RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Incidentally I discovered this beast of an issue when setting up CFMX 7 on Win2k3 on VMWare 5 some time ago. Naturally installs in VMWare are much slower, so this was quite a pain to troubleshoot and figure out exactly why I couldn't just install it. I never did determine a viable work around aside from installing CFMX 7 before installing SP 1, has anyone else? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 2:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems I don't really considering uninstalling an OS service pack to install software much of a work around... I agree with you on that. However, it looks like there are other workarounds that are less drastic. From the log entries that get generated, it looks like a permissions problem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217574 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
VMWare 5? You mean workstation? -Adam On 9/7/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incidentally I discovered this beast of an issue when setting up CFMX 7 on Win2k3 on VMWare 5 some time ago. Naturally installs in VMWare are much slower, so this was quite a pain to troubleshoot and figure out exactly why I couldn't just install it. I never did determine a viable work around aside from installing CFMX 7 before installing SP 1, has anyone else? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 2:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems I don't really considering uninstalling an OS service pack to install software much of a work around... I agree with you on that. However, it looks like there are other workarounds that are less drastic. From the log entries that get generated, it looks like a permissions problem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217577 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Yeps -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 7:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems VMWare 5? You mean workstation? -Adam On 9/7/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incidentally I discovered this beast of an issue when setting up CFMX 7 on Win2k3 on VMWare 5 some time ago. Naturally installs in VMWare are much slower, so this was quite a pain to troubleshoot and figure out exactly why I couldn't just install it. I never did determine a viable work around aside from installing CFMX 7 before installing SP 1, has anyone else? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 2:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems I don't really considering uninstalling an OS service pack to install software much of a work around... I agree with you on that. However, it looks like there are other workarounds that are less drastic. From the log entries that get generated, it looks like a permissions problem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217578 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
I had a problem with MSDE setup and CF7 as well. This turned out to be the solution for me, if it's any help. http://www.robisen.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=BE1AB594-55DC-F2B1-F392552E0A41542A The specific error I was getting when attempting to verify datasources in CF was: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing socket. Connection refused: connect Frustrating, but at least it's set up now... now I'm dealing with a totally different problem, trying to set up an MSDE server on that machine and not having any luck... I was able to get it installed once but then couldn't connect to it with anything (MS SQL Enterprise Manager, CF, ODBC) except a 3rd party tool called MSDE Manager (from WhiteBear I think it was)... Good to know the thing was working, but completely unhelpful if I can't connect to it with CF... So I uninstalled it to try again and now I can't get it reinstalled... sigh... just another day in freaking nothing works as advertised land... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217586 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
I had a problem with MSDE setup and CF7 as well. This turned out to be the solution for me, if it's any help. http://www.robisen.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=BE1AB594 -55DC-F2B1-F392552E0A41542A The specific error I was getting when attempting to verify datasources in CF was: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing socket. Connection refused: connect Thanks for the info, although apparently it doesn't apply to the latest build of MSDE ... I'm still unable to reinstall an unnamed instance of MSDE on that server, though I was able to install a named instance for which the extra tool said it wasn't needed, so... still unable to connect to the named instance as with the unnamed instance... s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217592 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Thanks for the info, although apparently it doesn't apply to the latest build of MSDE ... I'm still unable to reinstall an unnamed instance of MSDE on that server, though I was able to install a named instance for which the extra tool said it wasn't needed, so... still unable to connect to the named instance as with the unnamed instance... Each instance, named or unnamed, will listen on a separate port, assuming that they and you are using the TCP/IP listener. Run svrnetcn.exe within the \Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Binn\ directory to configure listeners. