Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
At 12:07 PM 1/6/2006, you wrote: Keith, The reason for that is easy. When you buy insurance, you are gambling. Rich Yep, & they win most. Ever wonder why they have the big expensive buildings?
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Keith, The reason for that is easy. When you buy insurance, you are gambling. Rich-Original Message- From: KW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Jan 6, 2006 12:45 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Brad, just went to your site - Nice rides. Tried to follow the links for the Vette crash & State Farm, but all the links went to an online poker site??!!! Keith - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions You just have to start them out like I did. I picked my (now) wife up for our first date in my buddy's 1970 Z/28 with 3" Simpson belts as my daily driver was a '69 Dart. I already had the Corvette, and I bought the Chevelle within a few months of meeting her. She knew what she was getting into, and if she could survive the Beast of the Camaro, then everything else was no problem. Since then, we have driven around town (http://epage.com/brad/socalus.jpg) to Laughlin (in the summer), Sedona (http://epage.com/brad/sedonavette.jpg), Monterey, and other long hauls in both the Corvette and Chevelle. Many early trips were taken to Santa Barbara and Cambria (up hwy 1 near Hearst Castle) in the Chevelle as her Toyota was too small for me to sit in for long. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl GrovesSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:38 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, B&M Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there?" Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.com From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -----Original Message-From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I'
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Brad, just went to your site - Nice
rides.
Tried to follow the links for the Vette crash &
State Farm, but all the links went to an online poker site??!!!
Keith
- Original Message -
From:
Brad Waller
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:01
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member,
questions
You just have to start them out like I did. I
picked my (now) wife up for our first date in my buddy's 1970 Z/28 with 3"
Simpson belts as my daily driver was a '69 Dart. I already had the
Corvette, and I bought the Chevelle within a few months of meeting
her.
She knew what she was getting into, and if she could
survive the Beast of the Camaro, then everything else was no problem.
Since then, we have driven around town (http://epage.com/brad/socalus.jpg) to
Laughlin (in the summer), Sedona (http://epage.com/brad/sedonavette.jpg),
Monterey, and other long hauls in both the Corvette and Chevelle. Many
early trips were taken to Santa Barbara and Cambria (up hwy 1 near Hearst
Castle) in the Chevelle as her Toyota was too small for me to sit in for
long.
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16
BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes |
275/40/17 Kumho MX
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl
GrovesSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:38 AMTo: 'The
Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member,
questions
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one!
LOL!
When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1,
286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson
gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans,
B&M Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated
that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was
too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at
me about the car.
The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit
hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to
it.
Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time
with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore,
why is it just sitting there?"
Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.com
From: Ron Menchey
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05,
2006 8:12 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject:
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys
and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and
counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives
it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of
it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for
another yr or two.
Ron
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From:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006
8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New
member, questions
Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into
this stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it.
At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3
years. My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my
life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car
and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in
my fast & noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice
cream. Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime
love affair with your car & your wife!!!
Phil G. 65 SS
-Original Message-From: Karl
Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38
-0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Hello -
I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I
start posting.
My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle.
I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when
I was in high school.
I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray.
