, or Prototype. There's also moo.fx, Dom-ext, Ext-js and more. I'd use jQuery though. :) -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: AJAX Libraries Hello, Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There most be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax or mxAjax? Brook ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280632 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
YUI also has a good Custom Event framework and one very important parameter built into all of their event handling functions that you will discover is essential. But just to add, I thought their widgets were poor. Ext has the nicest ones but hardest to work with. Dojo's API looks sloppy. MooTools has beautiful examples and simple code. And I don't know much about Prototype except that I didn't choose it. This is what I was doing before I decided to move to Flex. -Ariel - Original Message From: blists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:34:37 PM Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries Thanks everyone for the great suggestions, I will start to check them out. Is the yahoo stuff what yahoo used to make yahoo mail, because I have found the new yahoo mail to be very solid and a very cool RIA app. So if it uses the same lib, then that might be interesting to me. I'm gonna check them all out :) Brook -Original Message- From: Ariel Jakobovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 10, 2007 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries Just like to throw in that unlike the other toolkits, jQuery is a unique and expressive language to use for adding your own javascript functionality to webpages with very little coding. It teaches you the DOM structure very well and will hone your CSS/XPath skills. Discovering it was like writing my first Lisp program, except that I ended up doing lots of things with my javascript capabilities. I think jQuery's strength lies in its ability to target and modify specific DOM elements. Conversely, I think its weakness is that you give up on a lot of its power when using other people's plugins. I believe there are lots of plugins because it is easy for people to create their own functionality, not so much because the community at large is asking for them. Dojo has pre-built widgets you are encouraged to use, Ext even more, and a developer's strength is based in his/her ability to use the existing widgets. As a jQuery programmer, you want to be good at adding the functionalities yourself on the fly as you decide to add them. - Original Message From: Michael E. Carluen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:25:43 PM Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries Brook, One thing that I like about jQuery is the growing number of community developed plugins and extensions. It seems like one is added everyday. http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins Also it also good to know that the list of recognizable brands have deployed sites on it. http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery Finally, it is also good to find reputable CF gurus (or even novice to intermediate to advance CFers) being quite visible in its already active community. As in, don't hesitate to ask anything CF-related. http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/2/2/Holy-Cow-Anothe-CF-BigWig-Using-t he-jQuery-Ajax-Library Hth you... and good luck on your search and on your decision. Again it'll all just boil down to your personal preference of features you are looking for, as others have indicated. The 3 points I stated above was personally important to me at the time I was deciding. > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries > > I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a > few > before cfajax and mxAjax. > > Even jQuery would be on my list to look at. > > Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into > Yahoo's ajax library yui. > > For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com > > > > > On 6/10/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There > > most > > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with > cfajax > > or > > mxAjax? > > > > > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280623 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
JQuery is not unique in this regard. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Ariel Jakobovits To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Jun 10 23:08:57 2007 Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries Just like to throw in that unlike the other toolkits, jQuery is a unique and expressive language to use for adding your own javascript functionality to webpages with very little coding. It teaches you the DOM structure very well and will hone your CSS/XPath skills. Discovering it was like writing my first Lisp program, except that I ended up doing lots of things with my javascript capabilities. I think jQuery's strength lies in its ability to target and modify specific DOM elements. Conversely, I think its weakness is that you give up on a lot of its power when using other people's plugins. I believe there are lots of plugins because it is easy for people to create their own functionality, not so much because the community at large is asking for them. Dojo has pre-built widgets you are encouraged to use, Ext even more, and a developer's strength is based in his/her ability to use the existing widgets. As a jQuery programmer, you want to be good at adding the functionalities yourself on the fly as you decide to add them. - Original Message From: Michael E. Carluen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:25:43 PM Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries Brook, One thing that I like about jQuery is the growing number of community developed plugins and extensions. It seems like one is added everyday. http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins Also it also good to know that the list of recognizable brands have deployed sites on it. http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery Finally, it is also good to find reputable CF gurus (or even novice to intermediate to advance CFers) being quite visible in its already active community. As in, don't hesitate to ask anything CF-related. http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/2/2/Holy-Cow-Anothe-CF-BigWig-Using-t he-jQuery-Ajax-Library Hth you... and good luck on your search and on your decision. Again it'll all just boil down to your personal preference of features you are looking for, as others have indicated. The 3 points I stated above was personally important to me at the time I was deciding. > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries > > I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a > few > before cfajax and mxAjax. > > Even jQuery would be on my list to look at. > > Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into > Yahoo's ajax library yui. > > For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com > > > > > On 6/10/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There > > most > > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with > cfajax > > or > > mxAjax? > > > > > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280611 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
