Re: HEATED RESPONSE - WAS RE: Lab exam
Way to go Adrian Wow, I wish I could put post like yours together. Robert "Adrian Chew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8v52mu$fcb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8v52mu$fcb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Gee... must have been a really bad day huh? Can't say I disagree with > what's been said though - there's a pretty big pipeline of people waiting > for lab exam openings and from rumors heard of people getting throw out > halfway through day one - there's more than enough attempts made without any > hope of succeeding. > > The part that troubles me most is those newbie CCNPs or CCIE writtens who > have no idea what they're in for next. If you ask me, having finished your > CCNP/CCDP/CCIE written is like 20% of the battle - the rest is yet to come! > It can be done - with practice, patience, practice, experience, practice, > study - and most important of all - TIME! And if you contrast it to elite > atheletes who train a couple of hours a day for a lifetime, you gotta > actually admit the CCIE is actually less demanding. > > And if you needed a whole bunch of test questions and exam prep tools such > as Boson for those written tests, KIV the CCIE - you'll save yourself a lot > of grief and leave one extra spot available for someone else who stands a > decent shot at it. Each CCNP/CCDP level test should be passable by just > reading a book, and having had some hands on with Cisco equipment (say 20% > of job over 2 years in some network admin position). The CCIE written > should only need a bit of brushing up here and there after on some topics. > > You can try to memorize concepts and get certified - but lack of > understanding will be a sure killer for the CCIE lab, and you'll never be > the sharpest engineer out there. For those people who are starting out and > struggling with subnetting and VLSM, networking likely isn't the line for > you. For those who've gotten past CCNP/CCDP - stop, think twice, before you > embark for the CCIE. I have a friend who started out more than two years > ago for the CCIE, he's got his CCNP, passed his CCIE written, but is holding > off the lab - he knows he's not ready. And that's not to say he's not > sharp, he's got an engineering background, is the lead Cisco tech in his > company, but he's got a girlfriend and life and time he'd rather spend doing > other stuff as well besides preparing for the lab. > > Let's face it - the CCIE isn't for everyone. Unfortunately the hype has > gathered a bunch of money hungry certification crazy folks into the race. > Thankfully - it simply cannot be done without putting in the requisite > effort - you would have to work very hard at trying to cheat to pass the > CCIE lab - so hard, that its just like having worked/studied for it (hehe!). > Fortunately, for those who dig it - the CCIE can be a very in-depth > fulfilling lifetime experience - Cisco technology is full of neat surprises > and tricks, and the world just needs more and more of us. > > Chuck, hang it there - it can be tough going, but someday soon. Thought for > the future - all IT certifications should be lab based... a one day CCNP > lab exam, 1/2 day CCNA lab exam - and make the MCSE a 2-day lab, that will > sure weed out the thousands of paper MSCEs! > > Regards, > Adrian > > ""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 004201c050d7$031878a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:004201c050d7$031878a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > WARNING: The following is a bit heated. > > > > YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP THIS ONE > > > > R > > > > A > > > > N > > > > T > > > > A > > > > N > > > > D > > > > R > > > > A > > > > V > > > > E > > > > > > OK. Steam coming out of ears. I've been trying to avoid comment on a > number > > of these kinds of questions, but this does it. > > > > IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THE F*ING WORK, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU > DESERVE > > TO BECOME A F***ING CCIE??? > > > > The certification is Cisco Certified Internetworking EXPERT! > > > > It is NOT Cisco Certified Internetworking SLACKER > > > > THERE ARE NOT SHORTCUTS DO THE DAMN WORK, OR GIVE IT UP > > > > Sorry, but there are far too many unqualified people clogging the > pipelines, > > for training classes and for the Lab itself. The certification is hard to > > achieve for a reason. GET IT?? > > > > My apologies for losing my temper, but I am getting pretty tired of > spending > > all my spare moments in certification related activities while at the same > > time seeing this kind of stuff coming across all the Cisco lists. > > > > RANT AND RAVE > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Hubert Pun > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:24 PM > > To: Cisco Study Group > > Subject: Lab exam > > > > Any one know what to expect on the lab exam? > > for example, out of 100 points > > how many points are BGP? > > how many points are SNA or DLSw? > > how many points are IP
Re: 2500 bootproms
Call CISCO, they give it away for shipping costs. Robert srclevenger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I was swaping boot proms between rtr's that I have for my study and bent > one of the pins to where it broke off. Does anyone have a set of spares > (10.x.x or above) that I could pickup for a min. price? > > regards, > > Steve Clevenger > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frame-Relay Question...
Hello: Excuse me if this kind of question doesn't belong here. I am in the process of preparing for CCNA and reading Wendell Odom book (BTW, any wanna be CCNA read this one regardless what others have to say). I am in WAN section right now. In his example of partially meshed network ( routers A B C D, A connects to B C D and A is only the router connected by B C D). I understand why we need subinterfaces on router A. But why we he has subinterface set on routers B C D? Is it because of setup consistency or what is the catch? Thanks, Robert Borejszo _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to set Linux gateway?
This document is a good start: http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html Regards, Robert Borejszo "RANMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8teqf8$cta$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8teqf8$cta$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > hello? > > who can teach me how to set LINUX gateway... > forexample , I got and IP address for eth0 : 202.123.222.123 > and my internal IP eth1 : 192.168.0.1 > > > Thank you! > Ken. > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lab scenarios
Hello group: I've done some search, but I was not very successful looking for some lab/network scenarios to practice on my home lab equipment. I am looking for CCNA and CCNP levels. Any pointers or suggestions would be very appreciated. Robert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FR Back-to-Back Cable
Go to ebay. You can get it there pretty much any time for around 30-40 bucks. Just search using keywords like cisco serial cable or db60 or simply click below http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468780702 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=465892451 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=466999897 Cheers, Robert Borejszo "FRS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8ss5si$2n7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8ss5si$2n7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > > I have a 2523 switch which is to act as the FR switch. > Can anyone give me the part number for the DTE-DCE back-to-back cables? > > Many thanks, > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Cheap sniffer , but a good one for Windows 98 asd ME
ethereal. It's free. Visit www.ethereal.com . Setup requires a bit more than just double click compare to commercial products. Robert Borejszo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Does anyone no of a good home sniffer that is not going to break the bank, > that would work well to learn and to do small network analyzing... > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Protocol Analyzer displaying ARP
http://www.ethereal.com/ great free protocol analyzer with functionality of expensive commercial products. Robert Borejszo "Jeff Lodwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Does anybody have an example or know where I can get an example of a > protocol analyzer output showing information about ARP? Thanks, Jeff > Lodwick MCSE/CCNA > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SPAN problem
Hello: I am trying to set SPAN on my 2924 switch using command set span My switch doesn't recognize this command. As matter of fact when I do set ? the only provided option is . What's wrong? I was sure that 2924 can do span. your help will be appreciated. BTW, I am in privileged mode. Thanks, Robert ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN BRI simulation....
Hello everybody: Excuse my simple question, but I'm just a novice wanna be CISCO guru. I am in the process of building my home lab. At present time I have the following equipment: 2503 2514 760. Both 2503 and 760 comes with ISDN BRI. Is it possible to connect this two over ISDN BRI to simulate ISDN communication? Thanks in advance, Robert ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
