Re: Flash Form unclickable
Dave, Thanks, but I'm pretty sure this isn't the problem at all. The problem occurs when the flash form is already compiled. So, there's no possibility that this is the error. Thanks anyway, Fabio Terracini dave wrote: >right but that could be getting changed, maybe even adding variables.isEdit = true> might help > but without seeing what the form in action its hard to guess, is it viewable > by me? > >~Dave the disruptor~ > > >From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:08 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable > >Dave, > >The problem is the that sometimes the flash form (that do what pretends >to do) sometimes became "unclickable". > >The cfif is because the variable is evaluated as a boolean. It always >exists, but it's value can be true or false. > >-- > >Fabio Terracini > >dave wrote: > > > >>ok, but if you are having that problem them I wouldn't say the form is >>working and if the variable will always be there then why the cfif? >> >>~Dave the disruptor~ >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206700 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
right but that could be getting changed, maybe even adding might help but without seeing what the form in action its hard to guess, is it viewable by me? ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable Dave, The problem is the that sometimes the flash form (that do what pretends to do) sometimes became "unclickable". The cfif is because the variable is evaluated as a boolean. It always exists, but it's value can be true or false. -- Fabio Terracini dave wrote: >ok, but if you are having that problem them I wouldn't say the form is working >and if the variable will always be there then why the cfif? > >~Dave the disruptor~ > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206699 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
Dave, The problem is the that sometimes the flash form (that do what pretends to do) sometimes became "unclickable". The cfif is because the variable is evaluated as a boolean. It always exists, but it's value can be true or false. -- Fabio Terracini dave wrote: >ok, but if you are having that problem them I wouldn't say the form is working >and if the variable will always be there then why the cfif? > >~Dave the disruptor~ > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206698 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
ok, but if you are having that problem them I wouldn't say the form is working and if the variable will always be there then why the cfif? ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable Dave, the form is working properly. The only problem is the one I described it. The code I sent is only a small part, and that variable will always exists. Thanks anyway. -- Fabio Terracini dave wrote: >I think you have several problems in there. For 1 you have end tags with no >start tags. > The variable should be called differently and if the variable doesn't exist > it throws an error. > > Tell me what the for is supposed to do and I will see if we cant rewrite it. > >~Dave the disruptor~ > > >From: Fabio Terracini >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:30 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Flash Form unclickable > >Hello, > >Had anyone faced a flash forms problem that sometimes you can "use it"? > >I means, some controls, often the bottom ones (some times one of them, >sometimes two, three, etc), became "unclickable"? > >We're running some test with different plug-in versions and browsers, >but this is really hard to reproduce. We reproduced iw a few times, but >not enough to understadn what's going on. And our client is facing this >problem ALL the time. > >Sometime chaning some of the flash form code (forcing it to recompile) >solves the problem. But it the user access that form again he will face >the problem. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks, > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206694 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
Dave, the form is working properly. The only problem is the one I described it. The code I sent is only a small part, and that variable will always exists. Thanks anyway. -- Fabio Terracini dave wrote: >I think you have several problems in there. For 1 you have end tags with no >start tags. > The variable should be called differently and if the variable doesn't exist > it throws an error. > > Tell me what the for is supposed to do and I will see if we cant rewrite it. > >~Dave the disruptor~ > > >From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:30 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Flash Form unclickable > >Hello, > >Had anyone faced a flash forms problem that sometimes you can "use it"? > >I means, some controls, often the bottom ones (some times one of them, >sometimes two, three, etc), became "unclickable"? > >We're running some test with different plug-in versions and browsers, >but this is really hard to reproduce. We reproduced iw a few times, but >not enough to understadn what's going on. And our client is facing this >problem ALL the time. > >Sometime chaning some of the flash form code (forcing it to recompile) >solves the problem. But it the user access that form again he will face >the problem. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks, > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206690 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
this should work for you. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable Yes, diferent minor versions of Flash 7, like 7.0.14, 7.0.19, and so on. And debug don't help/show anything. The error isn't at the flash form compile. No log errors messages at all. When the problem occurs the flash form is already compiled. Thanks! Fabio Terracini dave wrote: >different plugin versions? doesn't it only compile to flash 7? > you may want to turn the cfform debugging on and take a look > >~Dave the disruptor~ > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206687 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
re: Flash Form unclickable
I think you have several problems in there. For 1 you have end tags with no start tags. The variable should be called differently and if the variable doesn't exist it throws an error. Tell me what the for is supposed to do and I will see if we cant rewrite it. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash Form unclickable Hello, Had anyone faced a flash forms problem that sometimes you can "use it"? I means, some controls, often the bottom ones (some times one of them, sometimes two, three, etc), became "unclickable"? We're running some test with different plug-in versions and browsers, but this is really hard to reproduce. We reproduced iw a few times, but not enough to understadn what's going on. And our client is facing this problem ALL the time. Sometime chaning some of the flash form code (forcing it to recompile) solves the problem. But it the user access that form again he will face the problem. Any suggestions? Thanks, -- Fabio Terracini ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206686 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