I would say so, but I don't use yahoo mail so it would be just a guess on my part. But as also mentioned the new Ajax UI features of Coldfusion 8 is all based on YUI. On 6/11/07, blists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the great suggestions, I will start to check them out. > Is the yahoo stuff what yahoo used to make yahoo mail, because I have > found > the new yahoo mail to be very solid and a very cool RIA app. So if it uses > the same lib, then that might be interesting to me. > > I'm gonna check them all out :) > > Brook > > > -Original Message- > From: Ariel Jakobovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: June 10, 2007 3:09 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries > > Just like to throw in that unlike the other toolkits, jQuery is a unique > and > expressive language to use for adding your own javascript functionality to > webpages with very little coding. It teaches you the DOM structure very > well > and will hone your CSS/XPath skills. Discovering it was like writing my > first Lisp program, except that I ended up doing lots of things with my > javascript capabilities. > > I think jQuery's strength lies in its ability to target and modify > specific > DOM elements. Conversely, I think its weakness is that you give up on a > lot > of its power when using other people's plugins. I believe there are lots > of > plugins because it is easy for people to create their own functionality, > not > so much because the community at large is asking for them. Dojo has > pre-built widgets you are encouraged to use, Ext even more, and a > developer's strength is based in his/her ability to use the existing > widgets. As a jQuery programmer, you want to be good at adding the > functionalities yourself on the fly as you decide to add them. > > - Original Message > From: Michael E. Carluen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:25:43 PM > Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries > > Brook, > > One thing that I like about jQuery is the growing number of community > developed plugins and extensions. It seems like one is added everyday. > http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins > > Also it also good to know that the list of recognizable brands have > deployed > sites on it. > http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery > > Finally, it is also good to find reputable CF gurus (or even novice to > intermediate to advance CFers) being quite visible in its already active > community. As in, don't hesitate to ask anything CF-related. > > http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/2/2/Holy-Cow-Anothe-CF-BigWig-Using-t > he-jQuery-Ajax-Library > > > Hth you... and good luck on your search and on your decision. Again it'll > all just boil down to your personal preference of features you are looking > for, as others have indicated. The 3 points I stated above was personally > important to me at the time I was deciding. > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries > > > > I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a > > few > > before cfajax and mxAjax. > > > > Even jQuery would be on my list to look at. > > > > Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into > > Yahoo's ajax library yui. > > > > For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com > > > > > > > > > > On 6/10/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has > an > > > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? > There > > > most > > > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with > > cfajax > > > or > > > mxAjax? > > > > > > > > > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280606 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Thanks everyone for the great suggestions, I will start to check them out. Is the yahoo stuff what yahoo used to make yahoo mail, because I have found the new yahoo mail to be very solid and a very cool RIA app. So if it uses the same lib, then that might be interesting to me. I'm gonna check them all out :) Brook -Original Message- From: Ariel Jakobovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 10, 2007 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries Just like to throw in that unlike the other toolkits, jQuery is a unique and expressive language to use for adding your own javascript functionality to webpages with very little coding. It teaches you the DOM structure very well and will hone your CSS/XPath skills. Discovering it was like writing my first Lisp program, except that I ended up doing lots of things with my javascript capabilities. I think jQuery's strength lies in its ability to target and modify specific DOM elements. Conversely, I think its weakness is that you give up on a lot of its power when using other people's plugins. I believe there are lots of plugins because it is easy for people to create their own functionality, not so much because the community at large is asking for them. Dojo has pre-built widgets you are encouraged to use, Ext even more, and a developer's strength is based in his/her ability to use the existing widgets. As a jQuery programmer, you want to be good at adding the functionalities yourself on the fly as you decide to add them. - Original Message From: Michael E. Carluen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:25:43 PM Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries Brook, One thing that I like about jQuery is the growing