[Cooker] Services

2002-11-01 Thread Biagio Lucini
I am hacking the i8kutils(*) package (as far as I can see, there is no
Mandrake version of it) to make it more Mandrake-friendly and possibly
to generate an rpm.
It comes with SistemV style service script, but for Debian, which uses
different program and conventions for the scripts. Is there a rule on how
to write a service script for Mandrake or should I just try to copy from
another script (e.g. lm_sensors, which does similar things)?
Does drakservices automatically see what is in /etc/init.d or should it be
made aware of new scripts? How do I assign priority to the service? (I
mean, the number that appear in the link to the script from the runlevel
init directory)?

Thanks
Biagio

(*) i8kutils is a package written by a Debian developer and containing
utilities for monitoring fan speed and CPU temperature on several Dell
laptop models. It also allows to use the multimidia buttons.







Re: [Cooker] Re: Mdk 9.0 Recompiling Kernel for Athlon

2002-10-29 Thread Biagio Lucini
On 29 Oct 2002, Juan Quintela wrote:

 - In this particular case, the make clean is the thing that makes the
   diff, but could not be enough:
 
 save .config
 make mrproper
 restore .config if you want.
 make *config
 make bzImage modules
 make modules_install install
 
 should _always_ work, and is the recomended procedure.
 

What does exactly make mrproper? Does it also remove the *.o files?
If yes, where is the advantage of having a make-like build process if you
need *always* to make mrproper? When can you skip it?(*)

Apologies for so many questions!

Biagio

(*): I thought that 2.4 had made obsolete the make mrproper and make clean
part of the chain, but here you are telling me that I have misunderstood
something...








Re: [Cooker] Network script problem in mdk9.0

2002-10-16 Thread Biagio Lucini

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Thomas Backlund wrote:

 From: Biagio Lucini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have a problem with the network scripts in 9.0. In my laptop, I don't
  need the net cards to be started at boot, but at some point I may need to
  switch them on. In 8.2 I did
  
  service network restart eth0
  
 you only need: service network start
 (since it was not started at boot)
 

Thanks for your answer, the card is configured correctly, but since it's a
laptop and I use it both at home and at  work and at home I have a dial-up
connection, to avoid hanging at boot, with drakconnect I have decided not
to start it at boot. As I said, everything was fine with Mandrake 8.2,
where there was a way of restarting the network (I do start the network at
boottime anyway, since I need the lo interface and postfix up in any case)
by passing to the command eth0 as an argument. Now this feature seems not
to be there anymore there in 9.0, and I was just wondering whether this
was meant to be this way (because of an alternative, but in case what is
the alternative?) or a bug (note the ).
 
 Have you configured your network card correctly?
 

Card working if I replace in ifcfg-eth0 boot=no with boot=yes, without any
other intervention.

Any clue anyone?

Thanks
Biagio





[Cooker] Network script problem in mdk9.0

2002-10-15 Thread Biagio Lucini

I have a problem with the network scripts in 9.0. In my laptop, I don't
need the net cards to be started at boot, but at some point I may need to
switch them on. In 8.2 I did

service network restart eth0

and the card happen to work.

In 9.0 the interface does not wake up. Is there anything I don't have
understood or is it a problem? If it is a problem, I can also go deeper
inside the script, but I want to be sure before starting this task.

Thanks
Biagio





Re: [Cooker] Missing pine

2002-10-12 Thread Biagio Lucini
On 12 Oct 2002, Sitsofe Wheeler wrote:

   Isn't nano available with Mandrake 9? It's a GPL'd clone of pico.
   
  
  I have seen it in Texstar's repository, which let me think that it is not
  in contrib... 
 I thought the problem was that pine (the mail program) had been removed
 rather than pico (the editor)...
 
Actually, the problem is that pico is part of pine, and pine sers often
don't mind using pico for quick editing tasks.