I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my
Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things
RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
I hear and respect what your saying Brad. But #1 was all cool we spent many a date night not at the movies but replacing a blown BW 4 speed ( muncies were rare and cost $$ more in 65 ) or lowly drop out tri five rear gears.. It was not till i got back from the Pond did the worm turn... I could blame it on the sign of the times. ( finding ones self ) Peer Pressure ALL her Collage friends Being a vet I was like treated like a leaper. That coupled with the fact i was a Motor HEAD,) Not as accepted in general society like it is today. = disaster. But I do Agree One Bazillion percent.. Expose them to what there in for. like trying on a new pair of shoes. Some are Keepers... and sad to say some are Weepers... From: "Brad Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:01:07 -0800 You just have to start them out like I did. I picked my (now) wife up for our first date in my buddy's 1970 Z/28 with 3" Simpson belts as my daily driver was a '69 Dart. I already had the Corvette, and I bought the Chevelle within a few months of meeting her. She knew what she was getting into, and if she could survive the Beast of the Camaro, then everything else was no problem. Since then, we have driven around town (http://epage.com/brad/socalus.jpg) to Laughlin (in the summer), Sedona (http://epage.com/brad/sedonavette.jpg), Monterey, and other long hauls in both the Corvette and Chevelle. Many early trips were taken to Santa Barbara and Cambria (up hwy 1 near Hearst Castle) in the Chevelle as her Toyota was too small for me to sit in for long. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1 '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Groves Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:38 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, B&M Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there?" Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com <http://www.karlgroves.com/> _ From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message- From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500 Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now e
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Hi Ron... I feel For you Brother... Wayne From: "Ron Menchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:52:08 -0500 Truer words were never spokenYa got to respect each otherYea I was in Nam for a bit my own self..Your first sounds like mine..by the time I got back home after saying good bye to her,she and her mom had all my cards maxed out and tons of other bills...took me over 5 yrs to pay off...worst thing was my HUGE record collection,with tons of out of print now albums,was sent to me in a huge box...she melted them all into a huge ball...that was cold.. Mench - Original Message - From: "Wayne Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and no tools) My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some B&W big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they are... Wayne ACES 1556 TC 186 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
You just have to start them out like I did. I
picked my (now) wife up for our first date in my buddy's 1970 Z/28 with 3"
Simpson belts as my daily driver was a '69 Dart. I already had the
Corvette, and I bought the Chevelle within a few months of meeting
her.
She knew what she was getting into, and if she could
survive the Beast of the Camaro, then everything else was no problem.
Since then, we have driven around town (http://epage.com/brad/socalus.jpg) to
Laughlin (in the summer), Sedona (http://epage.com/brad/sedonavette.jpg),
Monterey, and other long hauls in both the Corvette and Chevelle. Many
early trips were taken to Santa Barbara and Cambria (up hwy 1 near Hearst
Castle) in the Chevelle as her Toyota was too small for me to sit in for
long.
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16
BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes |
275/40/17 Kumho MX
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl
GrovesSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:38 AMTo: 'The
Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member,
questions
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one!
LOL!
When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286
cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear
drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, B&M
Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that
car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too
noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me
about the car.
The
current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to
see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it.
Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time
with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore,
why is it just sitting there?"
Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.com
From: Ron Menchey
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05,
2006 8:12 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys
and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and
counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives
it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she
likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr
or two.
Ron
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From:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New
member, questions
Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this
stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57
I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3
years. My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my
life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and
the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast
& noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream.
Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with
your car & your wife!!!
Phil G. 65 SS
-Original Message-From: Karl Groves
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed,
4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member,
questions
Hello -
I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I
start posting.
My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle.
I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when
I was in high school.
I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray.
I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my
Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with
her.
Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living
arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on.
The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side
money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project
car.
The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The
guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did.