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217599 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 7:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems Thanks Mike, that fixed it. :) I'd seen the other technote but it didn't look to me from the description of it not being able to write some files that my problem was being described, so I hadn't bothered to check the workaround at the bottom. When you suggested it I went ahead and tried it anyway, but it didn't help. Uninstalling SP1 did work -- oddly, I couldn't get the CF Admin to load in a browser until I'd reinstalled SP1. Frustrating, but at least it's set up now... now I'm dealing with a totally different problem, trying to set up an MSDE server on that machine and not having any luck... I was able to get it installed once but then couldn't connect to it with anything (MS SQL Enterprise Manager, CF, ODBC) except a 3rd party tool called MSDE Manager (from WhiteBear I think it was)... Good to know the thing was working, but completely unhelpful if I can't connect to it with CF... So I uninstalled it to try again and now I can't get it reinstalled... sigh... just another day in freaking nothing works as advertised land... do you have SP1 installed already? If so, uninstall CF and uninstall SP1 and run the installer again. Then reapply SP1. There's a known installer error w/ SP1 on 2k3 later, Mike S. Isaac Dealey wrote: Why is it that the JNDI listen port is ALWAYS the problem that prevents CF from installing? ... I've got a new Win2003 server I'm trying to install my CF server on and I can't get the webserver connector to find the listen port... I've checked to make sure there isn't a firewall, proxy or anti-virus affecting it, and there isn't... I've manually configured the JNDI listen port and executed the connector from the command line and still nothing. So in lieu of that, I've tried to manually connect it by manually adding the .cfm and .cfc mappings in IIS to (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll). I'm able to get an index.htm file in web root via a browser, but trying to get a .cfm file in the same directory produces a 404 error... I'm at my wit's end. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217420 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? no, you're not - hopefully they'll find a fix for that before they release their next updater s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217425 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 12:37, Calvin Ward wrote: Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? No, you're not. It's one of the things that makes people say maybe MM isn't very keen on CF. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217426 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
I dont agree really. Yeah, its an inconvenience, but its not like you can just throw out a new installer on a whim. If they did we would have a lot more problems than we do. They have an updater thats either in beta or getting ready to be in beta, im sure they are rolling out the fix in it. You can be guarenteed this though, youre going to get a fix for this a whole lot sooner from macromedia, than you would from say microsoft... And too, there *is* a workaround. Just be patient guys. But I definately don't think this is grounds for saying that macromedia isnt keen on cf... On 9/6/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 September 2005 12:37, Calvin Ward wrote: Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? No, you're not. It's one of the things that makes people say maybe MM isn't very keen on CF. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217428 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
seriously. CFMX7 came out before SP1. I'm sure the CFMX7 Updater will fix this install issue moving forward. -Adam On 9/6/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 September 2005 12:37, Calvin Ward wrote: Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? No, you're not. It's one of the things that makes people say maybe MM isn't very keen on CF. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217430 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 14:22, Adrocknaphobia wrote: seriously. CFMX7 came out before SP1. I'm sure the CFMX7 Updater So ? Did MM have no warning or time to produce a fix ? Have other large companies rolled out fixes for problems SP1 caused in their products, sometimes before SP1 was even released ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217432 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
On 9/6/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 September 2005 14:22, Adrocknaphobia wrote: seriously. CFMX7 came out before SP1. I'm sure the CFMX7 Updater So ? Did MM have no warning or time to produce a fix ? Have other large companies rolled out fixes for problems SP1 caused in their products, sometimes before SP1 was even released ? Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer What companies exactly are you talking about? More specifically, what alternatives to cf do you have that fixed all of their sp1 issues before it came out? To me, if you want to blame someone for the break of the installer, blame microsoft. They're the ones who didn't get it right the first time, and then released a fix that broke existing software solutions. -- Ryan Guill BlueEyesDevelopment [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ryanguill.com (270) 217.2399 The Coldfusion Open Application Library - COAL - http://coal.ryanguill.com www.ryanguill.com/ The Roman Empire: www.ryanguill.com/blog/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217433 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? No, you're not. It's one of the things that makes people say maybe MM isn't very keen on CF. You're absolutely right. I can't imagine why Macromedia has failed to use time-travel technology to ensure that their products are compatible with OS versions that don't yet exist when their products are released. Their failure to do so clearly demonstrates their lack of keenness. If they really cared, CF would not only work with Windows Server 2003 SP1, but also Vista and whatever version of Windows Mobile my cell phone will be using five years from now. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217435 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