Biagio 





[Cooker] Missing pine

2002-10-11 Thread Biagio Lucini

Guys, don't flame at me for what I am going to say: in the jump from 8.2
to 9.0 I am missing pine. I am already re-using it, since I have ported
the source rpm from RH 8.0. Just a little tweaking and it will be ready
for general use. The question is: can I upload it to contrib or the fact
that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of
Mandrake?

Biagio





Re: [Cooker] Missing pine

2002-10-11 Thread Biagio Lucini

On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:

 On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 20:24:13 +0100 (BST)
 Biagio Lucini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  can I upload it to contrib or the fact
  that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of
  Mandrake?
 
 Also it is already available for mandrake in PLF.
 
 
I did not realise that you can find software like pine in PLF. I thought
it was just a site where you can find software that might not completely
compliant with the legislation of some country. Thanks for the
comunication. It has been fun anyway to learn how to mandake-ize an rpm.

Biagio 





Re: [Cooker] Missing pine

2002-10-11 Thread Biagio Lucini

On 11 Oct 2002, Pixel wrote:

 Biagio Lucini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The question is: can I upload it to contrib or the fact
  that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of
  Mandrake?
 
 no you can't. 
 
 The pb is that it's not free software: not DFSG-compliant, and not
 even Open Source [*]
 
 We do accept non-GPLed software (eg: LGPL, BSD...) ;pp
 
 
 [*] squeak is an example of Open Source software not DFSG-compliant
 

Right. But Debian has as far as I know a non-free tree. Why this solution
can't be implemented in Mandrake?

Biagio 





Re: [Cooker] Missing pine

2002-10-11 Thread Biagio Lucini
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Guy McArthur wrote:

 Isn't nano available with Mandrake 9? It's a GPL'd clone of pico.
 

I have seen it in Texstar's repository, which let me think that it is not
in contrib... 

Biagio 





Re: [Cooker] Why ext3fs is a default fs, not ReiserFS?

2002-10-10 Thread Biagio Lucini

On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Aleksander Adamowski wrote:

 In the 9.0 installer, during the Setup filesystem stage, when you 
 create a new partition, by default its filesystem type is tset to ext3fs.
 
 Now I have to tell all the newbie converts that  install Linux to 
 manually change it to ReiserFS, because it is a more advanced filesystem.
 After all, ext3 is just ext2 with a journal strapped-on. ReiserFS is a 
 new vision to filesystem design. And it is faster.
 
 If they just used the defaults, they'd probably be disappointed with 
 Linux because it it slower than my Windows. Yes, ext2 and ext3 are 
 slower than FAT16/32.
 
 So what do you think about changing the default FS type to Reiser in mdk9.1?

You are looking for trouble with this kind of arguments :-)

Seriously, you have given a partial view of what ext3 is. There are
serious reasons to choose it in my view, among which:
a) back compatibility with ext2 (conversion to and fro on the fly and
possibility of mounting clean ext3 partitions as ext2)
b) not that slow for normal use (another thing is the server side, but
you where talking about windows newbies...)
c) three different types of journaling (the reiserfs team is working AFAIK
to similar things, but this is still under implementation)

Mind you: when comparing speed, remember that in ext3 by default a more
time consuming but also more secure journaling is implemented...

Biagio





Re: [Cooker] cooker unfreeze date / features

2002-10-07 Thread Biagio Lucini


On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Götz Waschk wrote:

 Am Montag,  7. Oktober 2002, 17:21:52 Uhr MET, schrieb Florent BERANGER:
  New versions :
  - glibc
 The current version of glibc is 2.2.5, the one in Mandrake 9.0

2.3.0 as for today.

