Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
The 1900 series is also menu-driven. To make things more confusing, their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on the 2900XL series. John >>> "Dennis Laganiere" 12/17/01 11:45:33 AM >>> I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is between families of switches. Here's what I've got so far: IOS-Based Cat 1900 series Cat 2820 series Cat 2900XL series Set-based Cat5000 series Cat 6000 series Cat 6500 series Cat 2900 However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches. Does that sound right? --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29393&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
Cisco has had two releases of the "2900XL" series. The early ones were deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to remember that they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested from the list. For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, 2926. BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based. > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] > > > The 1900 series is also menu-driven. To make things more confusing, > their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on > the 2900XL series. > > John > > >>> "Dennis Laganiere" 12/17/01 11:45:33 > AM >>> > I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is > between families of switches. Here's what I've got so far: > > IOS-Based > Cat 1900 series > Cat 2820 series > Cat 2900XL series > > Set-based > Cat5000 series > Cat 6000 series > Cat 6500 series > Cat 2900 > > However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and > uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches. > > Does that sound right? > > --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29396&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
right on with the menu driven on the early 1900's ... they are goofy. jason -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 02:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] Cisco has had two releases of the "2900XL" series. The early ones were deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to remember that they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested from the list. For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, 2926. BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based. > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] > > > The 1900 series is also menu-driven. To make things more confusing, > their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on > the 2900XL series. > > John > > >>> "Dennis Laganiere" 12/17/01 11:45:33 > AM >>> > I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is > between families of switches. Here's what I've got so far: > > IOS-Based > Cat 1900 series > Cat 2820 series > Cat 2900XL series > > Set-based > Cat5000 series > Cat 6000 series > Cat 6500 series > Cat 2900 > > However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and > uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches. > > Does that sound right? > > --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29402&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
I believe you are correct that the earlier 2900XL switches were (much) deeper and required a DB9 console connector. All of the 2900s I've ever used were IOS based, not set based. However, I can't say I've used all of the different models 2900 out there =) Mike Daniel Cotts wrote: > > Cisco has had two releases of the "2900XL" series. The early > ones were > deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to > remember that > they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested > from the list. > > For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, > 2926. > > BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29406&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
I know that the 2948G and 2980 switches are Cat Based not IOS. -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] Cisco has had two releases of the "2900XL" series. The early ones were deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to remember that they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested from the list. For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, 2926. BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based. > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] > > > The 1900 series is also menu-driven. To make things more confusing, > their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on > the 2900XL series. > > John > > >>> "Dennis Laganiere" 12/17/01 11:45:33 > AM >>> > I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is > between families of switches. Here's what I've got so far: > > IOS-Based > Cat 1900 series > Cat 2820 series > Cat 2900XL series > > Set-based > Cat5000 series > Cat 6000 series > Cat 6500 series > Cat 2900 > > However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and > uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches. > > Does that sound right? > > --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29416&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
I've got one of the older 2900XL switches that can't be upgraded to the newest 2900XL IOS software. It isn't deeper than any other 2900XL switch I've seen. It also uses a standard console cable - the same that you would use with a Cisco router. My "early" 2900XL is also IOS-based, and not CatOS nor menu-driven. The 2948G layer 3 switch (and 2980 I'd assume as well although I haven't kept on top of switch releases and this one I'm not familiar with) use CatOS commands but these switches are not part of the XL line. And if I recall correctly, the old obsoleted 2901 switch was also CatOS based (and again isn't part of the XL line). The 2900XL series is funky in that although it does use IOS-based commands, they don't follow the traditional commands - so yes Dennis you are correct. Whether you're correct on which commands differ, I can't confirm that at the moment (although I do recall that the trunking and portfast commands are different and irritatingly so). -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bolton, Travis Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] I know that the 2948G and 2980 switches are Cat Based not IOS. -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] Cisco has had two releases of the "2900XL" series. The early ones were deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to remember that they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested from the list. For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, 2926. BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based. > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] > > > The 1900 series is also menu-driven. To make things more confusing, > their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on > the 2900XL series. > > John > > >>> "Dennis Laganiere" 12/17/01 11:45:33 > AM >>> > I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is > between families of switches. Here's what I've got so far: > > IOS-Based > Cat 1900 series > Cat 2820 series > Cat 2900XL series > > Set-based > Cat5000 series > Cat 6000 series > Cat 6500 series > Cat 2900 > > However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and > uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches. > > Does that sound right? > > --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29427&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