number of community developed plugins and extensions. It seems like one is added everyday. http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins Also it also good to know that the list of recognizable brands have deployed sites on it. http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery Finally, it is also good to find reputable CF gurus (or even novice to intermediate to advance CFers) being quite visible in its already active community. As in, don't hesitate to ask anything CF-related. http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/2/2/Holy-Cow-Anothe-CF-BigWig-Using-t he-jQuery-Ajax-Library Hth you... and good luck on your search and on your decision. Again it'll all just boil down to your personal preference of features you are looking for, as others have indicated. The 3 points I stated above was personally important to me at the time I was deciding. > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries > > I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a > few > before cfajax and mxAjax. > > Even jQuery would be on my list to look at. > > Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into > Yahoo's ajax library yui. > > For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com > > > > > On 6/10/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There > > most > > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with > cfajax > > or > > mxAjax? > > > > > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280601 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Just like to throw in that unlike the other toolkits, jQuery is a unique and expressive language to use for adding your own javascript functionality to webpages with very little coding. It teaches you the DOM structure very well and will hone your CSS/XPath skills. Discovering it was like writing my first Lisp program, except that I ended up doing lots of things with my javascript capabilities. I think jQuery's strength lies in its ability to target and modify specific DOM elements. Conversely, I think its weakness is that you give up on a lot of its power when using other people's plugins. I believe there are lots of plugins because it is easy for people to create their own functionality, not so much because the community at large is asking for them. Dojo has pre-built widgets you are encouraged to use, Ext even more, and a developer's strength is based in his/her ability to use the existing widgets. As a jQuery programmer, you want to be good at adding the functionalities yourself on the fly as you decide to add them. - Original Message From: Michael E. Carluen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:25:43 PM Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries Brook, One thing that I like about jQuery is the growing number of community developed plugins and extensions. It seems like one is added everyday. http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins Also it also good to know that the list of recognizable brands have deployed sites on it. http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery Finally, it is also good to find reputable CF gurus (or even novice to intermediate to advance CFers) being quite visible in its already active community. As in, don't hesitate to ask anything CF-related. http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/2/2/Holy-Cow-Anothe-CF-BigWig-Using-t he-jQuery-Ajax-Library Hth you... and good luck on your search and on your decision. Again it'll all just boil down to your personal preference of features you are looking for, as others have indicated. The 3 points I stated above was personally important to me at the time I was deciding. > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries > > I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a > few > before cfajax and mxAjax. > > Even jQuery would be on my list to look at. > > Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into > Yahoo's ajax library yui. > > For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com > > > > > On 6/10/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There > > most > > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with > cfajax > > or > > mxAjax? > > > > > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280593 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Just and FYI, DoJo has MAJOR accessibility features built in and is designed to work with the ARIA (Accessibile Rich Internet Applications) standard http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/aria http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/ARIA:_Accessible_Rich_Internet_Applications Firefox 2 is mostly ARIA compliant. Firefox 3 will be entirely ARIA compliant. Jaws 7 is partially ARIA compliant. Sandra Clark = http://www.shayna.com Training and Consulting in CSS and Accessibility Team Fusebox -Original Message- From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries On 6/10/07 Neil (RX) wrote: > What's wrong with your keyboard? Seems to have poste in "nonsense street > mode" (-: Whoops! It's the latest language for FCKEditor... musta left it on... amazing how it integrates with gmail, neh? Translated, the gist is that dojo has some built-in stuff for handling a couple of the more troublesome aspects of "AJAX"; the back button, bookmarks, and, I know they can all do this, but: you can design so that the "super-dooper web 2.0" app works with javascript turned off too. Heck, it's all just JS, but I've had good cross-browser results with dojo, and the tag-based option makes it freakishly easy for even non js, non cf, all-I-know-is-html types to pick up and whip out great stuff with. Obviously a fan-boi, but I've wanked with quite a bit of them and I'm just enamored with dojo, it's AOP, and the breadth of things covered. All optionally included, lazy loaded, etc., etc., etc.. just great stuff. (There is some crazy development happening, too. Amazing things!) Freakishly cool, especially as you start doing AOP, RIA, etc.. WOO-Dr.Who! Not un-biased, but not un-experienced either, so- eh- there it is. D and d, sitting in a tree, K I S S i n g! -ps if you're curious, get dojo, and take a look in the tests/ directory. Tons of great stuff. I'm sad most the old demos are missing from the new dojo site... it's silly... not for me, but for noobs, fer sure... ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280591 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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On 6/10/07 Neil (RX) wrote: > What's wrong with your keyboard? Seems to have poste in "nonsense street > mode" (-: Whoops! It's the latest language for FCKEditor... musta left it on... amazing how it integrates with gmail, neh? Translated, the gist is that dojo has some built-in stuff for handling a couple of the more troublesome aspects of "AJAX"; the back button, bookmarks, and, I know they can all do this, but: you can design so that the "super-dooper web 2.0" app works with javascript turned off too. Heck, it's all just JS, but I've had good cross-browser results with dojo, and the tag-based option makes it freakishly easy for even non js, non cf, all-I-know-is-html types to pick up and whip out great stuff with. Obviously a fan-boi, but I've wanked with quite a bit of them and I'm just enamored with dojo, it's AOP, and the breadth of things covered. All optionally included, lazy loaded, etc., etc., etc.. just great stuff. (There is some crazy development happening, too. Amazing things!) Freakishly cool, especially as you start doing AOP, RIA, etc.. WOO-Dr.Who! Not un-biased, but not un-experienced either, so- eh- there it is. D and d, sitting in a tree, K I S S i n g! -ps if you're curious, get dojo, and take a look in the tests/ directory. Tons of great stuff. I'm sad most the old demos are missing from the new dojo site... it's silly... not for me, but for noobs, fer sure... ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Brook, One thing that I like about jQuery is the growing number of community developed plugins and extensions. It seems like one is added everyday. http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins Also it also good to know that the list of recognizable brands have deployed sites on it. http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery Finally, it is also good to find reputable CF gurus (or even novice to intermediate to advance CFers) being quite visible in its already active community. As in, don't hesitate to ask anything CF-related. http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/2/2/Holy-Cow-Anothe-CF-BigWig-Using-t he-jQuery-Ajax-Library Hth you... and good luck on your search and on your decision. Again it'll all just boil down to your personal preference of features you are looking for, as others have indicated. The 3 points I stated above was personally important to me at the time I was deciding. > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries > > I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a > few > before cfajax and mxAjax. > > Even jQuery would be on my list to look at. > > Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into > Yahoo's ajax library yui. > > For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com > > > > > On 6/10/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There > > most > > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with > cfajax > > or > > mxAjax? > > > > > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280589 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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James, No flames here, and the point is that each have their own quirks and greatness. So to Brook +1 for it is really up to what you need, and or looking to achieve. On 6/10/07, James Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Having worked with a few, I'm pretty certain that there is no "best" > framework (though I'm sure some fanboys will flame me for this). > > If you simply want a way to have JavaScript <-> CF conversations easily > and without a lot of coding, I think any of them will work. > > My personal lightweight favorite is mootools (http://demos.mootoools.net) > because it is very small and super easy to use/learn, but YUI, > Prototype/Scriptaculous and Dojo are much more feature complete and are > excellent frameworks as well. > > Good luck > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280583 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Having worked with a few, I'm pretty certain that there is no "best" framework (though I'm sure some fanboys will flame me for this). If you simply want a way to have JavaScript <-> CF conversations easily and without a lot of coding, I think any of them will work. My personal lightweight favorite is mootools (http://demos.mootoools.net) because it is very small and super easy to use/learn, but YUI, Prototype/Scriptaculous and Dojo are much more feature complete and are excellent frameworks as well. Good luck ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280580 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Indeed, There are lots out their and trying to say one is better and it is hard to see through the crap as everyone has their own views and preferences hence why I will not preach, only suggest/advocate. Personally I like and use Script.Aculo.us / Prototype but it can be bloat for simple needs. I also can't talk highly enough of Backbase, a cracking offering but unfortunately costs a lot and geared toward people building practically 100% Ajax RIA. All of the frameworks aside, think of your potential etc. If you do not know or want to know any JS beyond what the the frameworks offer then go with one which is easy to get up to speed (JSMX is no doubt the simplest IMO). If you want or envisage building applications and having to do more complex JS interactions then you know who you are and you could effectively use any - unless you want ColdFusion interop already in place as then your choice is further refined. HTH N "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [Sunshine Tech Solutions] Ravi Gehlot To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Jun 10 06:48:43 2007 Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries Andrew, Check this out: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/ajaxlibraries.htm Ravi. Andrew Scott wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an >> integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There >> most >> be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax >> or >> mxAjax? >> >> >> >> Brook >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280576 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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What's wrong with your keyboard? Seems to have poste in "nonsense street mode" :-) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Dinner To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Jun 10 03:31:58 2007 Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries Dojo kicks freaking arse. It roxerz on so many levels, I can't contemplate any other library. If you really want to do some heavy AJAX, I'd go Dojo. If you're looking for a bit of flash, heck, they're all good. 'prolly use what James sugged, since it ties with CF. I wonder tho... have any libraries 'sides dojo tackled the back button, and "normal" pages that just get "AJAX"ed, like Dojo does? Two Powerful Features which I can't live without. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280575 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