It is somewhat of a basket case. There
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Can you say "Bee-otch"? -Original Message- >From: Ron Menchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jan 5, 2006 11:52 AM >To: The Chevelle Mailing List >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > >Truer words were never spokenYa got to respect each otherYea I was >in Nam for a bit my own self..Your first sounds like mine..by the time I got >back home after saying good bye to her,she and her mom had all my cards >maxed out and tons of other bills...took me over 5 yrs to pay off...worst >thing was my HUGE record collection,with tons of out of print now albums,was >sent to me in a huge box...she melted them all into a huge ball...that was >cold.. > >Mench >- Original Message - >From: "Wayne Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:41 AM >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > >> Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! >> >> Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) >> Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she >> liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was >> rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) >> IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy >> Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. >> Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and >> 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, >> the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my >> tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and >> no >> tools) >> >> My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or >> Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about >> Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater >> how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads >> But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... >> Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat >> with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other >> side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some >> B&W big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the >> set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. >> >> So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest >> and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they >> are... >> >> Wayne >> ACES 1556 >> TC 186 >> >> >>> >> >> _ >> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >> > >
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Truer words were never spokenYa got to respect each otherYea I was in Nam for a bit my own self..Your first sounds like mine..by the time I got back home after saying good bye to her,she and her mom had all my cards maxed out and tons of other bills...took me over 5 yrs to pay off...worst thing was my HUGE record collection,with tons of out of print now albums,was sent to me in a huge box...she melted them all into a huge ball...that was cold.. Mench - Original Message - From: "Wayne Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and no tools) My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some B&W big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they are... Wayne ACES 1556 TC 186 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Hi Karl and welcome to the list. I've been on the list since I bought my "dream car" in April '05 . I guess I am one the lucky few that have the best of both worlds A wife of 29 years that enjoys the car as much as I do and having my dream car . Good luck on your projectyou'll find a wealth of information from the guys here on the list. Pete Hnat '69 Chevelle SS Apex, N.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Groves Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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You nailed it Wayne. Respect for each other in every way imaginable. I truly feel that's the root of any good relationship. -- Shawn Price Network Team Lead Technology Solutions Morrison Homes 404-427-8229 On Jan 5, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Wayne Kline wrote: Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and no tools) My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some B&W big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they are... Wayne ACES 1556 TC 186 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and no tools) My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some B&W big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they are... Wayne ACES 1556 TC 186 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Glad you guys got it right the second time! I did it right the first time. My wife buys me tools as presents(glass Bead cabinet for Christmas!!)...awesome...she probably got it from her dad(30+ Ford mechanic). Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: Ron Menchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, January 5, 2006 8:12 am Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything > to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old > cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever > the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she > likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for > another yr or two. > > Ron > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > > Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this > stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm > sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My > new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!! She's a > keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! > LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod a > few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List & > may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your > wife!!! > > Phil G. 65 SS > > > -Original Message- > From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500 > Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > > Hello - > > I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself > before I > start posting. > > My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 > Chevelle. > I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 > Camaro when > I was in high school. > > I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. > > I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting > rid of my > Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very > long with > her. > > Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living > arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. > > The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks > to the side > money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford > a project > car. > > The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my > babysitter. The > guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but > never did. > > It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical > places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl > induction scoop > with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. > > The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath > the vinyl > top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second > issue is the > steering column must be completely screwed up, because you > basically have to > "hot wire" the car to drive it. > > For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, > of owning > an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to > have the > car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm > eventuallygoing to touch every nut and bolt on this car. > > I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly > stock, except > for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. > > All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks > though. > > > Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this > list. > Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? > 136371B202451 > > > Thanks! > > Karl Groves > Master Certified CIW > http://www.karlgroves.com > > > > > >
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Karl, My 'new' wife grew up with an older brother and his friends in rural South Carolina... she knows that boys like to 'play cars'. So long as we get to spend some time together during the week, she knows that I need time to myself in the shop, and sometimes I need other friends to come over so we can 'play cars and motorcycles' and during especially geeky times, 'play computers'. Honestly it's different for all women, and I truly think it's how you respect her time and needs. Besides, she's got a project car that I'm working on as well, so I've got good reason to spend all hours in the shop, only to come to be smelling like kerosene, grease and orange Go-Jo. -- Shawn Price Network Team Lead Technology Solutions Morrison Homes 404-427-8229 On Jan 5, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Karl Groves wrote: I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, B&M Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there?" Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ..34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message- From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500 Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eve
RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one!
LOL!
When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286
cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive,
Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, B&M Holeshot
convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She
*constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There
wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the
car.
The
current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see
how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it.
Anyone
have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to
avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting
there?"
Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.com
From: Ron Menchey
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006
8:12 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and
hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves
old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the
roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way
it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two.
Ron
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03
AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New
member, questions
Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this
stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm
sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My
new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!! She's a
keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!!
LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod
a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List &
may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your
wife!!!