You want some cheese with that whine? -Adam On 9/6/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 September 2005 14:22, Adrocknaphobia wrote: seriously. CFMX7 came out before SP1. I'm sure the CFMX7 Updater So ? Did MM have no warning or time to produce a fix ? Have other large companies rolled out fixes for problems SP1 caused in their products, sometimes before SP1 was even released ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217436 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Did MM have no warning or time to produce a fix? Have other large companies rolled out fixes for problems SP1 caused in their products, sometimes before SP1 was even released? There are quite a few application incompatibilities with SP1, actually. Most of them appear to come from other Microsoft applications, like Exchange and MOM. SP1 is not a trivial service pack. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217437 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Neither do I ... My comments really weren't intended to be derogatory toward MM, I was just expressing frustration... Yesterday was a very frustrating day for me and today isn't shaping up to be much better... And too, there *is* a workaround. Just be patient guys. But I definately don't think this is grounds for saying that macromedia isnt keen on cf... On 9/6/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 September 2005 12:37, Calvin Ward wrote: Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? No, you're not. It's one of the things that makes people say maybe MM isn't very keen on CF. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217439 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
And then on top of that, their installer just plain won't seem to extract right on some machines. Have you noticed that they checksums on the download page? It's whack!! Mike On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:37:22 -0400 Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 7:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems Thanks Mike, that fixed it. :) I'd seen the other technote but it didn't look to me from the description of it not being able to write some files that my problem was being described, so I hadn't bothered to check the workaround at the bottom. When you suggested it I went ahead and tried it anyway, but it didn't help. Uninstalling SP1 did work -- oddly, I couldn't get the CF Admin to load in a browser until I'd reinstalled SP1. Frustrating, but at least it's set up now... now I'm dealing with a totally different problem, trying to set up an MSDE server on that machine and not having any luck... I was able to get it installed once but then couldn't connect to it with anything (MS SQL Enterprise Manager, CF, ODBC) except a 3rd party tool called MSDE Manager (from WhiteBear I think it was)... Good to know the thing was working, but completely unhelpful if I can't connect to it with CF... So I uninstalled it to try again and now I can't get it reinstalled... sigh... just another day in freaking nothing works as advertised land... do you have SP1 installed already? If so, uninstall CF and uninstall SP1 and run the installer again. Then reapply SP1. There's a known installer error w/ SP1 on 2k3 later, Mike S. Isaac Dealey wrote: Why is it that the JNDI listen port is ALWAYS the problem that prevents CF from installing? ... I've got a new Win2003 server I'm trying to install my CF server on and I can't get the webserver connector to find the listen port... I've checked to make sure there isn't a firewall, proxy or anti-virus affecting it, and there isn't... I've manually configured the JNDI listen port and executed the connector from the command line and still nothing. So in lieu of that, I've tried to manually connect it by manually adding the .cfm and .cfc mappings in IIS to (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll). I'm able to get an index.htm file in web root via a browser, but trying to get a .cfm file in the same directory produces a 404 error... I'm at my wit's end. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217442 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 14:35, Ryan Guill wrote: alternatives to cf do you have that fixed all of their sp1 issues before it came out? Java. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217449 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
That reply doesn't even make sense. Java is a language, not an application. You are being nonsensical. Next you'll lay claim to inventing the question mark! -Adam On 9/6/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 September 2005 14:35, Ryan Guill wrote: alternatives to cf do you have that fixed all of their sp1 issues before it came out? Java. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217454 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