Biagio





Re: [Cooker] expert rpm packager request

2002-10-04 Thread Biagio Lucini

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, [ISO-8859-1] Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:

 Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
 
 I've submitted cvoicecontrol to contribs...
 Now let's see if it get's accepted=)
 ftp://ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming/cvoicecontrol-0.9alpha-1mdk.src.rpm
 

Last time I looked at it it was broken: it required editing of a file
for a parameter that was not set. I did it in sort-of-arbitrary way (you
had to fix a maximum integer that should correspond to a rate). It worked
for me, but I always was unsure if my number was correct. How have you
dealt with this problem? (provided that you had it)

Biagio





[Cooker] Probable ghostscript bug in 9.0

2002-10-04 Thread Biagio Lucini

My dayly bug report, hoping to have better look (get at least one answer, 
should it be even an insult, but on the problem in the subject) this time.

I can't open with gv a class of postscript files: it complains about the 
ghostscript interpreter failing because of problems with Times-Roman. A 
typical file is  

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/biagio.lucini/linux/test_ghos.ps

This one and a few more glitches force me to retain Mandrake 8.2 as 
my primary system and 9.0 just for testing purposes...  

Could somebody try to see whether there is a problem on his system as 
well?

Thanks,
Biagio






Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 = NV/X troubles!

2002-10-04 Thread Biagio Lucini


 On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tim Stoop wrote:
 
  Hi people,
 
  I upgraded my own desktop, a Athlon 1.4GHz, 512MB RAM, NVidia GeForce2 DDR. In
  8.2, I had the NVidia GLX-package and NVidia kernel installed. After upgrade,
  I had a hell of a time getting it all to work. Since the nvidia-driver for X
  isn't shipped with Mandrake, it thought it would use the nv-driver. It
  didn't. But when I changed XFConfig-4 to use the nv driver, X just exited
  with a signal 11. Pretty confusing.
 
  So, after a little playing around, I decided to reboot into that other OS
  and download the NVIDIA-GLX en NVIDIA-kernel packages from MandrakeClub
  (never been happier about being a member!) and after install and changing
  some of the values I changed to get it to work and running XFdrake, it
  finally worked again.
 
 
 A few things that possibly can clarify the issue
 a) The NVidia drivers are proprietary and as such can't be shipped with
 Mandrake (at least with the download edition)
 b) the official nv driver at present does not work with the Geforce2Go
 c) there is a vesion of the nv driver in the Xfree86 CVS that works with
 your card, but I think without 3D acceleration (for more information,
 consult the archive of the linux-dell-laptop mailing list on Yahoo groups)
 d) At the time of rc3 I've made some NVidia rpm's (trivially rebuilds of
 the sources on that system) that TeXstar has uploaded on his site; in a
 while the NVidia official packages for 9.0 should be available from their
 website, but if needed I or someone else could make available their
 packages
 e) possibly we need to setup a contrib site for newbies: as soon as
 Mandrake ships with a new release, non-free drivers with detailed
 instruction on how to use them (for instance with nvidia you have to
 choose runlevel 3 etc.) must appear there.
 
 Biagio
 
 
 





Re: [Cooker] Probable ghostscript bug in 9.0

2002-10-04 Thread Biagio Lucini

Great then! I must have messed up something around with fonts while trying
to import the Windows fonts with drakfont from XP. 

Thank you a lot and cancel my previous message on this subject

Biagio

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Danny Tholen wrote:

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 Danny
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[Cooker] Windowmaker bug (?)

2002-10-03 Thread Biagio Lucini

I am experiencing this problem: I can't leave a terminal open when
quitting WindowMaker and then find it again open at the next login.
Probably this is due to the fact that terminal emulator launcher
(at least as far as xterm and rxvt are concerned) are wrappers.
Essentially, if I start X manually, ctr-alt-x1 shows me a message like

rxvt: bad option -font- (etc.)

In my view, this depends on how commands are executed from the Window
Manager at startup: it can't recognize options. So if I execute 'rxvt -fn
9x15' is ok, but if I leave the terminal open and quit WindowMaker, at my
new login I find the error message in the console

rxvt: bad option 9x15.

I have no clue on what causes this. I hope that this message is clear
enough to allow somebody to understand the origin of the problem.