Phil G. 65 SS
-Original Message-From: Karl Groves
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4
Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member,
questions
Hello -
I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I
start posting.
My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle.
I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when
I was in high school.
I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray.
I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my
Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with
her.
Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living
arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on.
The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side
money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project
car.
The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The
guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did.
It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical
places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop
with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues.
The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl
top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the
steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to
"hot wire" the car to drive it.
For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning
an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the
car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually
going to touch every nut and bolt on this car.
I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except
for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff.
All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though.
Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list.
Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN?
136371B202451
Thanks!
Karl Groves
Master Certified CIW
http://www.karlgroves.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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BTW, I used my "Mulligan" on my first wife as well. Same thing, this one isn't really into this either, but is starting to come around. She actually went to a cruse last 4th of July with me and enjoyed herself. Rich-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 5, 2006 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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Welcome aboard, Karl. Good luck with you project. Rich -Original Message- >From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jan 4, 2006 5:19 PM >To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net >Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > >Hello - > >I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I >start posting. > >My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. > >I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when >I was in high school. > >I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. > >I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my >Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with >her. > >Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living >arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. > >The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side >money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project >car. > >The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The >guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. > >It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical >places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop >with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. > >The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl >top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the >steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to >"hot wire" the car to drive it. > >For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning >an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the >car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually >going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. > >I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except >for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. > >All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. > > >Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. > >Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? >136371B202451 > > >Thanks! > >Karl Groves >Master Certified CIW >http://www.karlgroves.com > > > > >
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Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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Thanks to all the folks who've responded! I just uploaded some pics to my photo gallery. http://karlcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=20 I'll actually be building a site for the car to track everything I do to it. That is, if I can get out from under this side work! I'll post a link when it is up. I've taken a look at some of the links everyone's posted. Thank you guys very much for those links, especially http://www.chevellestuff.com. Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com > -Original Message- > From: John W. Lonadier, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > Hi Karl, welcome to the list. As everyone has said , you will > find a wealth of information here. > > John L. > ACES #5597 > 70 LS5 TRIBUTE > http://chevellfan.com/index89.html > http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier- > chv70.html > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Groves > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:20 PM > To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > > Hello - > > I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce > myself before I start posting. > > My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a > 71 Chevelle. > > I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a > 70 Camaro when I was in high school. > > I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. > > I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into > getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, > things didn't last very long with her. > > Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and > my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an > old car to work on. > > The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, > thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, > I've been able to afford a project car. > > The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. > The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on > it" but never did. > > It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the > stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried > putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all > sorts of small issues. > > The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted > underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be > transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must > be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot > wire" the car to drive it. > > For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to > me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind > of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To > me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch > every nut and bolt on this car. > > I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly > stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as > seats and dash stuff. > > All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. > > > Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found > this list. > > Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? > 136371B202451 > > > Thanks! > > Karl Groves > Master Certified CIW > http://www.karlgroves.com > > > > > > > > > >