I don't really considering uninstalling an OS service pack to install software much of a work around... -Original Message- From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems I dont agree really. Yeah, its an inconvenience, but its not like you can just throw out a new installer on a whim. If they did we would have a lot more problems than we do. They have an updater thats either in beta or getting ready to be in beta, im sure they are rolling out the fix in it. You can be guarenteed this though, youre going to get a fix for this a whole lot sooner from macromedia, than you would from say microsoft... And too, there *is* a workaround. Just be patient guys. But I definately don't think this is grounds for saying that macromedia isnt keen on cf... On 9/6/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 September 2005 12:37, Calvin Ward wrote: Am I the only one that thinks that the fact that CFMX can't install on an updated Windows 2k3 server a problem? No, you're not. It's one of the things that makes people say maybe MM isn't very keen on CF. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217458 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 15:49, Adrocknaphobia wrote: That reply doesn't even make sense. Java is a language, not an application. You are being nonsensical. Coldfusion is a language :-) Seriously, can't think of any right now, but then the only thing I know of that is broke on XP-SP1 is Coldfusion, which tells me the people who wrote all the other tools I use did something that MM didn't. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217459 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Good point! :P Not to mention, ColdFusion is actually an application (not a server), that runs on JRun, which is a J2EE ('Java' 2 Enterprise Edition) server... -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems On Tuesday 06 September 2005 15:49, Adrocknaphobia wrote: That reply doesn't even make sense. Java is a language, not an application. You are being nonsensical. Coldfusion is a language :-) Seriously, can't think of any right now, but then the only thing I know of that is broke on XP-SP1 is Coldfusion, which tells me the people who wrote all the other tools I use did something that MM didn't. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217465 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
I don't really considering uninstalling an OS service pack to install software much of a work around... I agree with you on that. However, it looks like there are other workarounds that are less drastic. From the log entries that get generated, it looks like a permissions problem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217475 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
do you have SP1 installed already? If so, uninstall CF and uninstall SP1 and run the installer again. Then reapply SP1. There's a known installer error w/ SP1 on 2k3 later, Mike S. Isaac Dealey wrote: Why is it that the JNDI listen port is ALWAYS the problem that prevents CF from installing? ... I've got a new Win2003 server I'm trying to install my CF server on and I can't get the webserver connector to find the listen port... I've checked to make sure there isn't a firewall, proxy or anti-virus affecting it, and there isn't... I've manually configured the JNDI listen port and executed the connector from the command line and still nothing. So in lieu of that, I've tried to manually connect it by manually adding the .cfm and .cfc mappings in IIS to (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll). I'm able to get an index.htm file in web root via a browser, but trying to get a .cfm file in the same directory produces a 404 error... I'm at my wit's end. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217360 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
you can try what's in the technote as well, but it didn't work for me: http://www.macromedia.com/go/228c3aaa I had to uninstall CF and sp1 then reinstall mike S. Isaac Dealey wrote: Why is it that the JNDI listen port is ALWAYS the problem that prevents CF from installing? ... I've got a new Win2003 server I'm trying to install my CF server on and I can't get the webserver connector to find the listen port... I've checked to make sure there isn't a firewall, proxy or anti-virus affecting it, and there isn't... I've manually configured the JNDI listen port and executed the connector from the command line and still nothing. So in lieu of that, I've tried to manually connect it by manually adding the .cfm and .cfc mappings in IIS to (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll). I'm able to get an index.htm file in web root via a browser, but trying to get a .cfm file in the same directory produces a 404 error... I'm at my wit's end. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217361 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
This may be the same problem ive been having, how did you know that it was a jndi problem? On 9/5/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that the JNDI listen port is ALWAYS the problem that prevents CF from installing? ... I've got a new Win2003 server I'm trying to install my CF server on and I can't get the webserver connector to find the listen port... I've checked to make sure there isn't a firewall, proxy or anti-virus affecting it, and there isn't... I've manually configured the JNDI listen port and executed the connector from the command line and still nothing. So in lieu of that, I've tried to manually connect it by manually adding the .cfm and .cfc mappings in IIS to (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll). I'm able to get an index.htm file in web root via a browser, but trying to get a .cfm file in the same directory produces a 404 error... I'm at my wit's end. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217363 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