By the way Dennis - if you truly want to find the demarcation point, search all of Cisco's old press releases. You'll find the origins of each switch and understand the different OS supported by each. I found it fascinating research when I did it... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Laganiere Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is between families of switches. Here's what I've got so far: IOS-Based Cat 1900 series Cat 2820 series Cat 2900XL series Set-based Cat5000 series Cat 6000 series Cat 6500 series Cat 2900 However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches. Does that sound right? --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29428&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
Here's what I found so far, if anybody wants to fill in a few blanks... Cat 4000/5000/6000 Aquired with Crescendo uses XDI/CatOS Cat 3000 Aquired with Kalpana menu (although I don't know if you can bypass the menu to enter commands) Cat 1900/2800 Aquired with Grand Junction Menu (although I THINK you can bypass the menu to enter commands) Cat 2900XL Cisco Internal development IOS-like Cat 8500 Cisco Internal development No idea what the CLI looks like, but Clark's book seems in indicate that it was developed with the CatOS in mind... --- Dennis -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/17/2001 3:37 PM Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] By the way Dennis - if you truly want to find the demarcation point, search all of Cisco's old press releases. You'll find the origins of each switch and understand the different OS supported by each. I found it fascinating research when I did it... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Laganiere Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is between families of switches. Here's what I've got so far: IOS-Based Cat 1900 series Cat 2820 series Cat 2900XL series Set-based Cat5000 series Cat 6000 series Cat 6500 series Cat 2900 However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches. Does that sound right? --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29436&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
First off, let me say "Shame on me" for not being clear enough. There were indeed other 2900 models that were set based, like a 2-slot Cat5000 but you couldn't change the hardware. I have one of those, it's a Catalyst 2901. But these were before the XL series. As fas as my comment about the newer switches being deeper and using a DB9 console port, I may be confusing those with older 1900s instead of 2900s. Just let me know if I can spread anymore misinformation =) Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29439&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
How does this look? Any corrections would be appreciated... Set-based Switches 7 Catalyst 1200 Series 7 Catalyst 2901 7 Catalyst 2902 7 Catalyst 2926T/F 7 Catalyst 2926GS/L 7 Catalyst 2948G 7 Catalyst 2980G 7 Catalyst 4000 Series 7 Catalyst 5000 Series 7 Catalyst 5500 Series 7 Catalyst 6000 Series 7 Catalyst 6500 Series 7 Catalyst 8500 Series IOS-like Switches 7 Catalyst 2912XL 7 Catalyst 2924XL 7 Catalyst 3550 Series 7 Catalyst 3500XL Series 7 Catalyst 2950 Series Menu Setup 7 Catalyst 1700 Series 7 Catalyst 1900 Series 7 Catalyst 2100 Series 7 Catalyst 2800 Series 7 Catalyst 2820 Series 7 Catalyst 3000 7 Catalyst 3100 7 Catalyst 3200 Switch Routers 7 Catalyst 2948G-L3 7 Catalyst 4840G 7 Catalyst 4908G-L3 Token Ring Switch 7 Catalyst 3900 7 Catalyst 2600 Other 7 Catalyst 6000 Series Switches Running Native IOS Let me know ... -=- Dennis -Original Message- From: Michael Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] First off, let me say "Shame on me" for not being clear enough. There were indeed other 2900 models that were set based, like a 2-slot Cat5000 but you couldn't change the hardware. I have one of those, it's a Catalyst 2901. But these were before the XL series. As fas as my comment about the newer switches being deeper and using a DB9 console port, I may be confusing those with older 1900s instead of 2900s. Just let me know if I can spread anymore misinformation =) Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29444&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
Cat 3000 Menu only. Also sold as the CiscoPro EtherSwitch CPW1601. Cat5K Acquired with Crescendo. Cat 4000 and 6000 series developed after it became Cisco. Looking at a 1996 Cisco Catalog I also find: Cat 2600 Token Ring switch. Cat 1900 Cat 1800 Token Ring switch. Cat 1600 Token Ring switch. Cat 1200 Eight Ethernet ports. RJ-45 or fiber connectors. FDDI uplink modules. > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] > > > Here's what I found so far, if anybody wants to fill in a few > blanks... > > Cat 4000/5000/6000 > Aquired with Crescendo > uses XDI/CatOS > > Cat 3000 > Aquired with Kalpana > menu (although I don't know if you can bypass the menu to > enter commands) > > Cat 1900/2800 > Aquired with Grand Junction > Menu (although I THINK you can bypass the menu to enter commands) > > Cat 2900XL > Cisco Internal development > IOS-like > > Cat 8500 > Cisco Internal development > No idea what the CLI looks like, but Clark's book seems in > indicate that it > was developed with the CatOS in mind... > > --- Dennis > > > -----Original Message- > From: Leigh Anne Chisholm > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12/17/2001 3:37 PM > Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] > > By the way Dennis - if you truly want to find the demarcation point, > search > all of Cisco's old press releases. You'll find the origins of each > switch > and understand the different OS supported by each. I found it > fascinating > research when I did it... > > > -- Leigh Anne > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Dennis Laganiere > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391] > > > I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is > between families of switches. Here's what I've got so far: > > IOS-Based > Cat 1900 series > Cat 2820 series > Cat 2900XL series > > Set-based > Cat5000 series > Cat 6000 series > Cat 6500 series > Cat 2900 > > However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and > uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches. > > Does that sound right? > > --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29450&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
Just a quick note on the 1900s. The old 1900c switches, (size of a pizza box) and db-9 console port were menu driven. the 1924-A standard edition (software upgradeable to Enterprise edition) and enterprise catalyst switches (1924-EN), you can choose IOS from the menu and is just like a 2924xl. They are half the size of the older models, and they have an rj45 console port. (9.00.004) is the latest revision Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29455&t=29391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]