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Hi Karl, welcome to the list. As everyone has said , you will find a wealth of information here. John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Groves Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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wecome karl, i am a bodyman who has manny restorations under my belt and am the owner of a 72 ss chevelle conv. of 15 years witch i truly love and wouldn't sell for no reason .lol but as to your problem with your roof i am tring something different i bought my son a 73 nova virtually rust free except for the darn roof putting a used roof on will be extreamly time consuming and hard to find/expensive so i am going to try the por-15 method we only have a few small holes and por-15 had a primer,body filler and a patch so unless you have the rear window/ front windsheild gutter problems im gonna give it a try i will coat the outside as well as inside with the treatment as to be sure of it not coming back im going to be putting a showroom paint job on this car so i am putting a lot of faith into this and havent heard as of any one on the list tring this route but would appreciate any feedback form others who have done this roof experament i belive in por15 as i have used it in other applications but not on the vinyil top conversion aspect so ill let ya know how it works and wecome to a great comminity Darin Bailey
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welcome aboard! hope you get YEARS of enjoyment out of your newly purchased chevelle! - Original Message - From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:19 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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Also try Don Hughey at hughey's auto ranch in South Carolina. --- Brad Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or, make a convertible! You might be able to find a > donor roof by checking > junkyards or parts houses in the Southwest. > > You can always give Dick at True Connections > (http://www.true-connections.com/) a call or email. > I got some parts from > him years ago, as well as through vendors at Pomona > and Long Beach Swap > Meets. > > True Connections > 3848 Pierce Street > Riverside, Ca. 92503 > > Phone: 1-800-600-4144 > Tech: (951) 688-6040 > Fax: (951) 688-6939 > Mon-Fri 8-5 (Pacific Time) > Saturday Call for hours > > General Information: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes > | 245/45/16 BFG R1 > '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes > | 275/40/17 Kumho MX > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Nasta > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:59 PM > > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > > > The roof is pretty near impossible to get and > there is not > > much room to work > > near those seams where they tend to rot out. You > will need a > > really good > > body shop or you may want to reconsider your > purchase. There > > are always cars > > out there and in many cases people find that the > cost of > > putting it back > > together will always outweigh what they can get > for it. But, > > if it is a > > labor of love and "your mission" then you don't > worry about the cost. > > Anything can be fixed and maintained well enough > to keep it > > looking great. > > All it takes is money. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Karl Groves > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:20 PM > > To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > > > Hello - > > > > I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to > introduce > > myself before I > > start posting. > > > > My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) > purchased a > > 71 Chevelle. > > > > I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, > starting with a > > 70 Camaro when > > I was in high school. > > > > I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. > > > > I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured > me into > > getting rid of my > > Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things > didn't last > > very long with > > her. > > > > Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" > vehicles and my living > > arrangements weren't really conducive to having an > old car to work on. > > > > The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months > ago and, > > thanks to the side > > money I've been earning making web sites, I've > been able to > > afford a project > > car. > > > > The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the > neighbor of my > > babysitter. The > > guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on > working on it" > > but never did. > > > > It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in > all the stereotypical > > places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting > on a cowl > > induction scoop > > with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. > > > > The two main problems are the roof is completely > rusted > > underneath the vinyl > > top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. > The second > > issue is the > > steering column must be completely screwed up, > because you > > basically have to > > "hot wire" the car to drive it. > > > > For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The > point, to > > me, of owning > > an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of > guy who > > wants to have the > > car already done for him. To me, the joy comes > from knowing > > I'm eventually > > going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. > > > > I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it > look mostly > > stock, except > > for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats > and dash stuff. > > > > All best are off for the drive train, suspension, > and breaks though. > > > > > > Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to > have found > > this list. > > > > Last, can someone tell me something about my car > from this VIN? > > 136371B202451 > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Karl Groves > > Master Certified CIW > > http://www.karlgroves.