Thanks
Biagio





Re: [Cooker] devfsd.conf

2002-09-30 Thread Biagio Lucini

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now that 9.0 is out ...
 
 Minor spelling corrections in English version.
 
 
 Initialize not initialise
 Minimize not minimise
 Maximize not maximise
 
 

Did you say English or American? :-)

Biagio





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Biagio Lucini

Am I missing something or there was a contrib directory in the 3rd iso of
8.2? It was disguised as RPM4. Now the new isos seem to have just RPM3 on
the third CD. My question is if there will be new isos with RPM3 and RPM4
on the third CD. Or alternatively, if I rebuild the third iso with RPMs
from contrib, how can I make the installer aware of their existence?

Apologise if this is not the appropriate place to ask it, just following
up this thread...

Biagio

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, tarvid wrote:

 There is always contrib from cooker.
 
 One can tell which packages have garnered attention recently.
 
 A tally of users reporting success with contrib packages would be useful.
 
 Jim Tarvid
 
 On Thursday 26 September 2002 04:40 am, Eric Fernandez wrote:
  Actually the contrib CD has never been downloadable as an iso, but as
  separate packages in a contrib sub-directory in the distribution
  directory (there was one in the 8.2 directory) The question is if it
  will be available in the 9.0 directory ?
 
  Eric
 
  Olivier Thauvin wrote:
  This is a good question, but, did you notice there are contrib on ftp too
   !
  
  What happend with contrib ? Why there are no contrib for 9.0 ? How can
   we'll install contrib for 9.0 in few month, when all will change ?
  
  Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 07:09, Frederic Soulier a écrit :
  Hi
  
  I'm downloading the 3 ISOs (inst, ext  i18n) right now.
  
  One question though, on the following page:
 http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/comparison
  it says the download edition has 4 CDs
  
  The missing ISO on the mirrors is the Supplementatry Applications
  (contrib) one.
  Is it gonna be made available later?
  
  /Fred
 
 
 





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Biagio Lucini

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Leon Brooks wrote:

 I'm happy to throw an RPM collection together from my existing archives but I 
 have (1) nowhere suitable to host it and (2) insufficient time to modify an 
 installer to take it into account (you would *have* to at least boot from it 
 and invoke a modified installer that knew about the extra CD/CDs).
 
 A general mechanism to allow `extension' or `bonus' CDs (including those not 
 from Mandrake, with an appropriate warning about mileage and variation) 
 during an install would be a fine addition to the installer, as would be the 
 ability to present a CD full of updates up front.
 

A modified installer perhaps is a bit of work. But if one could add the
extra CD to the rpmdrake source list, then for upgrading is just matter of

rpm -F *

afterwards, while for installing new things you cold use rpmdrake...

Biagio





[Cooker] Kernel freeze on i8200 (rc3)

2002-09-24 Thread Biagio Lucini

Hi - I wanted to experiment with Mandrake 9.0 rc3 on my dell inspiron 8200
laptop. It seems that the system freezes after a while it has been in use
(I've noted that when the system is frozen the fan is on and a few lights
flash). Hardware fallure is likely to be excluded, since I don't have this
problem with Mandrake 8.2 and it happens too often (3 times in ~9 hours of
overall usage) in 9.0rc3. Any bright idea? Some option in the default
.config of the kernel which can be switched on/off?

Biagio

P.S.: The i8200 needs proprietary NVidia and hsf Conexant drivers. Not to
be excluded that the problem is with the former (I have recompiled the rpm
on 9.0, so possible incompatibilities should be excluded).





Re: [Cooker] VFS: Busy inodes after unmount, self destruct after 5 seconds, have a nice day

2002-09-24 Thread Biagio Lucini

Same experience over here, again never appeared in previous versions

Biagio

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, marrandy wrote:

 Hello.
 
 Never seen this on previous versions, same hardware.
 
 What is this all about ?
 
 Regards...Martin