ops...this was for Brook...my bad! Andrew Scott wrote: > why me? I do not care, I use dojo. > > On 6/10/07, [Sunshine Tech Solutions] Ravi Gehlot < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Andrew, >> >>Check this out: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/ajaxlibraries.htm >> >> Ravi. >> >> Andrew Scott wrote: >> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an >>>> integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There >>>> most >>>> be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with >>>> >> cfajax >> >>>> or >>>> mxAjax? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Brook >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280574 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
why me? I do not care, I use dojo. On 6/10/07, [Sunshine Tech Solutions] Ravi Gehlot < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrew, > >Check this out: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/ajaxlibraries.htm > > Ravi. > > Andrew Scott wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> > >> > >> Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > >> integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There > >> most > >> be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with > cfajax > >> or > >> mxAjax? > >> > >> > >> > >> Brook > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280573 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
Andrew, Check this out: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/ajaxlibraries.htm Ravi. Andrew Scott wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an >> integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There >> most >> be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax >> or >> mxAjax? >> >> >> >> Brook >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280572 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
Has anyone written the server-side parts to interface with YUI for CF 7? On 6/10/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CF8 is more based an Yahoo's YUI, so that would be more the choice rather > than mxAjax.. > > > > On 6/10/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dojo kicks freaking arse. It roxerz on so many levels, I can't > > contemplate any > > other library. > > > > If you really want to do some heavy AJAX, I'd go Dojo. > > > > If you're looking for a bit of flash, heck, they're all good. 'prolly > > use what James > > sugged, since it ties with CF. > > > > I wonder tho... have any libraries 'sides dojo tackled the back button, > > and > > "normal" pages that just get "AJAX"ed, like Dojo does? > > > > Two Powerful Features which I can't live without. -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280562 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
CF8 is more based an Yahoo's YUI, so that would be more the choice rather than mxAjax.. On 6/10/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dojo kicks freaking arse. It roxerz on so many levels, I can't > contemplate any > other library. > > If you really want to do some heavy AJAX, I'd go Dojo. > > If you're looking for a bit of flash, heck, they're all good. 'prolly > use what James > sugged, since it ties with CF. > > I wonder tho... have any libraries 'sides dojo tackled the back button, > and > "normal" pages that just get "AJAX"ed, like Dojo does? > > Two Powerful Features which I can't live without. > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280561 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
Dojo kicks freaking arse. It roxerz on so many levels, I can't contemplate any other library. If you really want to do some heavy AJAX, I'd go Dojo. If you're looking for a bit of flash, heck, they're all good. 'prolly use what James sugged, since it ties with CF. I wonder tho... have any libraries 'sides dojo tackled the back button, and "normal" pages that just get "AJAX"ed, like Dojo does? Two Powerful Features which I can't live without. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280560 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
IF you deploy mxAjax you can use the same AJAX controls as those deployed into CF 8, the ExtJS library, because mxAjax is built on Prototype and Scriptaculous and ExtJS has an interface for this combo: http://extjs.com/ CFAjax has been replaced by mxAjax, so I'd leave that one. On 6/10/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There most > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax or > mxAjax? -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280558 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: AJAX Libraries
I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a few before cfajax and mxAjax. Even jQuery would be on my list to look at. Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into Yahoo's ajax library yui. For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com On 6/10/07, Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an > integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There > most > be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax > or > mxAjax? > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280556 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
AJAX Libraries
Hello, Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an integrated AJAX 'gateway', but is that really worth waiting for? There most be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax or mxAjax? Brook ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280554 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