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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Well good for you! I, for one, am very happy for you. It's a blast for me as I can be at home. And my wife can see me if she needs something and I am "in the garage". Get a digital camera of make digital disks as you go. Send us your link when you can Mike --- Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello - > > I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to > introduce myself before I > start posting. > > My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) > purchased a 71 Chevelle. > > I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, > starting with a 70 Camaro when > I was in high school. > > I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. > > I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me > into getting rid of my > Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things > didn't last very long with > her. > > Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" > vehicles and my living > arrangements weren't really conducive to having an > old car to work on. > > The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago > and, thanks to the side > money I've been earning making web sites, I've been > able to afford a project > car. > > The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor > of my babysitter. The > guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on > working on it" but never did. > > It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all > the stereotypical > places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting > on a cowl induction scoop > with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. > > The two main problems are the roof is completely > rusted underneath the vinyl > top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. > The second issue is the > steering column must be completely screwed up, > because you basically have to > "hot wire" the car to drive it. > > For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The > point, to me, of owning > an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of > guy who wants to have the > car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from > knowing I'm eventually > going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. > > I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it > look mostly stock, except > for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and > dash stuff. > > All best are off for the drive train, suspension, > and breaks though. > > > Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to > have found this list. > > Last, can someone tell me something about my car > from this VIN? > 136371B202451 > > > Thanks! > > Karl Groves > Master Certified CIW > http://www.karlgroves.com > > > > > > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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>> 202451-Build sequence no. (202,451 car built) Actually, the 102,451st Chevelle built. Sequence numbers started with 11 for the first car for most years at most plants. :*) Dale
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Ditto to Bill's suggested links. I've been a member of Team Chevelle for over 7 yrs (http://www.chevelles.com/forums) and I own/manage the http://www.chevellestuff.com site with gobs of decoding information on 64-72 Chevelles. As Bill said, the only thing the VIN tells you is a Chevrolet (1) V8 (36) Malibu 2-dr sport coupe (37), 1971 (1), Baltimore (B), with a sequence number of 202451 making it the 102,451st 71 Chevelle (all models) built at Baltimore that year. The Fisher Body plate on the top of the cowl should give you a body date, trim code and paint codes. If the engine is original to the car, my site also has the suffix codes. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions >Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. > >Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? >136371B202451 Welcome to the list. A huge amount of information about Chevelles will be found at www.chevelles.com/forums and www.chevellestuff.com Use the search function & you will find most of what you're looking for, and when you don't, post a question in the appropriate place. We help each other on this list too, but it's not as large as Team Chevelle. The cowl tag for your car, located on the driver's side under the hood will give a little more information than the VIN which is what you posted. All I know for sure from the VIN is it's a 1971 V-8 2 door sport coupe that was built in Baltimore. BillL
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Welcome Karl: 13637 -2 DR Coupe 1-1971 B-Baltimore assembly plant 202451-Build sequence no. (202,451 car built) Mike Treanor 69 SS396 - Original Message - From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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Hi Karl, Welcome aboard! You'll find alot of folks here who feel just as you do, in regard to the satisfaction of working on your own car. I have a '66 Malibu, and am in the process of swapping out the rear end. This is a major step for me, as this is my first time doing this and I'm 35. It's going well though, and if I can get my butt moving a little quicker, the car should be back together by the weekend. You will find this list invaluable- Without these guys, I never would have gotten my '66 back together. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm --- Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello - > > I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to > introduce myself before I > start posting. > > My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) > purchased a 71 Chevelle. > > I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, > starting with a 70 Camaro when > I was in high school. > > I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. > > I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me > into getting rid of my > Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things > didn't last very long with > her. > > Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" > vehicles and my living > arrangements weren't really conducive to having an > old car to work on. > > The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago > and, thanks to the side > money I've been earning making web sites, I've been > able to afford a project > car. > > The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor > of my babysitter. The > guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on > working on it" but never did. > > It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all > the stereotypical > places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting > on a cowl induction scoop > with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. > > The two main problems are the roof is completely > rusted underneath the vinyl > top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. > The second issue is the > steering column must be completely screwed up, > because you basically have to > "hot wire" the car to drive it. > > For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The > point, to me, of owning > an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of > guy who wants to have the > car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from > knowing I'm eventually > going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. > > I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it > look mostly stock, except > for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and > dash stuff. > > All best are off for the drive train, suspension, > and breaks though. > > > Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to > have found this list. > > Last, can someone tell me something about my car > from this VIN? > 136371B202451 > > > Thanks! > > Karl Groves > Master Certified CIW > http://www.karlgroves.com > > > > > > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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Or, make a convertible! You might be able to find a donor roof by checking junkyards or parts houses in the Southwest. You can always give Dick at True Connections (http://www.true-connections.com/) a call or email. I got some parts from him years ago, as well as through vendors at Pomona and Long Beach Swap Meets. True Connections 3848 Pierce Street Riverside, Ca. 92503 Phone: 1-800-600-4144 Tech: (951) 688-6040 Fax: (951) 688-6939 Mon-Fri 8-5 (Pacific Time) Saturday Call for hours General Information: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1 '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:59 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > The roof is pretty near impossible to get and there is not > much room to work > near those seams where they tend to rot out. You will need a > really good > body shop or you may want to reconsider your purchase. There > are always cars > out there and in many cases people find that the cost of > putting it back > together will always outweigh what they can get for it. But, > if it is a > labor of love and "your mission" then you don't worry about the cost. > Anything can be fixed and maintained well enough to keep it > looking great. > All it takes is money. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karl Groves > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:20 PM > To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions > > Hello - > > I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce > myself before I > start posting. > > My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a > 71 Chevelle. > > I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a > 70 Camaro when > I was in high school. > > I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. > > I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into > getting rid of my > Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last > very long with > her. > > Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living > arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. > > The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, > thanks to the side > money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to > afford a project > car. > > The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my > babysitter. The > guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" > but never did. > > It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical > places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl > induction scoop > with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. > > The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted > underneath the vinyl > top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second > issue is the > steering column must be completely screwed up, because you > basically have to > "hot wire" the car to drive it. > > For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to > me, of owning > an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who > wants to have the > car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing > I'm eventually > going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. > > I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly > stock, except > for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. > > All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. > > > Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found > this list. > > Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? > 136371B202451 > > > Thanks! > > Karl Groves > Master Certified CIW > http://www.karlgroves.com > > > > > > >
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The roof is pretty near impossible to get and there is not much room to work near those seams where they tend to rot out. You will need a really good body shop or you may want to reconsider your purchase. There are always cars out there and in many cases people find that the cost of putting it back together will always outweigh what they can get for it. But, if it is a labor of love and "your mission" then you don't worry about the cost. Anything can be fixed and maintained well enough to keep it looking great. All it takes is money. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karl Groves Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Welcome to the list. A huge amount of information about Chevelles will be found at www.chevelles.com/forums and www.chevellestuff.com Use the search function & you will find most of what you're looking for, and when you don't, post a question in the appropriate place. We help each other on this list too, but it's not as large as Team Chevelle. The cowl tag for your car, located on the driver's side under the hood will give a little more information than the VIN which is what you posted. All I know for sure from the VIN is it's a 1971 V-8 2 door sport coupe that was built in Baltimore. BillL
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Hi Karl, Welcome aboard! You'll find alot of folks here who feel just as you do, in regard to the satisfaction of working on your own car. I have a '66 Malibu, and am in the process of swapping out the rear end. This is a major step for me, as this is my first time doing this and I'm 35. It's going well though, and if I can get my butt moving a little quicker, the car should be back together by the weekend. You will find this list invaluable- Without these guys, I never would have gotten my '66 back together. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm --- Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello - > > I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to > introduce myself before I > start posting. > > My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) > purchased a 71 Chevelle. > > I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, > starting with a 70 Camaro when > I was in high school. > > I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. > > I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me > into getting rid of my > Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things > didn't last very long with > her. > > Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" > vehicles and my living > arrangements weren't really conducive to having an > old car to work on. > > The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago > and, thanks to the side > money I've been earning making web sites, I've been > able to afford a project > car. > > The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor > of my babysitter. The > guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on > working on it" but never did. > > It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all > the stereotypical > places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting > on a cowl induction scoop > with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. > > The two main problems are the roof is completely > rusted underneath the vinyl > top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. > The second issue is the > steering column must be completely screwed up, > because you basically have to > "hot wire" the car to drive it. > > For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The > point, to me, of owning > an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of > guy who wants to have the > car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from > knowing I'm eventually > going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. > > I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it > look mostly stock, except > for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and > dash stuff. > > All best are off for the drive train, suspension, > and breaks though. > > > Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to > have found this list. > > Last, can someone tell me something about my car > from this VIN? > 136371B202451 > > > Thanks! > > Karl Groves > Master Certified CIW > http://www.karlgroves.com > > > > > > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