not sure if this is the exact answer to your question, but when you look at the install log, you may see any of the following errors: Ryan Guill wrote: This may be the same problem ive been having, how did you know that it was a jndi problem? On 9/5/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that the JNDI listen port is ALWAYS the problem that prevents CF from installing? ... I've got a new Win2003 server I'm trying to install my CF server on and I can't get the webserver connector to find the listen port... I've checked to make sure there isn't a firewall, proxy or anti-virus affecting it, and there isn't... I've manually configured the JNDI listen port and executed the connector from the command line and still nothing. So in lieu of that, I've tried to manually connect it by manually adding the .cfm and .cfc mappings in IIS to (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll). I'm able to get an index.htm file in web root via a browser, but trying to get a .cfm file in the same directory produces a 404 error... I'm at my wit's end. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217365 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
[Fwd: Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems]
oops, hit ctrl-enter instead of ctrl-v... Let's try this again: not sure if this is the exact answer to your question, but when you look at the install log, you may see any of the following errors: ANT Script Error: Status: ERROR Additional Notes: ERROR - standalone.xmljava.io.FileNotFoundException: D:\CFusionMX7\tmpmove.bat (Access is denied) ANT Script Error: Status: ERROR Additional Notes: ERROR - standalone.xmlD:\CFusionMX7\lib not found. ANT Script Error: Status: ERROR Additional Notes: ERROR - configure-rds.xmlcan not disable RDS: D:\CFusionMX7/wwwroot/WEB-INF/web.xml not foundANT Script Error: Status: ERROR Additional Notes: ERROR - standalone.xmljava.io.FileNotFoundException: D:\CFusionMX7\tmpmove.bat (Access is denied) ANT Script Error: Status: ERROR Additional Notes: ERROR - standalone.xmlD:\CFusionMX7\lib not found. ANT Script Error: Status: ERROR Additional Notes: ERROR - configure-rds.xmlcan not disable RDS: D:\CFusionMX7/wwwroot/WEB-INF/web.xml not found Web Server Connector Configuration Error Status: ERROR Additional Notes: ERROR - JNDI port 2920 for server coldfusion is not active Ryan Guill wrote: This may be the same problem ive been having, how did you know that it was a jndi problem? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217366 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
There's an mx_7_install.log file it creates in the cfusionmx directory that tells you what failed and it indicated the webserver connector... which never fails for any other reason, or at least, I've never seen it fail for any other reason. This may be the same problem ive been having, how did you know that it was a jndi problem? On 9/5/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that the JNDI listen port is ALWAYS the problem that prevents CF from installing? ... I've got a new Win2003 server I'm trying to install my CF server on and I can't get the webserver connector to find the listen port... I've checked to make sure there isn't a firewall, proxy or anti-virus affecting it, and there isn't... I've manually configured the JNDI listen port and executed the connector from the command line and still nothing. So in lieu of that, I've tried to manually connect it by manually adding the .cfm and .cfc mappings in IIS to (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll). I'm able to get an index.htm file in web root via a browser, but trying to get a .cfm file in the same directory produces a 404 error... I'm at my wit's end. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217399 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Installation - more FREAKING JNDI problems
Thanks Mike, that fixed it. :) I'd seen the other technote but it didn't look to me from the description of it not being able to write some files that my problem was being described, so I hadn't bothered to check the workaround at the bottom. When you suggested it I went ahead and tried it anyway, but it didn't help. Uninstalling SP1 did work -- oddly, I couldn't get the CF Admin to load in a browser until I'd reinstalled SP1. Frustrating, but at least it's set up now... now I'm dealing with a totally different problem, trying to set up an MSDE server on that machine and not having any luck... I was able to get it installed once but then couldn't connect to it with anything (MS SQL Enterprise Manager, CF, ODBC) except a 3rd party tool called MSDE Manager (from WhiteBear I think it was)... Good to know the thing was working, but completely unhelpful if I can't connect to it with CF... So I uninstalled it to try again and now I can't get it reinstalled... sigh... just another day in freaking nothing works as advertised land... do you have SP1 installed already? If so, uninstall CF and uninstall SP1 and run the installer again. Then reapply SP1. There's a known installer error w/ SP1 on 2k3 later, Mike S. Isaac Dealey wrote: Why is it that the JNDI listen port is ALWAYS the problem that prevents CF from installing? ... I've got a new Win2003 server I'm trying to install my CF server on and I can't get the webserver connector to find the listen port... I've checked to make sure there isn't a firewall, proxy or anti-virus affecting it, and there isn't... I've manually configured the JNDI listen port and executed the connector from the command line and still nothing. So in lieu of that, I've tried to manually connect it by manually adding the .cfm and .cfc mappings in IIS to (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll). I'm able to get an index.htm file in web root via a browser, but trying to get a .cfm file in the same directory produces a 404 error... I'm at my wit's end. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217400 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54