can you paste the entire form code an i will take a look. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable Yes, diferent minor versions of Flash 7, like 7.0.14, 7.0.19, and so on. And debug don't help/show anything. The error isn't at the flash form compile. No log errors messages at all. When the problem occurs the flash form is already compiled. Thanks! Fabio Terracini dave wrote: >different plugin versions? doesn't it only compile to flash 7? > you may want to turn the cfform debugging on and take a look > >~Dave the disruptor~ > > > > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206680 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
Yes, diferent minor versions of Flash 7, like 7.0.14, 7.0.19, and so on. And debug don't help/show anything. The error isn't at the flash form compile. No log errors messages at all. When the problem occurs the flash form is already compiled. Thanks! Fabio Terracini dave wrote: >different plugin versions? doesn't it only compile to flash 7? > you may want to turn the cfform debugging on and take a look > >~Dave the disruptor~ > > > > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206679 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
different plugin versions? doesn't it only compile to flash 7? you may want to turn the cfform debugging on and take a look ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable - Actually, it seems only one SWF, that finish with the following code: type="horizontal"> name="btn_delete" value="Deletar" tooltip="Você remove do sistema este usuário." style="textRollOverColor: ##FF;"> value="Salvar" tabindex="19" tooltip="Você salva no sistema os dados desse usuário."> There is an additional useless cfformgroup, the vertical one (marked up). I think the programmer who developed the form didn't saw it, so I removed it right now. We'll make more test with this one. Unfortunely our developer already left client's office. - In all HTMLs. Have it nothing else or the rest of application. - We're unable to reproduce it in our envoirment, and in the client office, where we can easily reproduce this problem (one of our guys stayed there all day), they have only Internet Explorer version 6 SP2 in both Windows 2000 and XP. - All machines. We tested in various users workstations (all with IE). Also, as you said, the biggest problem of this problem, is that we can't easily reproduce this error. Only occurs in client's office (which is in another city!) Closing the browser and opening the page again also do not solve the problem. Thanks, Fabio Terracini John Dowdell wrote: >One good tack with an unusual problem is the "some or all?" series of >tests... here are some ways to narrow in on the true cause: > >-- some or all SWFs? try some known-to-be-good example sites in the >balking browser (helps detect things like a flawed SWF, etc) > >-- some or all HTMLs? try the same SWF in the simplest HTML in those >browsers (helps detect things like DIV problems, etc) > >-- some or all browsers? see if the problem occurs particularly in >certain browser brands/platforms/versions, and never in others (helps >detect things like LiveConnect reliance or caching, etc) > >-- some or all machines? see if a suspect browser acts the same on >another machine > >The symptom isn't really clear to me -- I know the general area of where >a visitor might experience problems, but I wouldn't be able to reliably >tell someone else how they can make th eproblem happen too. > >jd > > > > > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206678 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
- Actually, it seems only one SWF, that finish with the following code: There is an additional useless cfformgroup, the vertical one (marked up). I think the programmer who developed the form didn't saw it, so I removed it right now. We'll make more test with this one. Unfortunely our developer already left client's office. - In all HTMLs. Have it nothing else or the rest of application. - We're unable to reproduce it in our envoirment, and in the client office, where we can easily reproduce this problem (one of our guys stayed there all day), they have only Internet Explorer version 6 SP2 in both Windows 2000 and XP. - All machines. We tested in various users workstations (all with IE). Also, as you said, the biggest problem of this problem, is that we can't easily reproduce this error. Only occurs in client's office (which is in another city!) Closing the browser and opening the page again also do not solve the problem. Thanks, Fabio Terracini John Dowdell wrote: >One good tack with an unusual problem is the "some or all?" series of >tests... here are some ways to narrow in on the true cause: > >-- some or all SWFs? try some known-to-be-good example sites in the >balking browser (helps detect things like a flawed SWF, etc) > >-- some or all HTMLs? try the same SWF in the simplest HTML in those >browsers (helps detect things like DIV problems, etc) > >-- some or all browsers? see if the problem occurs particularly in >certain browser brands/platforms/versions, and never in others (helps >detect things like LiveConnect reliance or caching, etc) > >-- some or all machines? see if a suspect browser acts the same on >another machine > >The symptom isn't really clear to me -- I know the general area of where >a visitor might experience problems, but I wouldn't be able to reliably >tell someone else how they can make th eproblem happen too. > >jd > > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206675 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash Form unclickable
Fabio Terracini wrote: > Had anyone faced a flash forms problem that sometimes you can "use it"? > I means, some controls, often the bottom ones (some times one of them, > sometimes two, three, etc), became "unclickable"? > ... Any suggestions? One good tack with an unusual problem is the "some or all?" series of tests... here are some ways to narrow in on the true cause: -- some or all SWFs? try some known-to-be-good example sites in the balking browser (helps detect things like a flawed SWF, etc) -- some or all HTMLs? try the same SWF in the simplest HTML in those browsers (helps detect things like DIV problems, etc) -- some or all browsers? see if the problem occurs particularly in certain browser brands/platforms/versions, and never in others (helps detect things like LiveConnect reliance or caching, etc) -- some or all machines? see if a suspect browser acts the same on another machine The symptom isn't really clear to me -- I know the general area of where a visitor might experience problems, but I wouldn't be able to reliably tell someone else how they can make th eproblem happen too. jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206674 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Flash Form unclickable
Hello, Had anyone faced a flash forms problem that sometimes you can "use it"? I means, some controls, often the bottom ones (some times one of them, sometimes two, three, etc), became "unclickable"? We're running some test with different plug-in versions and browsers, but this is really hard to reproduce. We reproduced iw a few times, but not enough to understadn what's going on. And our client is facing this problem ALL the time. Sometime chaning some of the flash form code (forcing it to recompile) solves the problem. But it the user access that form again he will face the problem. Any suggestions? Thanks, -- Fabio Terracini ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206665 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
